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You see, women are a resource, they have kids.
Wait a minute, since you get food at the expense of a woman, then its sexism again!
How could you display such androcentric behavior?
Me man. Me hungry. Me woman go mooooo
Your topic is Gynocentrism and Patriarchy, hence which gender have the better deal matters in the argument.
Gnostic, that’s my point. Neither. A family isn’t about the man or the woman. It’s about the child and the families survival.
Patriarchy and Gynocentrism are just bulls~~~ s~~~ terms to control the narrative of the man or woman’s point of view. What hurts/destroys the family/children matters. If one or the other has the better deal it matters not. Neither is equal. There is no equity nor rights that can justify destroying your family. Each should do what is necessary for the families survival.
Everything else is just giant turd fog b~~~~.
Peace brothers
Eh, a lot going on here. Just going to add a few things.
In terms whether women and children are resources or consumers, that depends on your perspective. If your perspective is that of a single man, then women are much more of a consumer then a resource. They provide relatively little labor, do provide children, but can consume you to death very easily. The government ensures that women can continually consume with absolutely no guarantee of providing any resources.
To a man, children are also mostly consumers, but they are much better resources in many cases. Not in terms of labor or money, but in life enrichment. That’s hard to measure and absolutely debatable.
In terms of society, I would say that women and children are investments more then anything else. Women because they produce more children, and children because they grow up to be adult resources. They both consume more then they produce, but eventually, the boys grow up to be productive men. At the same time, you could argue that a woman past child birthing age is no longer an investment and is still a heavy consumer.
To me, I think a patriarchal society was successful because it best aligned the needs of a man with the needs of society. When you place a man at the head of a family, women and children become investments, just as they are for society at large. A women can produce more children for you and your clan. Children will grow up to become product adults for you and your clan.
In today’s world, the needs of a man do not align with the needs of a greater society. Men have recognized this and realized they are better off dropping concern about what society needs and taking care of their own needs. MGTOW.
In terms of men controlling a patriarchal society, I think lead is a better term. I do have the desire to lead a family, not to control it.
As far as the reason why an outside force will kill men and enslave the women, I don’t think it has much to do with resource capabilities. Men are dangerous, and a much greater threat to rebellion then women and children. If you kill off the men, you are limiting the resources of what you just acquired for sure, but there is very little chance that you will lose it.
I see our society as gynocentric, mainly because women are able to manipulatively claim inferiority and equality whenever it serves their own personal interest best.
Ok. Then do it.
You see, women are a resource, they have kids.
Wait a minute, since you get food at the expense of a woman, then its sexism again!
How could you display such androcentric behavior?
Me man. Me hungry. Me woman go mooooo
Your topic is Gynocentrism and Patriarchy, hence which gender have the better deal matters in the argument.
Gnostic, that’s my point. Neither. A family isn’t about the man or the woman. It’s about the child and the families survival.
Patriarchy and Gynocentrism are just bulls~~~ s~~~ terms to control the narrative of the man or woman’s point of view. What hurts/destroys the family/children matters. If one or the other has the better deal it matters not. Neither is equal. There is no equity nor rights that can justify destroying your family. Each should do what is necessary for the families survival.
Everything else is just giant turd fog b~~~~.
There will never be equality. More capable people who can produce more will get rewarded more. If people flip that there will be no motivation for people to produce more, just like what we see in communist countries.
I can also say looking from the perspective of the children and families is also another way of controlling the narrative. It is just changing sacrifice men for the women into sacrifice for the children and families. It is still s~~~, different favor. If you only cater to the children, they will grow up to entitled whinny SJW as we see nowadays. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme more without ever thinking they should do something to earn it.
Rather then looking it from any perspective, looking at what works is best.
