How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

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    Faust For Science
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    How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

    I see all the strings and not matter what I do all my actions are considered wrong everyone because God pulls their strings like puppets. I am caught in a web of misery not by my making.

    I can sense the strings. I can see s~~~storm after s~~~storm coming with no way to escape, and where I will get the blame no matter what I will do.

    God has denied me health and denied me opportunities, while God rewards all those whom have harmed me.

    It very clear I was born damned to suffer in this life and the next. And at this point sanity is almost gone.

    That is what happens when everyone else blames me for all the sins of the world.

    It is a hard thing to accept that free will is a lie and God will damn me to Hell to suffer for all eternity while God also rewards those whom have harmed me with paradise in Heaven for eternity.

    After neither four decades of this living Hell, I would just rather get it over with and go to the real Hell and get my real suffering started.

    God is evil and anyone whom believes otherwise is a fool.

    No joy, only misery. No happiness, only pain. No compassion, only malice and distrust.

    #785692
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    Why Am I So Miserable If This is the Lord’s Will?

    Enjoy your reading without forgetting to humble yourself, brother.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #785700
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    Faust For Science
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    Why Am I So Miserable If This is the Lord’s Will?

    Enjoy your reading without forgetting to humble yourself, brother.

    It is just my misery, but the reward of those whom harm me.

    This is not a one off event. Dozens and dozens of people have intentionally harmed me and were rewards for their cruelty towards me.

    #785703
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    JustAnotherGuy
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    Your god’s not real. There’s no grand designer pulling strings or making a path for you. The only thing that matters is what you choose to do with your own time. Most things that happen to you are a result of processes started by someone else. The only thing you can really control is how you react to a world that is, at best, completely indifferent to your existence.

    I recommend reading some Aurelias. Stoicism can probably help you.

    Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
    “Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

    #785731
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    Autolite
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    How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

    I see all the strings and not matter what I do all my actions are considered wrong everyone because God pulls their strings like puppets. I am caught in a web of misery not by my making.

    You’re getting yourself all worked-up over bulls~~~! A lot of things really p~~~ me off about Theism and this s~~~ is just one of those things.

    My father would pull this same s~~~ too and wonder what-ever it was that he did to deserve such misery from God! The bottom line is that THERE IS NO GOD either rewarding or punishing people!

    Grow a brain and acknowledge reality or continue tying your stomach up in knots trying to figure out why an imaginary God is punishing you. It’s your f~~~ing call… 😡

    #785738
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    This is not a one off event. Dozens and dozens of people have intentionally harmed me and were rewards for their cruelty towards me

    I understand. You’re not the only one to whom that has happened.
    I can’t reason it all away without knowing you well.
    Only you know what’s going on with you, all I can do is open a door for your understanding and let your neurons do the rest.

    All I know is that there is a way for each of us to find peace amidst adversity and that way isn’t the same for everyone since we’re were not created with a cookie cutter.
    But blaming God isn’t going to lead you anywhere but down into bitterness and self-destruction.
    You won’t find your answers by shaking your fist at your Creator.
    Search earnestly and with humility and it will be shown to you.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #785743
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    Your god’s not real. There’s no grand designer pulling strings or making a path for you. The only thing that matters is what you choose to do with your own time. Most things that happen to you are a result of processes started by someone else. The only thing you can really control is how you react to a world that is, at best, completely indifferent to your existence.

    I recommend reading some Aurelias. Stoicism can probably help you.

    Have you looked at probabilities. Dice games. Etc.

    The number of results reach point that one can guess the results from a chart.

    Though, when one tries different tactics but come to the same out come with different people, different situations, over the course of thousands of such situations, all with almost the exact same results, something is wrong with the picture.

    Einstein stated that do the same experiment over and over again an expecting different results was insanity.

    Well, what you call it went you have a different experiment every time and you always get the same results.

    There is a guiding hand behind the scenes causing my misery. One that rigged the game to only cause me misery.

    #785744
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    Autolite
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    I can’t reason it all away without knowing you well.

    “God works in mysterious ways”

    Apparently you forgot the standard Theist bulls~~~ cop-out when you can’t come up with a rational answer…

    #785745
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    Faust For Science
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    I understand. You’re not the only one to whom that has happened.

    I see the truth.

