How bad has the freaking out over the BBC documentary gotten?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am seeing some brawling going on YouTube due to the BBC report coming up, with major YouTubers scared of what the BBC report will do, and it looks like, in the case of Stardusk, to end up wanting to try to clean up YouTube:

And then there is the White Flour response to it.

Anyone know what is going on?  It seems with Neo Unplugged gone also (and the other channel gone), there is much on edge.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

I’m suffering BBC rage not red pill.

This was nothing but a ‘fit up’ by so called journalists ….. which they’re not …. just adolescent fresh out of uni shock mag fools.

However, they are a powerful media outlet …. kids with guns.

What this is doing is causing mgtow to look at themselves and how they are viewed by society.

I know I’ve been doing exactly that. There are aspects of myself that I could tone down …… my potty mouth ☺ ….. but that’s if I want the outside world to ‘like me’.

I get passionate when seeing guys being eviscerated or coming here beaten and suicidal.

So I thought ….. why am I here … and after much soul searching … I’m here for ‘us’ …. not the BBC or other media.

I know they will come here and ‘use’ our discussions to tell untruths …. so I will tone down as much as I can ….. but when I see/here a guy in trouble ….. they are my first priority…… NOTHING ELSE.

I think this BBC crap is making mgtow reflect and maybe realise some harsh truths within.

This is nothing to do with political distortions ….. more personal journeys.

I’m not going anywhere …. just my own way ….. regardless of outcomes of society.

 

[Anonymous 25]

I agree with Stardusk, mgtow should be a search for information and knowledge to better understand our own nature and that of women. It is a search for an ecology of mind. It’s not red pill rage.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Leftists can not stand the idea that there is anyone not under their control. (It is a Freudian thing, daddy issues I believe.) Journalists are leftists. Therefore, journalists can not stand the idea that any man would go his own way. This is what their hamster wheels spinning.

OK, so what? Why should anyone care what they think? Why should anyone care what they want us to do? Why should I mold my behavior to please some office drone in London?

If someone on YouTube is in a tizzy over it, so what? The sun will rise tomorrow just like it always did.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BestoftherestParticipant 285]

As far as Neo and Truth going dark, I do not know if its related to the BBC. The white flour response is funny as hell.

The way the media will portray this in the most negative light. Throw in that women will be “offended.” Mix in a bunch of p~~~ed of blue pills, who will only get more upset that women are offended and this will be a cluster F. Just a matter of how F’d up this will get. I wouldn’t be supervised if mgtow gets associated with ISIS and climate change deniers all at once.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

[BestoftherestParticipant 285]

Anonymous wrote:

I agree with Stardusk, mgtow should be a search for information and knowledge to better understand our own nature and that of women. It is a search for an ecology of mind. It’s not red pill rage.

I picked up on that too, but mgtow is still a young ideal. Red pill rage is one of the primary means many men will encounter while actualizing mgtow or depression like Stardusk said, with Red pill rage being the more common occurrence. So we have a young ideal and most of its members are new, the math is simple we’re going to have a large amount of red pill rage. Its just a matter of how long each man needs, or better yet what resources a man needs to make the transition as fast and as smooth as possible.

"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
Abraham Lincoln

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

 

According to this video, the BBC are doing a series on extremist groups, and have asked for soundbites from more angry/red-pill rage MGTOW so that they can paint the MGTOW ‘movement’ as a woman-hating Neo-Nazi group.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

ILiveAgain wrote:

why am I here … and after much soul searching … I’m here for ‘us’ …. not the BBC or other media.

