Help! Please answer my questions.

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

Hey guys! plz help this n00b. I’m 22yo and am just realizing the nature of women.

 

So, they say that the man is the head and the woman is the neck that controls the direction of the head as she pleases. Even if the man in the relationship is “dominant” the woman has the power to dominate him through emotional manipulation and arguments and thus she is the “true dominant”. It is common knowledge now that women’s secret is that they let you think you’re in control, but they’re in control the whole time. HOW do they do this and what do do about it?

 

Also, how do you stop their emotional dominance? Especially their following weapons:

<b>1. Crying to guilt

2. Making angry so that she get’s an opportunity to play the victim, and thus guilt the man

3. Cook good food and use it as a weapon later

4. Have sex asap so that he reveals his emotions which can be used for future manipulation

5. Pretending they are sad/upset/weak

6. Threatening to leave

7. Cutting off sex

8. Make him think she’s cheating or will cheat on him

9. Frequent criticisms, irrational tantrums, twisting things around, act bitchy

10. Act like she doesn’t care when the man show emotions</b>

 

Am I as a man, destined to become a victim of women? How to not get angry at them?? They even seem to dominate/manipulate with their looks and its not surprising considering 93% of communication is nonverbal.

 

I just feel so confused and hopeless and sad that this is reality. Are women the dominant sex?

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

I’m gonna answer your question with a question. Do you really want to deal with all of that?

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[BlueToRedSpectator 23]

No I don’t, but I have to if I want to be a part of mainstream society right?

[Anonymous 0]

Hi,

for start

Are women the dominant sex?

Bulls~~~ thinking this.

I know all the points you show.

Now the answers,  some of them I did not but I wished I had done it all. * which I did.

1. Right and left slap in her face, wake up Baby

2. see 1

3. Eating it all, complaining about some bloddy f***ing spice and throwing the rest in the pot including the pot out of the kitchen window, open it before.

4. Masturbate when she is lying next to you*

5. Give her a Business Card of a psychologist and tell her that tonight on T.V. they will Show the movie “One flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest”

6. Laughing,  unlock the front door and listen to the Song “Too Late, too late – Motörhead or Good Bye & Good Riddance to bad Luck -AC/DC”*

7. see 4*

8. see 6

9. see 1 and/ or 5

10. Listen to “Cold at Ice – Foreigner” or see 6*

 

A happy new year and CHEERS!!!

[YouWishParticipant 36]

They aren’t the dominant sex. I would call them the Tyrant Sex. The philosopher Rousseau pointed out that if a woman was not restrained by the social confines of modesty, submissiveness and domesticity, she would be free to tyrannize men because she can so easily arouse our passions.

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

@bluetored: You don’t have to do anything you don’t wanna do if you think it’s detrimental to your well-being. If you want to be a part of mainstream society, you’re not going your own way. Understand that society doesn’t give a f~~~ about men. If it did, there’d be just as many homeless shelters for men as there are for women. MGTOW is about taking charge of your life and putting yourself above everything else. Do what’s good/right for you and stop giving a f~~~ about society. Take good care of #1.

Anybody will dominate you if you let them. Refuse to deal with bulls~~~. Do not ever put up with bad behavior. Learn to recognize bad deals and do not hesitate to sever toxic relationships; after a fair warning of course. Tell women who exhibit the behavior you’ve listed above to either grow up or f~~~ off.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[SKYRULEParticipant 9]

 

I was a purple pill MGTOW for 2 decades, 2011 I became a full fledge mgtow. Life is good. I have 2 retirement plans, a great career, and money for travel, vacation, and video games.  Life is good. Here are some vids and pictures for mgtow. Happy 2015.

 

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Check out my mgtow pics, feel free to steal or share.

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[SKYRULEParticipant 9]

<span style=”color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, ‘lucida grande’, tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>Also look 10 Reasons to go MGTOW. </span>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8o61EGtk2k    and    https://www.facebook.com/303452403113081/photos/a.306261922832129.1073741829.303452403113081/358556720935982/?type=3&theater

[RevMattParticipant 28]

I think the gist of the questions are “how do you maintain your autonomy while being in a relationship with a woman?”

