Gynocentrism and Patriarchy Explained

[Anonymous 1]

Total Lee wrote:

If it’s missing a period, he might be pregnant.

Well that’s plus f~~~ing one right there.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

Tuna party !!

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Anonymous 3]

Morning_Star_MGTOW wrote:

I like how at this point you aren’t even denying you’re just like a feminist who cries patriarchy.

YOU:

ME:

BUuuu!

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Gee, look how quiet the room got.

[Anonymous 42]

shhhhhh!

[Morning_Star_MGTOWSpectator 72]

Total Lee wrote:

I didn’t say you lied. I am asking how old you are and hope you will answer truthfully.

17

Total Lee wrote:

If it’s missing a period, he might be pregnant.

What a cuck comment.

Anonymous wrote:

He’s like a pitchback! Or should I say Bitchpack?

We’re reaching maximum cuckitude.

Total Lee wrote:

Morning_Star_MGTOW wrote:

Are you compensating for a small dick or something? Lmao.

You should know better than that. That doesn’t work on men.
Neither does typing “lmao”

What a cuck answer.

[Anonymous 42]

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

Morning_Star_MGTOW wrote:

17

Well when you joined, you had to make a declaration that you are man at least 18 years old and your word on that is honorable.

Morning_Star_MGTOW wrote:

When did I lie about my age? Lmao what?

So yeah. You lied. Lmao what yourself. You’re cruising on vapors and KM can kick you out on that basis alone.

[Anonymous 3]

[AFTParticipant 2726]

Excuse me for interrupting the s~~~ slinging contest for a moment.

My two cents is that Gynocentrism is a female primary point of view, female tinted glasses if you like, whereas Patriarchy is a system of organisation that accepts men are the primary drivers of civilization. The two are not mutually exclusive, in fact I would argue that Gynocentrism is not only present in Patriarchy, but that Patriarchy was established to control and keep Gynocentrism leashed.

Now the definition of Patriarchy is divergent, and I’m sure I wouldn’t agree with a feminist definition of it. We would both agree that Patriarchy is a male primary social order, however I would argue that any benefits or rights that males enjoyed came at a hefty price, our burden was to provide, protect, die for our family and country in war. Whereas a feminist would conveniently forget men’s burden and point straight to our rights like they were privileges fallen from the sky.

That’s why when I refer to Patriarchy, I see the rights men enjoyed together with the price we paid, whereas the feminist corruption of that definition never really existed, except for perhaps the few elite in society.

Reading this thread and what it has turned into I have been reminded that I am not only walking away from Women, but a feminist constructed society and all that it breeds.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Anonymous 3]

AFT wrote:

Reading this thread and what it has turned into I have been reminded that I am not only walking away from Women, but a feminist constructed society and all that it breeds.

That is correct sir.

And if I may add, your post also demonstrates the difference between rational argumentation and the s~~~ contests that these days passes for argumentation for feminists, women, SJW and the cultural Marxist intellectuals.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

I am sure she is a woman because she keep deflecting my points that the “Patriarchy” is Gynocentric with big words she don’t know and when called out on it she starts to lie that she never address me. Even when her reply post show the long list of post history.

Women always do that, deflect, deflect and when cannot deflect, lies in the face, caught on lie then ignore.

/forums/topic/gynocentrism-and-patriarchy-explained/page/3/#post-339855

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

DorkShit wrote:

Gnostic wrote:

A parent can sacrifice for the child, but the child should not take the parents sacrifice for granted. The child have to give back a minimum contribution, like being respectful of their parents.

Can you still say you should sacrifice for your child if your child made a false rape accusation against you?

http://www.newser.com/story/229635/girl-made-up-rape-allegations-about-dad-using-50-shades.html

Or you need your child to contribute a minimum amount of effort to earn your love?

Yes, a child should not take the parents sacrifice for granted but they are a child. They will act/behave like a child. That is perfectly natural and acceptable. The problem is when the parent is a child.

I don’t see it as a child sacrificing for a parent. By sacrifice, I mean that an individual does something to contribute to the survival of the family. (Father working to put food on table) (mother shopping for food) an essential task, etc.

The child does task appropriate stuff as they age in preparation but it isn’t necessary to family survival. It isn’t a sacrifice under pressure.

The false rape issue is an extreme outlier. A spoiled ungrateful brat is the outcome of a dysfunctional family structure. Similar to what I am describing.

The whole thing of explaining gynocentrism and Patriarchy happens within the bubble of the family structure in our society.

That is why it makes no sense to argue with a feminist. She only cares about what she wants. You might as well yell into the wind.

Every argument from a feminist benefits the woman and destroys the family under the justification of equity.

In a family dynamic the man and woman do not have the right to do whatever they want to do. Their actions have consequences.

Thus, an argument of patriarchy or gynocentrism when applied to the family structure can only be controlled from the family narrative.

When anyone uses their gender narrative it is bulls~~~.

I may be wrong, but I believe the crux of argument here is I believe every member of the family have to play their part. Even children have to face penalty if they don’t do their part.

You believe when children does not play their part is due to bad parenting, therefore absolving children of their responsibility and blame.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Badger wrote:

MGTOWers: Does this all remind you of arguing with a woman who always has to be right?

All day long.

Edit: Tower, that gif is f~~~ing great!!

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Gnostic wrote:

I may be wrong, but I believe the crux of argument here is I believe every member of the family have to play their part. Even children have to face penalty if they don’t do their part.