Oh, same here. I would consider myself quite beyond the rage stage by now and rather plain and simply try to survive by myself (and in that part of which a spouse or classic “partner” or relationship frankly and simply wouldn’t if ever fit in with my personal endeavors in that respect). But I am fully aware of the dilemma that quite a few of us would be facing in case the documentary in question might rear its real ugly head towards a few of us, who merely trying to make a living (just like pretty much everybody currently is and in whichever way…) and still being at least somewhat depending on their own networks for the sake of getting jobs and/or at least occasional job assignments (ie. if freelancing). So on the one hand surely there is a bit of a double edged sword feel to the whole issue at hand, but then on the other hand in time the whole fuzz about it might well wane off again at some point…   … so in a nutshell to be a bit weary, tread careful enough and rather quietly gather lots of information from loads of very various sources, whilst keeping an overall low profile to some extend in public (like most of us do anyway and like thinking ape suggested in his video) is perhaps arguably the wisest possible chosen path, who knows…

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

boycott bbc then.  i already boycott cbc because their website is too feminist.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

You mean a media that is 99+% blue pill would be dishonest, follow the feminist/gynocentric way of thinking and paint us in a bad light?
Who would have thought, really?

On a more serious note, this just goes to show how bluepills and society as a whole is scared of mgtow.
I’ll look at them like I’d look at a bunch of retarded kids who point fingers without even understanding what they’re doing.

Because saying that s~~~ stinks is hate nowadays, it seems.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[OldscoundrellParticipant 412]

I am red pill raging right now. But it is energy for betterment of myself and pushing through my goals.

I used to handle it much different. With lots of booze and using different women.

I thank this philosophy/mindset for a more productive and happier by the day way to live.

My father had an expression that is fitting.

“F~~~ EM if they can’t take a joke”

Because ultimately, the joke is on them. This lifestyle choice is going to spread like a fkn wildfire among men.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Does anyone even watch the BBC any more though? Anyone who matters I mean?

The people MGTOW need to reach are young men between 18 and 35 who might be susceptible to falling for the marriage trap. They are the ones who need to know that there is nothing wrong with refusing marriage, refusing cohabitation, refusing sperm donation, refusing to be a walking wallet. And unless I’m mistaken they don’t watch the BBC.

Especially not since the BBC f~~~ed Top Gear.

And we don’t even really need to reach out to them. They learn well enough on their own that things are not the way they’ve been told, and then they seek MGTOW out. Most MGTOW are MGTOW long before they ever hear of MGTOW.

[Anonymous 5]

Let them say whatever the f~~~ those mangina c~~~s want. This place and way of life has made me a million times happier than any c~~~ could.

MGTOW saved my life and I am forever grateful.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

You can’t kill an idea. Especially an idea that depends upon inaction.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am less concerned about the BBC and more concerned about the reaction to the BBC.  It seems that the BBC going about gave Stardusk an excuse to go off on Sandman for “soundbitism” because Sandman isn’t doing videos as long as Stardusk, and isn’t taking the calm, intellectual approach.  it is like now, due to concerns about the BBC, and other things afoot, there is a desire to apply standards and take shots at rivals.  It is that bit I am concerned about.  I can agree with a bunch of what Stardusk said, but I couldn’t give a thumb’s up to his video, because he was taking shots all over, and implying that he was one of the guardians of the right way to do MGTOW.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant 1489]

I think it is incredibly important to note that the BBC has already failed in this endeavour.  They’ve not remotely grasped the concept of MGTOW.

They may as well have gone off on the quest to produce a video entitled “Many People Doing Their Own Thing While Not Bowing To Feminist Constructs: How Can We Make Them Look Bad?”

Were they to be successful, with this site alone, they would have had to produce over ten-thousand documentaries, each with the title of one of our monikers.

No man here is the same as another.  The BBC so desperately wants to fit us into a box.  This is so unachievable that they’ve had to send people here in disguise to fabricate hate speech and violent diatribes (since neither are allowed) so that they can make their own box  in which to put us.  If that is not sad, pathetic, and proof of the evils which they represent, I don’t know what is.

Attempting to produce a documentary who’s goal is to somehow insinuate that free-thinking men who are good citizens are in some way evil because we refuse to contribute to a system which has been proven to be far worse than any imagined “Patriarchy”?  It not only shows the utter irresponsibility that has become commonplace in mainstream media, but it shows that they are anything but “objective”.  They have immediately bowed to the predominant cultural and political demands that are the propaganda of feminism, rather than explore and investigate phenomenon which might lie outside of what this indoctrinated culture would have them believe.

