Help! Please answer my questions.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Yeah, I’m 46… got the vasectomy sixteen years ago and never looked back. I highly recommend it for all MGTOW.

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

“Here is a list of issues which I recognized in the original book to be men’s most significant disadvantages compared to women.
1. Men are conscripted; women are not.

2. Men are sent to fight in wars; women are not.

3. Men retire later than women (even though, due to their lower life-expectancy,
they should have the right to have the right to retire earlier).

4. Men have almost no influence over their reproduction (for males, there is neither
a pill nor abortion – they can only get the children women want them to have).

5. Men support women; women never, or only temporarily, support men.

6. Men work all their lives; women work only temporarily or not at all.

7. Even though men work all their lives, and women work only temporarily or not at
all, on average, men are poorer than women.

8. Men only `borrow’ their children; woman can keep them (as men work all their
lives and women do not, men are automatically robbed of their children in cases of separation – with the reasoning that they have to work).”

From the book “The Manipulated Man” written more then 35 years ago by Esther Vilar

Here my advice to you.  Only thing that matter is your own personal happiness and contentment.  You can not get personal happiness and contentment from any one else but from within yourself.

If you try to fit in to so called normal society then you as a man have become a MAN SLAVE TO WOMEN RUN GOVERNMENT.  Take it from me, I have lost 80% of all my wealth in my divorce.  Read my shocking intro story in this forum so you understand how bad it is for a man who want’s fit into this so called “Normal Society”.  Here is one simple question to you, DO YOU WANT TO BE A SLAVE AND GIVE AWAY ALL YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO SOME WOMEN BECAUSE SHE GIVES YOU SEX?  If you really want sex pay for it but never live with a women or get married.  I have done it.

I lived with my ex wife for 12 years.  I had to spend $12,000 out of my $20,000 a month business profits just to get some pussy and keep her happy with big house, expensive three cars, other expensive things.  At the end I lost my business, home, money in the divorce.

You are young, please learn from a 38 year old man.  PLEASE DON’T TRY TO FIT IN TO A WOMEN DOMINATED GOVERNMENT SOCIAL SYSTEM WHERE YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER MAN SLAVE.  If you care about your personal freedom, happiness, contentment, peace and financial security then keep every thing you earn and value away from women forever.

Your only responsibility is to keep your self, healthy, happy, wealthy with complete freedom.  Women are nothing but a expensive liability for you.  If you really want sex, just pay for it in a safe way but don’t get involved with women(if you do you will lose every time).

It’s like this, NORMAL SOCIETY IS A RIGGED CASINO WHERE EVEY MAN WHO ENTERS LOSES ALL TIS MONEY, ZERO CHANGE OF WINNING BECAUSE GAME IS PERFECTLY RIGGED, YOU CAN NOT WIN.  I TRIED TO WIN DURING MY DIVORCE, I LOST 80% OF EVERY THING I OWNED.

You don’t need woman to be happy and content in life(WOMEN ARE VERY NEEDY AND SUCK ALL YOUR ENERGY/MONEY OUT OF YOU).

You don’t need to be a slave in so called “normal society” created my women to benefit only women.  Live your own life, away from a rigged woman’s world.  Create your own world where you are the king, no woman ever touch you and take any thing from you.  Be your own boss, don’t let a any woman become your boss my using their pussy on you.  If you want pussy so bad, just pay for it and let her leave right after.  Don’t pay with fire, you will get burned.   I got burned so bad I almost committed suicide.  I care about my brother, learn from my mistakes, please don’t try to fit in to a box crated my women to only benefit women.  Your fellow brothers are all here to help you not make the same mistakes, but if you choose then we will wait for your return to still help you heal.  I did the best I can to warn you, choice is your.  I wish you make the right choice, don’t deal with women, if you have to just pay for it, don’t live with them and never ever get married.  I wish you great free happy life ahead.  I am here if you want to reach out. Good luck, RayBandaku.

 

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

Well first of all, I would like to thank all the posters especially BrainPilot for taking the time out to offer me help. You know, its really hard for me at accept that women ARE like that and it just isn’t my delusion. I know I’m right in my heart, but…. umm…. Let’s just say I’m handcuffed.

I think there’s absolutely no need to get emotionally involved with the creature that is the woman. It would be stupid, considering what she will put me through just for sex. I’m much (100x) happier when I’m homosocial. Conversations with girls NEVER end well. It’s ridiculous, actually. I still have a lot of remnants of the blue pill mindset unfortunately, are there any red pill movies or shows I could watch? I’ve found that they really help. What about books? I’m trying really hard to perfect THE ONLY WINNING MOVE.