    Read the Old Testament. God’s anointed are rewarded by God and the commoners are made to suffer by God.

    God’s modern anointed are the elitists send by God to commit every act of cruelty imaginable towards the rest of humanity. The elitists will go to Heaven for doing God’s wicked will, only everyone else goes to Hell because enjoys bringing suffering to the innocent.

    I am just one of the few whom realize this before death.

    Might as well embrace the pain, because that is all that will ever be for us. Suffer, misery, agony.

    Joy, happiness, compassion as states of being only allowed to be experienced by God’s sadistic chosen ones.

    Such truths makes one want to become a satanist, or at the very least a communist.

    #785753
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    JustAnotherGuy
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    The bottom line is that THERE IS NO GOD either rewarding or punishing people!

    Bingo. “God” is just you, disassociating from yourself. That’s why there are tens of thousands of deities in history, and equally as many denominations in just the Abrahamic traditions. It’s a way of passing the buck and saying “I don’t understand this therefore magic.”

    Einstein stated that do the same experiment over and over again an expecting different results was insanity.

    No he didn’t. That is a misattribution.

    Well, what you call it went you have a different experiment every time and you always get the same results.

    There is a guiding hand behind the scenes causing my misery. One that rigged the game to only cause me misery.

    The phrase you are looking for is “emergent complexity.” You start with simple processes and allow them to repeat. The results are inserted back into the system as feedback. As the system iterates, complexity naturally emerges. We see this in things ranging from the development of galaxies to the growth and death of populations.

    Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
    “Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

    #785770
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    Vertex
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    For what it’s worth, I believe in science. Precision and Mathematics.
    Life is not fair, some are born rich, some are born in poverty. You ask why “god” lets this happen to you, why “god” rewards those who do wrong, and punishes you? It’s not god, it’s society.

    We live in a time in which what is bad is seen as good and vice versa. At the end of the day, quality of life is like MGTOW knowledge, the tools are there, you just have to use them.

    I personally believe MGTOW + Religion will create conflict with certain MGTOW ideology, thus making it counterproductive.

    If we are men going their own way, you can’t live by a book telling you what to do and what not to do.

    That’s my 2 cents

    You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

    #785774
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    Faust For Science
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    The phrase you are looking for is “emergent complexity.” You start with simple processes and allow them to repeat. The results are inserted back into the system as feedback. As the system iterates, complexity naturally emerges. We see this in things ranging from the development of galaxies to the growth and death of populations.

    You claim there is not God, so what has happened to me must be dumb luck.

    I point out the odds would be far better for me if it was dumb luck, which the odds skewing so far against me show it is not just dumb luck.

    I find it interesting the upper level theories of science with theories on artificial reality are running head long into creationism beliefs from the opposite direction.

    But that is an issue for another time.

    The first of that matter is how to cope with an God making one’s life hell for no other reason just for fun.

    The only reason I do not kill myself is those around me made it clear they would ignore more final wishes and give me a traditional “christian funeral” as the final insult to my life. While they have arranged for to have funerals that are not so traditional. The hypocrisy is behind the disgust.

    They get to harm me all they want, but even a statement in a tied tone of voice by me gets me no end of suffering.

    I dream of a nuclear war happens so all those whom harmed me suffer and I will die in a way that I will not have to worry about that final insult.

    #785775
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    Faust For Science
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    Life is not fair,

    There is a difference between not being fair and being actively cruel.

    #785778
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    Arcturis
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    I am caught in a web of misery not by my making.

    This might sounds harsh…but everything in your life is a result of YOUR actions and YOUR decisions.

    Do not blame YOUR circumstances on other people / things.

    Unfortunately, bad things DO HAPPEN to good people BUT your life is a result of all the tiny choices you make each day.

    Thankfully, you can change it whenever you want.

    Start now Faust.

    Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT
    #785781
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    Zarathustra
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    For what is worth I am 43 years old and spent much of my life in misery. Parents abandoned me, I got s~~~ on by women over and over again and was basically a doormat to anyone who needed to wipe his feet. I have Crohns disease and with no friends or family to help I have struggled to just hold on to a job and support myself. Many is the day I wanted to end it all but I never did because of a stoic outlook on life, not expecting it to be pleasant, but taking strength and pride in my ability to persevere despite all the misery.