By not asking themselves questions as to whether or not we might well have a valid point, and might be the victims of being silenced in a free society, they are in fact deciding beforehand that those who attempt to oppress us are already correct.

That is not journalism, and it most certainly isn’t investigative.

They are simply proving just how utterly inept they are at carrying out their own profession, and in preserving the values, morals and responsibilities which are meant to be inherent in “Free Press”.

Thank you, BBC.  You’ve proven what we, as MGTOW already know.  You are the puppet of a regime.

 

[AFTParticipant 2722]

A very large part of MY MGHOW, is not giving a damn about others opinions.  I don’t care about shaming tactics, from woman, gynocracy nor the BBC.  MGTOW can’t be defined beyond staying unattached.  Simply protecting my freedom, and acting on my own self interest.

I’ve never listened to any of Stardusk’s content, but I didn’t like the one linked above.  Shaming, men that don’t conform to his notion of “MGTOW” we should be all trying to understand.

I’m sorry but there just comes a point where you no longer care to understand.  What for?  I didn’t ask to get put in the middle of a misandry based gynocrasy, and I’m sure as hell not interested in understanding it.

Red pill rage comes from the awareness of injustice.  Red pill rage / depression is overcome by letting go.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Anonymous 29]

I do not think we should worry so much about “freaking out about the BBC documentary”,  but rather what MGTOW movement and community is going to do as far as its survival and legitimate being  in wider  of society. How and why MGTOW started  is no longer relevant,  but what is relevant is it’s future survival,  legitimacy and what it stands for.

There is a lot of discussion going on among MGTOW’s  about many things and rightly so, but passion,  anger and going your own way will only go so far.

Unity is needed, . . .  meaning that we have some   sort of universal code of conduct for all MGTOW’s to follow, rather than to descend into slinging filth like the potty mouth bitches and their puss nuts mangina allies.

MGTOW needs to be unified or else we will be exposed to ridicule or be disenfranchised from public opinion and finally a quiet death without so much of a whimper.  I hate saying it but we do not have all the time in the world.  We have maybe 10 to 15 years, and if we are not solid  the public will not give MGTOW philosophy any credit.

 

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW movement

MGTOW is not a movement.

MGTOW is a phenomenon.

some sort of universal code of conduct for all MGTOW’s to follow,

Already covered: No marriage. No cohabitation. No sperm donation.

Which is pretty much the practical application of what MGTOW means right there. Because MGTOW is a description of a set of behaviors (or lack thereof) not a prescription for behaviors to follow.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

How does one have “unity” in something that has men going their own way?  Each man is different, has different opinions and views that will disagree with other men.  Each man needs different things, and will network with different people to get what he needs.  Some MGTOW can have closer relationships with women than others.  But to have unity?  I don’t see it happening.  If one wants unity, go to MRAs.  What one can have, as I see it, is not trying to be intentionally disagreeable, and some coordinating.  And there isn’t going to be any uniformed code of conduct either.  There can be some shared wisdom, on what works and what doesn’t.  But, MGTOW as some sort of unified brotherhood, I don’t see happening.  It is each man for himself pretty much, with any extra help he gets, being a bonus.

In regards to what MGTOW is, it is a social phenomenon and a label for what some men are doing/living.  There are schools of thoughts in it, but it isn’t a unified school of philosophy.  I think any man going around MGTOW expecting it to be some sort of philosophy or anything unified, and looking to get meaning out of it, will get disappointed.

If one wants to end up saying what MGTOW is, it is not marrying and also doing your own thing.  Of course, in all this, there are consequences with doing your own thing, for not only yourself, but others under the MGTOW label.

What I can say is that, as MGTOW sort things out, it is possible to find answers for how to deal with Internet culture.  In a wide range of diversity, it is possible that finding out how to not blow things up, would be of value to civilization.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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