Is there any way to avoid false rape accusations? (I’m going to a university in a foreign gyno-country this month and plan to f~~~ lots of bitches).

 

Another VERY important question I want to ask is how to react to women’s bulls~~~. This includes when they say

1. You’re bitter

2. You’re a misogynist

3. You must be lonely

4. I bet you can’t get a girlfriend or even a date

5. You must be a virgin

6. What happened in your past? What did this to you? (to which my answer is “women happened” lol)

 

Marriage isn’t an option for me unless the laws change. Which bring me to my next question: When will it all end? In our lifetime will we ever get to see the feminists defeated and the manginas/whiteknights become a minority of the male population again? Most guys agree with anti-feminism but they’ve been brainwashed in other things so they are still a part of gynocentric culture.

 

The red pill is scary, but probably the most exciting thing in my life.

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

EDIT: double post, sorry

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

BlueToRed said “You know, its really hard for me at accept that women ARE like that and it just isn’t my delusion. I know I’m right in my heart, but…. umm…. Let’s just say I’m handcuffed.”

You say you are handcuffed.  I am going to give you some bad news(get ready for some hard times ahead with women if you choose to go this route).  Looks like you like being handcuffed, why else would you say “Let’s just say I’m handcuffed”.  Who is handcuffing you?  You are mentally handcuffing yourself.  You are young, so I am guessing you want to learn the handcuffed way, that’s your own choice and no one can stop you from being handcuffed.  We will be here after you are done getting handcuffed.  Enjoy your great adventure with women.  Let us know your adventure stories after you experience them women.  Some times you have to learn the hard way on our own terms.  Good luck.

[Anonymous 0]

Just read this:

/shaming-tactics/

CHEERS!!!

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

Dear Ray,

Thanks for your reply! I had started commenting before your post was made. I’m sorry to hear that you had such a horrible experience. Wow. I sure as hell don’t want to end up like that and so obviously marriage isn’t an option for me. Though I will consider marrying Southern and Eastern European women…. or is that a mistake too? Do you really think that its possible to be happy living outside the mainstream society and without women? Cuz that sure seems scary as hell. I want pussy really badly because my hormones are raging. By paying for it do you mean pay a professional prostitute or the average woman (hoe)?

I don’t want to be handcuffed, I hate it but I feel like there’s no other choice so I “submit”. I’m burning from the inside when this happens though.

Thanks a lot for your support!

 

@Hollowmile, that’s an amazing collection of women’s bulls~~~. Nobel Prize worthy! But most of those responses are inadequate imo. I was hoping that I could learn some powerful responses. That have a strong counter-effect you know? hmmm…….

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

EDIT – decided it needs a new thread. Thanks again!

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

BluetoRed,
Unless some girl has you chained up in a basement somewhere, you have volunteered to be handcuffed…probably in the hope that it will get you some sex. I volunteered for all sorts of bulls~~~ when I was your age. Male’s sex drive at your age is stronger than it will ever be, and women your age look better than they will ever look. Their demands are higher than they will ever be, and your ability to meet them is lower than it will ever be. This is the most comprised situation you will ever be in. Don’t make a decision to make these circumstances permanent. If you can avoid getting married, getting a girl pregnant, or getting charged w rape for a few more years, things will start to change. If you can avoid these things for about 10 more years, things will change a lot.

For right now, read your own post. You said you see no reason to be emotionally involved with women, then you ask how to respond to 6 different statements which are ALL invitations to get emotionally involved with women. If they can insult you, and make you mad, and you respond, they’ve just proven that what they think and say matters to you. They’ve proven that you care enough about what they think and say that you can be made to get mad, and change your behavior to respond to it. You’ve shown them that they can control how you feel, how you speak and how you act. That’s only possible if you care what they think. If you respond at all, you’re already involved.

Women who say this crap don’t give a s~~~ if you’re a virgin, or bitter, or a misogynist. You can be sure that they are not saying this things because they have any intent of helping you with them …especially #5. They are probing for a response to assess their own value to you. They’re checking to see how involved you are. Keymaster calls this a s~~~ test.

Let me explain it another way: You’re walking down a road past a farm. On the side of the road there is a fence and on the other side of the fence there is a pig standing knee deep in s~~~ and mud and slime. Pigs like s~~~ and mud and slime and will live in it happily for their whole lives. You know this about pigs. The pig invites you to jump the fence and have a mud wrestling contest. You decline. The pig gets irritated and calls you a f~~, a pussy and a candy ass and says you must have a little dick and crappy wrestling skills if you won’t jump the fence and get into a mud wrestling contest right f~~~ing now…!