The most stable form is you get rewarded because you earn it. If you are entitled to the reward because you are women, you are children, the system will eventually collapse because you will run out of other people resource.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
You’re a dumb ass m8. THis is the typical shaming tactic and you know it is. If a old woman in her 80s came up to you and said the same s~~~ you would be crying that it was a shaming tactic. So are cows not resources you dumb ass? It’s almost like you have no clue where biological gynocentrism comes for, or maybe you’re just someone who comes on this site to read countless posts of people agreeing with you so any argumetns that deviate from you, you respond with the typical shaming tactics and the typical “i have experience”. Like, go read a f~~~ing biology book please.
Thank you for responding Morning Star. This allows me to understand better where your mental maturity level is at.
If you were a 40 ish year old man I would be silent. But, since you are young I will try as gently as I can to explain.
I do not have to go to reddit to learn. I don’t have to go to twitter, Facebook, you tube or a feminist rally.
I don’t have to go read a biology book because I already have. I graduated from college with a mechanical engineering degree years ago. I have been fortunate enough to have been involved in the building of an industry with other men.
An old man once whispered in my ear, “he’ll help you if you let him.”
You might think it is shaming but the truth is I am fifty something years old and I have children that are older than you. It’s not a shaming tactic it’s a fact.
Now about this cow s~~~. A cow is a resource. A woman is not a resource. End of discussion.
Go back and read your post. But, insert the word money where you have resource.
The only way you make sense is if the man is a pimp and the woman is a prostitute.
I am an asshole piece of s~~~. You have to understand that you are the person raging against the man. You’re blood pressure is sky rocketing over nothing. And I really don’t care what your definition is of me.
Good luck
Nice appeal to authority anecdotal sentiment. It’s really nice. Also, I’m not raging against anything, lmao. I don’t even know where that came from.
Notice how you’re literally calling me a tuna because I have a different opinion than you, exactly like feminists who cry patriarchy and misogyny each time someone disagrees with her.
I think I provided reasons… Disagreement is actually interesting, because we where doing such a nice discussion, and I was enjoying it. But eventually I noticed where you where going, and it appeared to be that classic tuna refraining of words.
I also noticed that you failed to say “I am not a deceitful c~~~”. Instead you lash out…
Also, my profile pic isn’t even a couple you idiot, it’s the same damn person on both sides you idiot. It’s like, you’re trying so hard to call me a tuna because I disagreed with you, it’s pathetic.
Dont be so hard on me, I am just an old guy that looks at a drawing of two people touching their head in loving manner and thinks they must be an heterosexual couple. It doesnt occur to me an homosexual couple or a autosexual couple, go figure…
Not that I have anything against homosexuals or autosexuals…
And also in my old men view the right drawing appears to have a collar around the neck and a feminine posture… How was I to figure that it was a guy, or even the same guy?
The uni-sexism of these kind of drawings doesnt make my life easy. Sorry for confusing it!
I was simply saying that you can’t call it gynocentrism you dumb ass. There’s a difference between a woman getting a better deal where she still is getting hurt v.s. gynocentrism idiot. I’m not even going to respond to this point by point because the rest of it is just ranting.
There is a difference between getting hurt and getting KILLED! If that difference is about being a female, then its gynocentrism.
F~~~ it! Do you chose to die of infection or lose your leg? Do you chose to die of cancer or endure painful chemotherapy? Isnt one better than the other? WILL YOU NOT CHOSE TO LIVE, EVEN IF IN PAIN?
I dont know why you are calling me an idiot when you cannot see this simple notion.
You are the one that is taking the definition of a word to literally and in a reductive way. It smells like an agenda, if you ask me.
So because I didn’t respond to all your baseless rhetorics and instead argued back that must mean your rhetorics are true? Sweet logic right there 8/8. You should become a lawyer because holy s~~~ that is a awesome defense right there.
Also the character you are referring to is the same person. On the left is him before his accident and on the right is him after his accident. So like, when you see two boys looking at each other do you always assume that they’re homosexual? You really have some homoerotic feelings that you should straighten out.