    You know what? It was worth it. Just a few years ago I started enjoying life more, it wasn’t just one thing but lots of little things I caused to happen and also random pieces of luck that came my way.

    Now after 35+ years of depression I see the light at the end of the tunnel and genuine happiness and comfort.

    I don’t know how old you are or how long you have felt this way but if I can stick it out for 3 and a half decades so can you. Life ebbs and flows it might be bad a long while but it always evens out if you put in the effort and keep trying.

    I know this sounds cliche, maudlin, etc.. but it is the real deal.

    And I don’t even believe in a God or any ultimate meaning. I just create my own meaning and take comfort in that… even when I am struggling.

    I hope that helps.

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    SweetDaddyDom420
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    I too believe that God exists, but that he is evil. However, I see God as more of a “system” rather than an intellectual being. I am going to spin off and start a new thread on this subject.

    #785789
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    The man in the mountain
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    How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

    I see all the strings and not matter what I do all my actions are considered wrong everyone because God pulls their strings like puppets. I am caught in a web of misery not by my making.

    I can sense the strings. I can see s~~~storm after s~~~storm coming with no way to escape, and where I will get the blame no matter what I will do.

    God has denied me health and denied me opportunities, while God rewards all those whom have harmed me.

    It very clear I was born damned to suffer in this life and the next. And at this point sanity is almost gone.

    That is what happens when everyone else blames me for all the sins of the world.

    It is a hard thing to accept that free will is a lie and God will damn me to Hell to suffer for all eternity while God also rewards those whom have harmed me with paradise in Heaven for eternity.

    After neither four decades of this living Hell, I would just rather get it over with and go to the real Hell and get my real suffering started.

    God is evil and anyone whom believes otherwise is a fool.

    No joy, only misery. No happiness, only pain. No compassion, only malice and distrust.

    I felt the exact same way, for a very long time brother, even before i knew of MGTOW everything i tried to do either went up in smokes or saw people leaving my life in droves, it can’t be helped you just have to look out for yourself and work on your own inner happiness, find hobbies that you may like, sometimes focusing too much on the real s~~~ can make one become too detach to the point you no longer give a s~~~, you should be that way but not too fast or it could be detrimental to your health and mental well being.

    Have a beer on me, have a laugh, we all get to see the end of this s~~~ show, we get to see the women become pigs and such pigs become fatter and full with tattoos, we can laugh it off as the plantation burns down into a crisp.

    #785796
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    How do you cope when God brings you nothing but misery?

    I see all the strings and not matter what I do all my actions are considered wrong everyone because God pulls their strings like puppets. I am caught in a web of misery not by my making.

    I can sense the strings. I can see s~~~storm after s~~~storm coming with no way to escape, and where I will get the blame no matter what I will do.

    God has denied me health and denied me opportunities, while God rewards all those whom have harmed me.

    It very clear I was born damned to suffer in this life and the next. And at this point sanity is almost gone.

    That is what happens when everyone else blames me for all the sins of the world.

    It is a hard thing to accept that free will is a lie and God will damn me to Hell to suffer for all eternity while God also rewards those whom have harmed me with paradise in Heaven for eternity.

    After neither four decades of this living Hell, I would just rather get it over with and go to the real Hell and get my real suffering started.

    God is evil and anyone whom believes otherwise is a fool.

    No joy, only misery. No happiness, only pain. No compassion, only malice and distrust.

    No offense, but you sound like a bitching little chick who blames everyone else for their problems.

    We all despise women for this inborn trait of theirs, to instinctively blame others for their own problems and negative consequences, and when things don’t go the way they want them to.

    That is what you sound like.

    Two people can witness the same event, and for one, it brings them closer to God, and the other, pushes them away from God.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #785800
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    Anonymous
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    We dont all get dealt the same hand in life.

    Life is about how you deal with adveresty.

    How do you think your doing, is the question.

    #785802
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    Untamed
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    I can’t reason it all away without knowing you well.

    “God works in mysterious ways”

    Apparently you forgot the standard Theist bulls~~~ cop-out when you can’t come up with a rational answer…

    I’m not here to debate anyone on deity.
    I know what I believe in and I know why. It’s good enough for me. I’m happy with the answers I found throughout my life.
    You… Well, I don’t give a s~~~ what you think.

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

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