The pig is not very big and doesn’t look very strong. You’re young and strong and you’ve won wrestling contests before. You know you can probably kick this pig’s ass. The more p~~~ed off you get, the more you’re thinking about jumping that fence. Now, at about this time, there are a half dozen older, wiser veteran pig farmers who show up and tell you, “Better for you if you don’t jump that fence, son…”. But that God-damned pig just will not shut the f~~~ up…!

Now, about a half an hour later, one of the farmers tells you about a quote by a famous American author and philosopher named Mark Twain, who once said, “You should not wrestle in the mud with a pig, because neither of you will win, but after a while you’ll realize that the pig is enjoying it…”. But sadly by then, it’s too late.

By the time a half hour has passed, you’re already covered in s~~~ and mud and slime from head to toe. You look terrible and smell worse, and you can hear the pig, and several other pigs laughing their asses off. You’ve now learned that pigs who are covered in mud and s~~~ and slime are much more slippery and harder to hang on to than you thought. The farmers shake their heads, help you back over the fence and try to help you to wash off that God-awful smell of pig s~~~ that you are now covered in.

A week later, you’re driving down the freeway in your car. You look over and see a sign on the side of the road. At the bottom of the sign post, there is a pig standing knee deep in mud and s~~~. The sign says, “You’re a misogynist”.

What do you do?

My question to you now is this: Do you want to be the wrestler in this story? Or do you want to be the farmer?

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

LOL

@brainpilot

No, I would most certainly not want to be the pig or the wrestler!!! XD How can I avoid getting charged with rape for 10 years? Its a huge timespan and I want to live it to the fullest without getting into s~~~ you know?

 

You’re completely right that they’re testing your emotional involvement and not actually giving a s~~~. But I find myself involved somehow… I dunno… It’s hard to explain… they make you feel like there isn’t anything else you know? Like there isn’t much else to life and that the issue they’re discussing is of utmost importance… something like that… shaming has such an effect… and its not just with women, I have this problem with manipulative/shaming guys too. I guess I need to work on character development, right?

 

Btw do you believe in NAWALT? Because I see black, asian, even latino women… and they are much, much worse than western girls (especially scandinavian) who are far more straightforward. tbh I really wanna believe in NAWALT *sigh*

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Perhaps the OP completely missed “The Catalogue of Shaming Tactics” on the front end of our website.

It was actually THE VERY FIRST post we created here…. and we did to for a REASON.
/shaming-tactics/

Take a stroll through the front end and archives. We were very selective abut what fundamental things we added first. By the time you get through our archives you will confidently be able to graduate from MGTOW University with f~~~ing honors.

Study that s~~~. I’m serious. Understanding “The Catalogue of Shaming Tactics” is like a bitch shield and a light-sabre rolled into one.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 0]

Hi Keymaster,

I thought that I found it here first but couldn’t find it yet, so I gave the external link.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

No problem !!! By all means Help a brother out ANY WAY YOU CAN! Happy New Year!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

To BlueToRed

I looks like you believe one type of girl(from scandinavian) is better then Latino, black or Asian.  Let me be as clear as I can be.  Human’s have be evolving for about 7 million year’s.  Male and female differences have been around for 7 million year’s.  Female’s have one mission to seek resources from a male, they do this my looking good, shame you, lie, cheat, do what ever it takes to get resources from a male.  This is in their DNA code.  There’s no type of women out there that would not take advantage of you.  Women need to feel special, Women are needy, selfish, Women what your money, time, energy so they don’t have to do any thing but give you sex in return.  Women use sex to get all they can get from men. I have been with my ex wife for 12 years, I know what I am talking about.  Women are the same every where because it’s in their DNA code.  Don’t be fooled by women.

Be smart about this.  Don’t try to pick and choose one type of women over another.  Evidence shows that women’s DNA is set to take advantage of men.  Don’t be fooled by a woman’s looks, be smart.  When I mentioned pay for sex earlier, what I mean is figure out how much are you willing to spend(dinner, movie, gift….ever a good prostitute, there’s not mush different, most women have sex with many men any way) to get sex.  Keep it simple.  It’s like business transaction.  Put a price on a pussy and pay for it and move on to the next one when they want more then you are willing to pay for the pussy.  There are plenty fish.

Don’t get pussy trapped where you pay for more then pussy is worth.  Case in point.  I use to spend $12,000 on mortgage, three fancy car payments, other super expensive stuff my ex wife can’t live with out, why because I gave her pussy too much value then what it was worth.