What agenda? Like, dude do you honestly think your life is that important? This is a f~~~ing website that most people don’t even know exist. There is no agenda, I was honestly trying to learn something new but I was met with baseless accusations and shaming language. Also the argument isn’t if one is better than the other, that’s called the sjw oppression scale pal. YOu seem to think with this slave morality type of thinking where everybody is out to get you and anyone who differs from you is accused of heresay, like it’s actually pretty sad.
To put it simply, the so call “Patriarchy” benefit women more then men even when men contribute more, hence it is Geocentric.
Women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal.
women are abducted to sold as sex slave? Men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that.
Men have to do worst job, more dangerous job, soul crushing job, fight in war for the minority elites.While under the “Patriarchy” women get a job that let her choose what time to work, less stressful and heavy job, get to stay with their children,
Slave morality, nobody was arguing that the men are having a better deal. Stop thinking on a sjw oppression scale and actually acknowledge the argument.
Define slave morality. I fail to see comparing the value that men / women produce and what they go through is slave morality. I don’t think you understand what it mean.
Your topic is Gynocentrism and Patriarchy, hence which gender have the better deal matters in the argument.
I showed a video about it earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhaaVeYmWM4
F~~~ it, I guess you’re right, bitches can be a resource.
Are you comparing women to cows? Are you saying that you might eat them if hungry enough? How could you display such androcentric behavior?
Wait a minute, it is not androcentric because you were HUNGRY! Since you are not confortable it does not matter if you kill women just because they are women, ITS NOT SEXISM!
Wait a minute, since you get food at the expense of a woman, then its sexism again!
How could you display such androcentric behavior?
Is this supposed to mean something?
To put it simply, the so call “Patriarchy” benefit women more then men even when men contribute more, hence it is Geocentric.
Women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal.
women are abducted to sold as sex slave? Men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that.
Men have to do worst job, more dangerous job, soul crushing job, fight in war for the minority elites.While under the “Patriarchy” women get a job that let her choose what time to work, less stressful and heavy job, get to stay with their children,
Slave morality, nobody was arguing that the men are having a better deal. Stop thinking on a sjw oppression scale and actually acknowledge the argument.
Define slave morality. I fail to see comparing the value that men / women produce and what they go through is slave morality. I don’t think you understand what it mean.
Your topic is Gynocentrism and Patriarchy, hence which gender have the better deal matters in the argument.
I showed a video about it earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhaaVeYmWM4
So do you understand the video you yourself posted?
Now point out where in my arguments use morality.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
There will never be equality. More capable people who can produce more will get rewarded more. If people flip that there will be no motivation for people to produce more, just like what we see in communist countries.
I can also say looking from the perspective of the children and families is also another way of controlling the narrative. It is just changing sacrifice men for the women into sacrifice for the children and families. It is still s~~~, different favor. If you only cater to the children, they will grow up to entitled whinny SJW as we see nowadays. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme more without ever thinking they should do something to earn it
That is the problem “people who produce more will be rewarded more” is not what is happening. Those capable men are being destroyed. It is flipping. It’s called liberal socialism.
Looking from the perspective of the child/family is the only way to look at what’s best for the family. It is the only narrative worth controlling. I am saying this from the context of what is in the families best interest. Sacrifice is what you do when you parent a child.
The idea that a woman or a man can enter into a family and then say that I am not happy so I quit is the problem. The feminist movement is about empowering the woman to do what’s best for her in all cases. (Be a single mom, you can do it, you go girl philosophy)
Yes, it is still s~~~ but when you choose to create a family you take on that s~~~ responsibility.
My point is when you argue about patriarchy or gynocentrism in a family context neither matter. Only what is in the best interest for the family matters. It is what should be controlled.
Instead, our society protects the woman and everything continues to tilt in that direction. Hence, we have s~~~ children.
Peace brothers
To put it simply, the so call “Patriarchy” benefit women more then men even when men contribute more, hence it is Geocentric.
Women cannot produce as good value as men can. Consider what value women produce, what both men and women suffer through, women get the better deal.
women are abducted to sold as sex slave? Men have to save her or lose his wife / daughter / mother, or they are killed in the abduction process.