All of us have our ways of managing this. The good news is that things get a whole lot easier for us once we pass the age of 35. By the time we are 50 we have it made PROVIDED we don’t start chasing the proverbial “trophy wife”. Stick with women our own age and use that great invention called the light switch. It works wonders.

The key is keeping an emotional distance from the woman you are involved in. Long distance relationships, having more than one relationship at a time and dating older women exclusively can be effective strategies. Another is to make your goals and aspirations your priority and never let a woman interfere with this. When they complain say goodbye.

For me, MGTOW does not mean avoiding relationships with women. Just don’t let a relationship run your life, do not sign a marriage contract and do not make babies.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Some MGTOW might say it’s prudent to avoid relationships with females at all cost. No relationship, no bulls~~~. That’s a pretty compelling argument. But there are those of us who desire sex and the occasional company of a female so the question stands… how do you get sex and the occasional company of a female without falling prey to her manipulations?

My answer is “Don’t give a f~~~.” You have to think of females as being disposable in sex the way men are disposable in work. You get with an attractive female, charm her, take her to bed three to five times and then when she starts to demand more for what she’s already been giving you, you kick her to the kerb and start over.

Think of it like discount shopping. Most stores are going to have a “loss leader” that they use to get you in the door and into a buying mood. This loss leader is priced below market value… maybe even priced below wholesale value… and the idea is that you’ll come to buy it and then, since you already made the trip, you’ll stick around and buy a bunch of their other, highly marked up crap and they’ll end up with a profit.

But what if you go and only buy the loss leader products then split and get your other stuff someplace else where IT’S marked as a loss leader? Then you win. The only thing you have to do is not feel obligated to make them any profit and be willing to get back in the car and drive someplace else for more bargains.

Females do this to us. They give us access to their bodies and stroke our egos for just long enough to get their claws into us, then all the crap you mentioned comes into play. But it only works if we let it work… if we let them make us feel obligated and guilty. Stop doing THAT PART and you’re golden.

My life strategy is simple: 1) Initiate Trades 2) Always Trade Fairly 3) When Cheated, Leave 4) Repeat

This way you know you’ll get shafted once by each female you get involved with but since you also know that’s your cue to move on to the next one, you don’t have to put up with that bulls~~~ or any more from that particular female. Treat every female this way and your problem is solved.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

@docfenderson said “But what if you go and only buy the loss leader products then split and get your other stuff someplace else where IT’S marked as a loss leader? Then you win. The only thing you have to do is not feel obligated to make them any profit and be willing to get back in the car and drive someplace else for more bargains.”

@docfenderson also said “My life strategy is simple: 1) Initiate Trades 2) Always Trade Fairly 3) When Cheated, Leave 4) Repeat.”

Doc…It might sound like I am ‘Dick-Riding’ but I swear you are on Fire today!

The Art and Science of “F~~~ Them and Bounce Out”…otherwise known as Pump and Dump.

 

[tsParticipant 109]

Some MGTOW might say it’s prudent to avoid relationships with females at all cost. No relationship, no bulls~~~. That’s a pretty compelling argument. But there are those of us who desire sex and the occasional company of a female so the question stands… how do you get sex and the occasional company of a female without falling prey to her manipulations?

You hire a hooker and get it over with. No need to deal with everything else, especially not with post-wall women.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

they say that the man is the head and the woman is the neck that controls the direction of the head as she pleases.

Hello and welcome to MGTOW. Excellent topic. That quote can be directly seen in the feature film “My Big Fat Greek Wedding”. I saw that film in the theatre and everybody laughed. Everybody. And why? Because they all know women are manipulators and they are counting on tactics to get what they want – and as a means of control. To bend a man into submission thinking they are “smarter”.

A couple of scenes later, she emotionally manipulates her man into making a decision while falsely leading him to thinking it was his idea. Just like a girlfriend asks “do you want to get married in the summer or the winter?”. Be very careful there.