Please learn from us.  Don’t do what I did.  Pussy not worth that much more then a fancy dinner cost.  Decide how much you want to pay for it and do the transaction, that’s all there is to it.  Keep your heart and emotions very very far from a women.

Women suck you dry the moment you fall emotionally in love with them.  DON’T DO IT.  JUST PAY FOR THE PUSSY, THAT’S THAT.  There are too many other pleasure in life, do what you love, enjoy life(have pussy on the side if the price is right for you)

 

 

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

@keymaster thanks. I made another thread about this as I felt the responses are inadequate and impractical. (just my opinion) Also, you may want to edit it and correct the spelling of ad homiNem.

 

@raybandaku Thanks again for such a wonderful reply. That first paragraph was just brilliant. But you know what? I’ve noticed that western girls are far less manipulative than others. Maybe because they already have most resources? I unno really, but its certainly true from what I’ve observed. Can you source this evidence you speak of? About that stuff being in female dna, ie.

I’ll try my best to learn from you. Its just that some women are SO WELL camouflaged that I can’t help but let my guard down. I’m sorry to hear that you made such mistakes in your life. Good luck for the future!

Girls that pay for dates exist… what do you say about that?

[Anonymous 2]

Bottom line:  There is no reason to go through life being unhappy. And being manipulated makes me very unhappy. One of the rules I live by is to not allow myself to be manipulated. Period. If someone tries to manipulate me I don’t put up with their bulls~~~. I drop them down to the bottom of my priority list and spend as little time with them as possible (preferably no time at all).

Is finding a woman who doesn’t play games possible? Do NAWALT women exit? Maybe. In my experience, finding one who isn’t 1) Married already, 2) Married to her job 3) Unattractive, is a challenge.  Good luck with that.

If you have the looks to become a gigalo, that’s not a half-bad idea. Women who pay for sex don’t have any long-term expectations, they’re not after your money, they know what they want. I say, go for it.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

In my experience, saying “not all women are like that” is like saying “not all mines explode”. Mines are made to explode, that’s what they do. Even knowing that there may be one in a hundred mines that may not blow your leg off when stepped on, would you be willing to risk walking across a clearly posted minefield?

MGTOW don’t make the mines and we don’t plant them in the field and we’re certainly not interested in finding them, pulling them up and rehabilitating them or running out to stomp on them in angry revenge… we just avoid them wherever possible and put up signs to encourage others to do the same.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

In my experience, saying “not all women are like that” is like saying “not all mines explode”.

+10 That’s exactly what it is. I used the hand-grenade analogy myself. Someone hands you a box of grenades and some of them are duds. They want you to pull the pin. You push the box back and say “f~~~ that”. They say “OMFG!!! NOT ALL GRENADES ARE LIKLE THAT!!!!!” Are you still gonna pull the pin?

What is the BEST thing that happens if you participate in that s~~~?
That’s right.. you don’t die.

That’s not a benefit. Not dying is not a gain. The person who says “not all grenades are like that!” is intensely stupid. It pays HUGE to think all grenades are like that. A hand grenade will not pay or reward you in any other way. The BEST thing it does, is not kill you.

That’s what a western woman is today. A f~~~ing hand grenade – shaming you into pulling the pin.

The NAWALT argument is so f~~~ing retarded I can’t even finish this sentence.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

It’s quite simple. Don’t associate with them. If you do whether as friends or in a relationship, you will be dealing with some or all of the s~~~ you listed. If you don’t, you will not have to deal with any of it. Ever, ever, ever. Taking your age into account, I know you can’t just give up ass cold turkey. If your sex drive is still going 240, then make it clear up front that’s what you want. If you’re not horizontal in a matter of hours, move on to the next one. They’ll sure as s~~~ use you for resources, use them for sex. Professionals are better and sometimes cheaper and porn is free.

If your sex drive is in check, you’re ahead of the game. It makes 7 and 8 null and void which is all that matters becasue vagina is all they’re bringing to the table. The rest of the s~~~? A wise man once told me this about being in a relationship: “If someone is going to be mad, it’s got to be her.” There are plenty alternate forms of getting off as I listed above while they go through there emotional roller coaster.

 

Anyway, long story short:

Associate with women on any level: You’re dealing with this.

Don’t associate with them: You’re not dealing with it.

 

 

 

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

No I don’t, but I have to if I want to be a part of mainstream society right?

Why in the blue f~~~ would you want to be a part of mainstream society? You have much to learn, young Skywalker.

Fuck this planet.

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