The majority of men are suffering by going to war for the benefit of a minority of elites, and women don’t have to suffer that.
Men have to do worst job, more dangerous job, soul crushing job, fight in war for the minority elites.While under the “Patriarchy” women get a job that let her choose what time to work, less stressful and heavy job, get to stay with their children,
Slave morality, nobody was arguing that the men are having a better deal. Stop thinking on a sjw oppression scale and actually acknowledge the argument.
Define slave morality. I fail to see comparing the value that men / women produce and what they go through is slave morality. I don’t think you understand what it mean.
Your topic is Gynocentrism and Patriarchy, hence which gender have the better deal matters in the argument.
I showed a video about it earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhaaVeYmWM4
So do you understand the video you yourself posted?
Now point out where in my arguments use morality.
When I said slave morality I don’t even remember talking to you. So what are you trying to accomplish here?
There will never be equality. More capable people who can produce more will get rewarded more. If people flip that there will be no motivation for people to produce more, just like what we see in communist countries.
I can also say looking from the perspective of the children and families is also another way of controlling the narrative. It is just changing sacrifice men for the women into sacrifice for the children and families. It is still s~~~, different favor. If you only cater to the children, they will grow up to entitled whinny SJW as we see nowadays. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme more without ever thinking they should do something to earn it
That is the problem “people who produce more will be rewarded more” is not what is happening. Those capable men are being destroyed. It is flipping. It’s called liberal socialism.
Looking from the perspective of the child/family is the only way to look at what’s best for the family. It is the only narrative worth controlling. I am saying this from the context of what is in the families best interest. Sacrifice is what you do when you parent a child.
The idea that a woman or a man can enter into a family and then say that I am not happy so I quit is the problem. The feminist movement is about empowering the woman to do what’s best for her in all cases. (Be a single mom, you can do it, you go girl philosophy)
Yes, it is still s~~~ but when you choose to create a family you take on that s~~~ responsibility.
My point is when you argue about patriarchy or gynocentrism in a family context neither matter. Only what is in the best interest for the family matters. It is what should be controlled.
Instead, our society protects the woman and everything continues to tilt in that direction. Hence, we have s~~~ children.
You do realize that you just used gynocentrism to explain the family while saying gynocentrism doesn’t matter right? If a wife can divorce any time she wants to and take teh kids along with 50% of her husband’s earnings and child support, that would be gynocentrism, considering there is no obligation for her to even pay it back. Even radfems like this woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU8-FFo-U7E
At this point, feminism has nothing to do with empowering women, feminism is just gynocentrism where the main goal is to transfer wealth and money from men while holding this allusion it’s to power women. Like all the money and scholarships women get only to want to drop out of the workforce when they hit mid-30s.
When I said slave morality I don’t even remember talking to you. So what are you trying to accomplish here?
If you are not accusing me of slave morality, why you quote me here?
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Hmmm, sounds like tuna, smells like tuna, doesn’t get along with others like tuna. Thinks the cooperation nature that men naturally elicit and is seen on this board is a fault instead of a feature, just like tuna.
Denies being tuna.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
There will never be equality. More capable people who can produce more will get rewarded more. If people flip that there will be no motivation for people to produce more, just like what we see in communist countries.
I can also say looking from the perspective of the children and families is also another way of controlling the narrative. It is just changing sacrifice men for the women into sacrifice for the children and families. It is still s~~~, different favor. If you only cater to the children, they will grow up to entitled whinny SJW as we see nowadays. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme more without ever thinking they should do something to earn it
That is the problem “people who produce more will be rewarded more” is not what is happening. Those capable men are being destroyed. It is flipping. It’s called liberal socialism.
Looking from the perspective of the child/family is the only way to look at what’s best for the family. It is the only narrative worth controlling. I am saying this from the context of what is in the families best interest. Sacrifice is what you do when you parent a child.