“Do YOU want…..” She asks.

If he says “the summer”, she just got him to say HE wants to get married in the summer.
If he says “the winter”, she just got him to say HE wants to get married in the winter.

Either way, she just got him to say he wants to get married. He may as well have just proposed, and in a woman’s mind, he just did. But the only correct response is understanding how women work, and saying: “Say, do we have any pretzels?”. Right there, her manipulation FAILS on the spot. Now you’re smarter than she is, because you know what’s really going on, and she won’t like it. Not one bit.

You don’t do this to be “an asshole”. You’re shutting down her manipulations. Big difference.
She shouldn’t have attempted it in the first place. By deflecting the puck, you show her who’s boss.
If she expects a man to propose, it will be HIS idea. If she wants to get married, SHE will go out and buy HIM a ring.

.. or she can shut the f~~~ up.

Read the book, “The Manipulated Man”. Search the forum for it, and you will find a link to download the PDF. It’s required reading as far as every young man is concerned. Your first (and WARNING: BIG) red pill. And that’s why the author received death threats and hate mail from women everywhere.

Made your post sticky so other guys can chime in.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

BlueToRed, good post and good questions.
In response to your comment about becoming part of mainstream society I’ll pass along some advice my uncle told me when I was 10 years old, and believe me it affected me strongly then and has influenced my life ever since.

“Why play by other peoples rules? Your life isnt their game. They designed the rules for them to win, not you. Make up your own rules, Fitz, play the game you want to play.”

It was the only time I’ve ever spoken to that uncle and I remember it as if it was yesterday. Maybe those words will not only answer your comment about mainstream society but all your original questions too

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[…Spectator 1165]

TS for the win. Straight up business deal.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Dear Noob,
Your observations are thorough and pretty accurate, and in my estimation, you are already much better informed about the nature of women than I was at your age (at which time you were not even born yet). At 22, many women don’t have experience with men and are still learning. But all of them have at least started to learn, and are usually learning faster how to play this game than men at your age. Men your age (me included at the time), are distracted by hormones and have been conditioned to have and believe in rational thought. Women… eh, not so much.

As a 48 year old veteran of all the things you are currently pointing out, I would say to pay attention to the postings above that advise you to accept that women really are as selfish, dishonest and unreliable as your observations are indicating to you that they are. You’re not just imagining it or mistaking something else for it. It really is exactly as you see it.

The advice I wish someone would have given me at your age would be: first, do not get emotionally involved with women wether you are in a relationship, or having sex with them, or not. Do not allow yourself to become emotionally invested. To have someone get emotionally invested in you puts you in a position to take advantage of that person, get enormous unearned benefits from doing so, with little or no consequence. That’s an enormous test of character and responsibility. There are not really any women your age who have the maturity, character and level of personal responsibility to make them a worthwhile emotional investment. Do not do this.

Avoid it for the same reason you pass up the chance to wrestle in the mud with a pig. The reason you do not wrestle in the mud with a pig is that you cannot win, and will soon discover that the pig is actually enjoying it. You have about as much chance to get fairness in an emotional contest (which is how they see it when the need arises for any kind of compromise necessary to keep a relationship on fair terms), as a woman has at winning a physical confrontation with you. They are not going to be stupid enough to initiate a physical altercation with you that they know they cannot win in order to try to get you to put their interests above your own. But they will make it an emotional contest and use all the things you described above to win. They realize the nature of this game way before men do, and by the time it’s time to play for real stakes, they are experts at it. The only winning move for you is not to play. Do not volunteer, or respond to invitations, or provocations to get emotionally involved. Keep in mind what key master and others have already posted about THE ONLY WINNING MOVE IS NOT TO PLAY.
That nonverbal communication thing works both ways. When you have no emotional investment, you won’t often need to remind her, she’ll probably know and will be much less likely to try most of that crap you mentioned in the first place. If she’s doing that stuff now, IT’S BECAUSE IT’S WORKING. But it only works because you volunteer to let it work on you. She’s not holding a gun to your head. This is the answer to your main question: stop volunteering to allow this stuff to work.