You believe when children does not play their part is due to bad parenting, therefore absolving children of their responsibility and blame

No Gnostic,

I believe that a child is a child. The boy will have to be a man soon enough.

When people argue about whether the man or woman have it better or worse I am saying neither is justified to do whatever they want to do if it causes the destruction of the family.

The only members of a family that have to play their part are the adult man and woman.

Now, when you look at society today there is no way a man can exist within the family system. The cost analysis fails when you use the children’s best interest as the basis. Look at the result in our society. The children we have are the result.

Peace brothers

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

DorkShit wrote:

Gnostic wrote:

I may be wrong, but I believe the crux of argument here is I believe every member of the family have to play their part. Even children have to face penalty if they don’t do their part.

You believe when children does not play their part is due to bad parenting, therefore absolving children of their responsibility and blame

No Gnostic,

I believe that a child is a child. The boy will have to be a man soon enough.

When people argue about whether the man or woman have it better or worse I am saying neither is justified to do whatever they want to do if it causes the destruction of the family.

The only members of a family that have to play their part are the adult man and woman.

Now, when you look at society today there is no way a man can exist within the family system. The cost analysis fails when you use the children’s best interest as the basis. Look at the result in our society. The children we have are the result.

I do not understand.

You disagree with me, then you say only the adult man and woman are required to play their part.
Which reinforce my statement that the crux of our argument is you believe when children need not play their part, therefore absolving children of their responsibility and blame. While I believe everyone have to play their part.

Not only because of the absence of a man, the attitude of society at large that pander to children without holding them responsibility is also a strong factor in turning them into entitled whinny SJW with Gimme, Gimme, Gimme mentality without ever thinking they should do something to earn it.

You cannot dismiss this video I link earlier as a fringe case like the false rape allegation of the daughter. Millions upon millions children today have this kind of mentality.

I would agree some leeway should be given to children due to their nature, but never absolving them from their responsibility totally. Infant do not need to play their part, but as early as children learn how to lie, they have to be held accountable and play their part. Even though it is as small as not causing trouble to the family.

Society today absolve women from their responsibility and make men sacrifice for them, see what monsters arises out of it.
Nobody should be entitled to anything, if you want something you have to earn it.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

I wouldn’t say that I disagree with you. It’s just that I take the child out of the equation of being responsible for the survival of the family.

You are placing a 20 something child into the equation of a family.

You are saying that she is now an adult and should be held accountable for her s~~~ perspective. I agree!

I am talking about a child within the family structure. Not the resulting piece of s~~~ spoiled brat.

My father said it the best. He would watch the video and say, “it’s not her fault, she shouldn’t be here.”

The problem is that she is here. And, there are lots of herssssss

She represents young women in her age bracket.

What I am saying is when you are a gender and you control the narrative to benefit you/your gender,age group, etc, your narrative is s~~~. (Exactly like that c~~~ in that video)

In a family bubble the paternal nor the maternal can justify the destruction of the family. Their narrative is s~~~.

The child is the narrative. But, the child has no voice, no protection.

That is mgtow. The understanding that within our current system it will not end well for a man nor the child, nor the woman.

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 22]

Just finished reading all 8 pages!

In the beginning I thought (s)he had some good posts but looks like his or her true colors finally came out.

[Right Coast CanadaParticipant 256]

“You do realize that I was talking about the past? You know, back when people lived in small villages and foraged and hunted. I wasn’t talking about today. I wasn’t speaking about modern times.”

“O YOU’RE MARRIED and trying to call yourself a MGTOW? Lmao. Then I don’t understand why you were saying I was telling you to get married.”

There was another post, I couldn’t find it. He/she basically explained that what the point was the disposability of males in society. Morning Star saw that as an acceptable measure whereas MGTOW disagrees vehemently. Smart but not brilliant, its even hard to believe the age but they’ve spent a lot of time online. Two years of reading MGTOW and can’t envision a married MGTOW? Sure is foul-mouthed and aggressive, hope it grows out of that.

If Morning Star was going to pen a paper about the historical meaning of gynocentrism and whatever he should have started a word document to get his thoughts in order first. Stop swearing so much, boy, learn to hang your hat up and relax.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

DorkShit wrote:

I wouldn’t say that I disagree with you. It’s just that I take the child out of the equation of being responsible for the survival of the family.

You are placing a 20 something child into the equation of a family.

You are saying that she is now an adult and should be held accountable for her s~~~ perspective. I agree!

I am talking about a child within the family structure. Not the resulting piece of s~~~ spoiled brat.

My father said it the best. He would watch the video and say, “it’s not her fault, she shouldn’t be here.”

The problem is that she is here. And, there are lots of herssssss

She represents young women in her age bracket.

What I am saying is when you are a gender and you control the narrative to benefit you/your gender,age group, etc, your narrative is s~~~. (Exactly like that c~~~ in that video)

In a family bubble the paternal nor the maternal can justify the destruction of the family. Their narrative is s~~~.

The child is the narrative. But, the child has no voice, no protection.

That is mgtow. The understanding that within our current system it will not end well for a man nor the child, nor the woman.

I would argue that because of the attitude of absolving the child of all responsibility, the child grew to that 20 something woman.

I am glad we can agree that nobody should control the narrative by gender / age / group. I only believe rewards should be given based on contribution, or future contribution in the case of the infant.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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