The idea that a woman or a man can enter into a family and then say that I am not happy so I quit is the problem. The feminist movement is about empowering the woman to do what’s best for her in all cases. (Be a single mom, you can do it, you go girl philosophy)
Yes, it is still s~~~ but when you choose to create a family you take on that s~~~ responsibility.
My point is when you argue about patriarchy or gynocentrism in a family context neither matter. Only what is in the best interest for the family matters. It is what should be controlled.
Instead, our society protects the woman and everything continues to tilt in that direction. Hence, we have s~~~ children.
A parent can sacrifice for the child, but the child should not take the parents sacrifice for granted. The child have to give back a minimum contribution, like being respectful of their parents.
Can you still say you should sacrifice for your child if your child made a false rape accusation against you?
http://www.newser.com/story/229635/girl-made-up-rape-allegations-about-dad-using-50-shades.html
Or you need your child to contribute a minimum amount of effort to earn your love?
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
Anonymous3Like, dude do you honestly think your life is that important? This is a f~~~ing website that most people don’t even know exist.
THAT WHAT YOU WISH, YOU C~~~-SUCKER C~~~.
I KNOW MEN ARE NOT IMPORTANT IN YOUR TUNA TWISTED BRAINS.
My life matters to me!
And this site matters to many and saves men’s lives. It is so important that you come here to disrupt it. That is how important and scary it is to you idiot feminists!
You have been getting advantage of our good-will while spitting on everybody that addresses you politely.
You respond with insults and shamming language to logical and structured arguments.
And you say our posts are rhetorical?
That is clear female reasoning, as others call it. I call it emotional manipulative s~~~.
If I could jump through your screen and find out you are a guy I would beat the crap out of you. If I would find a c~~~ instead, I would spit on you. AND THAT IS A F~~~ING GYNOCENTRIC BEHAVIOUR ON MY PART!
I will now stop all rational responses to your fishy idiocy and call you for what you are:
GET OUT OF HERE YOU SMELLY TUNA!
A parent can sacrifice for the child, but the child should not take the parents sacrifice for granted. The child have to give back a minimum contribution, like being respectful of their parents.
Can you still say you should sacrifice for your child if your child made a false rape accusation against you?
http://www.newser.com/story/229635/girl-made-up-rape-allegations-about-dad-using-50-shades.html
Or you need your child to contribute a minimum amount of effort to earn your love?
Yes, a child should not take the parents sacrifice for granted but they are a child. They will act/behave like a child. That is perfectly natural and acceptable. The problem is when the parent is a child.
I don’t see it as a child sacrificing for a parent. By sacrifice, I mean that an individual does something to contribute to the survival of the family. (Father working to put food on table) (mother shopping for food) an essential task, etc.
The child does task appropriate stuff as they age in preparation but it isn’t necessary to family survival. It isn’t a sacrifice under pressure.
The false rape issue is an extreme outlier. A spoiled ungrateful brat is the outcome of a dysfunctional family structure. Similar to what I am describing.
The whole thing of explaining gynocentrism and Patriarchy happens within the bubble of the family structure in our society.
That is why it makes no sense to argue with a feminist. She only cares about what she wants. You might as well yell into the wind.
Every argument from a feminist benefits the woman and destroys the family under the justification of equity.
In a family dynamic the man and woman do not have the right to do whatever they want to do. Their actions have consequences.
Thus, an argument of patriarchy or gynocentrism when applied to the family structure can only be controlled from the family narrative.
When anyone uses their gender narrative it is bulls~~~.
Peace brothers
Anonymous3The child have to give back a minimum contribution, like being respectful of their parents.
This is a great lesson to learn.
We are indoctrinated with the notion of “selfless love”, where we must love people that treat us like s~~~.This is how most of us end up in a marriage where nobody respects you and you are supposed to provide and love every single one of the ungrateful kids. The wife is included in the bunch.
This is certainly a societal control measure to oppose natural concepts of fairness.
If you think about yourself you are accused of being “selfish”.
But many rational men notice that women only think on themselves, and they have the whole society for them. Nobody cares for the men.