Once you have decided to make no emotional investment in a woman, it’s impossible for her to use these things you mentioned. If I see a stranger crying, I will not sacrifice my own interests to get them to stop. If someone is mad at me who I don’t need in my life, I don’t have to change my behavior or sacrifice my own interests to convince them to stay. She cooks me dinner? That’s worth about 15 dollars (the average cost of take out in my neighborhood). If she cooks and tries to use it to guilt me later, she will shown the door and given 15$ on her way out which she can use for cab fare. As for a woman cutting me off from sex…this is their favorite, and most reliable weapon.

Pay very close attention here my young friend: No woman can cut you off from sex. She can only cut you off from sex with her. BIG DIFFERENCE! The only way she can cut you off from sex is if you have voluntarily made an emotionally based commitment to have sex only with her. Don’t get emotionally involved and you can have all the sex you want and no woman will ever be able to stop you. The face of the woman may change from time to time, but the overall amount is up to you. There are billions of women on this planet. For one of them to cut you off from sex with her… does not put any noticeable dent in your opportunities to have sex in this life. It only indicates to you that it’s time to have sex with the next woman. When you make this apparent to her (by having sex with other women), one of two things will happen. She will either stop trying to use it as a weapon, or she will break up with you. If she breaks up with you, so what? You’ll already be having sex with someone else and there will have been no interruption in your sex life…just another new face.

Once you understand this, approach a relationship with a woman (if you choose to interact with them at all) as a business deal…just like a job, or a car you buy or sell, or the mortgage on a house. Treat it as a business deal and nothing else. You can assume they thought of you as a business opportunity before they ever met you, and you should approach it the same way. In the forums section about wether mgtow and dating are compatible, I wrote a post with more about how to approach this as a business deal. Feel free to read it, use it and get back to me with wether or not it was helpful.

The only other thing I would add is this: When doing a business deal with a car lot or a bank, there are laws that govern how each of you must behave. These laws keep both parties accountable. There are no laws that keep women accountable for anything. If she hits you, she will not be prosecuted for assault. If she takes from you, she will not be prosecuted for theft, and if she lies to you, she will not be held accountable for either criminal fraud or civil breach. If she convinces you or tricks you into having children with her, she can take your children and not only will she not be prosecuted for kidnapping, the courts will help her to collect the ransom. Regardless of how much that ransom is, or how reliably you pay it, you will not get your children back. Know these things when you get into a business deal (relationship) with any western woman…because you can bet your ass that she knows ALL of this.

The things you have observed and mentioned in your post are the examples of how these people behave with reason and accountability removed. If you allow women into a position to influence how you feel, then you will have allowed them control over you and you will find yourself feeling guilty, obligated, uncertain etc. They see this as weakness and will respond accordingly. Eventually you will find yourself feeling poor, used, discarded and disrespected. They do not respect weakness, do not appreciate weakness, and do not tolerate weakness for long without imposing severe consequences on you for being weak.

As grim as this sounds, you’ve come to the right place. Don’t be afraid to take the red pill. Pay attention. Keep reading. And see things as they are…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[YouWishParticipant 36]

Wow, great stuff ! BrainPilot is dead-on, and as a 45 year-old man, I can back up what he says. And it is said brilliantly. Absolute truth.

[…Spectator 1165]

@You wish: Brian Pilot is a f~~~ing genius. Lucky that he takes time to post here.

[Anonymous 5]

I also want to show respect to BrainPilot. That was an excellent read. I hope someday I can write something so epic. I think exactly like you do, but I lack the skills to type those into words. Thankfully people like you exist.

[DazzleParticipant 67]

Great replies from BrainPilot and Doc, both spot on. I think you are both about my age (50), which seems to put us in a certain mind set after many years on the battle front. The only thing I can add to what has been said is the obvious ” Watch out for the getting pregnant card”. Do not believe she will take care of the contraceptive side of things, BAG UP! because when all else fails a women would have no hesitation in “forgetting” to take it.

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