The tuna said it: we are not important.
But the most damaging part is not the exterior pressures. When we incorporate this society’s moral code, then we condemn ourselves for our “selfishness”!
That is why men are taken advantage of.
We get to be abused and feel bad for thinking its abuse.
In a family dynamic the man and woman do not have the right to do whatever they want to do. Their actions have consequences.
Yes. But when society removes consequences for women you get present day marriage wreck.
In fact, society incentives female destructive behavior.I will lose most of what I worked for all my life with my impending divorce. If I was not only to keep it but also receive monthly payments from my ex, what incentive is there to continue married?
I can’t find the INTRO for Morning-Star-MGTOW, but I admit I am not experienced at navigating this site efficiently. It would be interesting to hear if he or she has gone through the experience of marriage, divorce, working for feminists, etc., like those who respond to him or her have done. You have EXPERIENCED the non-verbal reality of those situations. I have had to work for five women, one of whom was an ardent feminist, and who was the worst supervisor I ever had, period! It seems all this person wants to do is win an argument for whatever personal reason.
I can’t find the INTRO for Morning-Star-MGTOW, but I admit I am not experienced at navigating this site efficiently. It would be interesting to hear if he or she has gone through the experience of marriage, divorce, working for feminists, etc., like those who respond to him or her have done. You have EXPERIENCED the non-verbal reality of those situations. I have had to work for five women, one of whom was an ardent feminist, and who was the worst supervisor I ever had, period! It seems all this person wants to do is win an argument for whatever personal reason.
You can go to his profile by clicking on his picture. Then click the bubble thing and his previous posts come up.
He is 17 and KM authorized him to join. I also didn’t know this until in middle of this post.
He is a product of his environment. He has the intelligence to grasp our world but hasn’t lived it. He takes that as shaming. Whatever. It actually makes me tolerant of his berating.
Hopefully he will be successful in life. Lord knows I was in much worse mental capacity at his age. He just doesn’t understand his audience. And I struggle to understand the millenial audience as well.
Peace brothers
Anonymous3I can’t find the INTRO for Morning-Star-MGTOW, but I admit I am not experienced at navigating this site efficiently. It would be interesting to hear if he or she has gone through the experience of marriage, divorce, working for feminists, etc., like those who respond to him or her have done. You have EXPERIENCED the non-verbal reality of those situations. I have had to work for five women, one of whom was an ardent feminist, and who was the worst supervisor I ever had, period! It seems all this person wants to do is win an argument for whatever personal reason.
You can go to his profile by clicking on his picture. Then click the bubble thing and his previous posts come up.
He is 17 and KM authorized him to join. I also didn’t know this until in middle of this post.
He is a product of his environment. He has the intelligence to grasp our world but hasn’t lived it. He takes that as shaming. Whatever. It actually makes me tolerant of his berating.
Hopefully he will be successful in life. Lord knows I was in much worse mental capacity at his age. He just doesn’t understand his audience. And I struggle to understand the millenial audience as well.
One of the biggest problems with today’s world is that children and women are placed at the forefront and given authority to lead. They don’t have the experience, understanding or ability to lead, and that is the problem. Women and children should be following the lead of men.
Men know what is best for women and children. You can’t just give children what they think they want, because what they want is destructive and hurts them long term, heck even as soon as immediate gratification is done it can harm them.
Women just aren’t capable of being “independent”. There is so much evidence to that, but still this crazed society refuses to admit that. But I’m afraid there is no way around that.
The road to ruin is paved with good intentions. Listening to women and children because they’re weak makes men think they are being noble and fair, but men are given strength and ability and to not use them is the great tragedy. Women and children’s burden is to submit and follow, while men’s burden is to take charge and lead. Men have the greater burden but we have the great ability, the problem is now we have the burden but are not given the authority or power.
The West is terrible and unnatural. Even women understand deep down everything is bad, because they have such high rates of unhappiness and are so medicated. But they aren’t even allowed to submit, because the government won’t let them.
Western governments are the worst thing that has ever happened to the human race. Maybe it is fitting that now Trump or Hillary will be the face of it.
Anonymous3Men have the greater burden but we have the great ability, the problem is now we have the burden but are not given the authority or power.
This ^^^^^^^
Not only this, but it is still expected that men take responsibility without authority, work without recognition and give respect without being respected.
You can go to his profile by clicking on his picture. Then click the bubble thing and his previous posts come up.
He is 17 and KM authorized him to join. I also didn’t know this until in middle of this post.Thanks, Darksith. I had to laugh when you gave his age and because someone that age is lecturing battle-tested and hardened MGTOW veterans on definitions. The MGTOW veterans here have had the EXPERIENCES and one can apply definitions later, however they interpret it. He is like me trying to tell rocket scientists how to build a rocket.
Are you pleased with yourself attempting to sucker others into your pointless vortex of an “argument” and deconstruction on the patriarchy?
I will not be suckered into your feminist debate, but I’ll explain why others are pretty convinced you’re a tuna – and you think like one – and it’s not because they disagree with you or because you have a conflicting opinion.
And if you respond with any “LOL” or “LMAO” you will be reduced to spectator and this s~~~ will be tossed into the litter box because that doesn’t make you right.
You see, women are a resource, they have kids. A man provides sperm but the rest of the process has to be done by women
Really? Would you prefer to to carry for nine months – 4 of which are zero effort at all – or would you prefer to carry 216 monthly payments?? How about for a kid that’s not even YOURS?
That’s why you’re a “tuna” (and think like one), because you will post something so blatantly thoughtless and pretend to be a young man just so you don’t get your ass kicked out.
A barely 18 year old(?) doesn’t write essays on the deconstruction of “the patriarchy” and “gynocentrism”. Using terms like “straw man”…. but hasn’t even wrapped his head around the possibility that men are more than just sperm donors.
You need women to reproduce… your society…..
Exactly what a woman would say.
• YOU need.
• YOUR society.Who the f~~~ are you then if you’e not part of society?
If you’re going to address other men like you’re not one of them, then you can’t be too surprised when they think you’re not one of them yourself.
if women aren’t reproducing, then your society is going to crumble
RRRRRRRRIGHT. So you can stop addressing MGTOW like we haven’t thought about that already – carefully. Don’t lecture others who are already lightyears ahead of you.
Men are fully aware of what happens when they stop contributing, but here you are trying to pass off the idea that WOMEN DO EVERYTHING and men just inject them with sperm.
so you need to support women in order to thrive.
No we f~~~ing don’t.
And men never did. Men contributed to the world (and all of humanity) in far greater ways injecting females with sperm. No individual man ever NEEDS to support women. Ever. You picked the wrong forum for that. Take it someplace else.
This is just logic.
Your entire attempt here is futile and stupid.
Are you happy you got the attention you wanted?
Because you didn’t come here for the truth or an answer.Didn’t you come here saying you’re not even 18? But you think you’ve got “Gynocentrism and Patriarchy Explained”?? The patriarchy is a f~~~ing MYTH. That’s the patriarchy explained.
How the f~~~ do you start a topic called:
“Benefit yourself not women”…. and then show up to lecture men on how they NEED to benefit women.
Go f~~~ yourself. And get the f~~~ out of here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.@ Keymaster
In the world I am a rocket scientist. Every summer I sit on a hiring panel and help review the new crop of college gadjiets.
The sad thing is the millenial kids are just like morning star. Lots of book learning, etc.
I have been mostly just ignoring morning star and have been enjoying the discussion with the other brothers.
This discussion sparked my memory of the time I listened to a Ayn Rand / feminist panel discussion in college. Ayn was debating this very issue.
I sat in the audience and listened to Ayn in awe.
She said that sure a woman might be able to do the man’s role but why would she?
Why wouldn’t she seek the man that could be a man?
Anyway, just sharing a moment in my memory bank.
Peace brothers
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