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I grew up in a rural area with dumb-asses all around. I was ostracized and picked on, and very lonely. Towards the end of high school, I met a non-redneck girl who actually accepted me. She was average looking, a bit chunky, lived like a slob, and not very intellectual. I made excuses for it all since someone finally accepted me, and also made excuses on why all of those conditions were temporary. We went to school in the nearest big city, but I had zero experience with women and was poorly adjusted socially, so I continued to date this girl. At the end of school, I was going to move away for the military. Due to inertia, I got married to take her with me. All the things I made excuses for…they got worse. I wasn’t the best socially adjusted, but she made me believe I was fundamentally flawed at a deep level. I’d do more and more until I was basically doing everything, with her only contribution being half the laundry, 30% of the income, cooking a few days of the week, and a pitiful f~~~ once a month when I’d swallow my pride to satisfy the urge. I f~~~ing hated life and often thought about ending it. I made no secret I hated this life and did not intend to live this way forever. I hoped she’d change, but options two and three were divorce and starting over or ending it. Then, I went on vacation solo once. I was a different person. People liked me, I made fast friends, and women the likes of which I didn’t even think were possible…fantasy women who were stunning, smart, and successful…were very attracted to me. It was transformative. I started to go my own way and, a few months later when she realized I hadn’t come crawling for sex in a couple months, suggested we do that later. I said I wasn’t interested and unless I see big changes soon, we’re getting divorced. She put in zero effort and hired a lawyer, despite our assets being 85% cash and investments. She quit her job and began to pursue alimony. She has no stomache for conflict though, so I told her I’d fight her until we spent our last dollar fighting over that last 15% plus alimony. We got the 50/50, more or less, that I expected.
I began pursuing that girl I met on vacation and it was a disaster. I still knew nothing about women. I began working on myself, and things came together REALLY fast as my fundamentals were solid; career, adventurous life, looks, intelligence, etc. so I just needed to work on my social skills and understand female attraction and I was good to go.
I’m not a MGTOW monk; I’m the kind of MGTOW who recognizes my own shortcomings in the woman I picked, and will learn and advance from my mistakes.
I have a cool place, go on awesome vacations several times a year, drive a fast BMW, and stay in good shape. It does attract women, and that’s great because I f~~~ing love women…the validation, the different perspective, but also the fulfillment of an innate biological drive. I’m 38 and still have to f~~~ pretty much every day or I feel kind of s~~~ty…sometimes several times per day. High sex drive. Men are designed to get satisfaction from fulfilling this drive; the trick is to just not hand your b~~~~ and life savings over in order to fulfill it. If you make yourself into an exemplary man, this is never necessary, even though some will do it anyway. I was juggling at least three women at a time for over a year, and it was awesome. Smart, fun women…not bar floozies who had nothing to offer but pussy, so they were also friends. They’d eventually want something exclusive, but all had one shortcoming or another so I’d turn them loose. One came along though who grew up as a Tomboy…seeing stereotypical feminity as weak and was kind of an ugly duckling, which helped her develop her other qualities. Now she has the same attitude, but looks like Jennifer Garner, only prettier (no exaggeration- people have told us that out of the blue, and a few weeks ago we were mistaken for Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck). She likes going backpacking, riding motorcycles, skydiving, exotic vacations, and is ridiculously funny for a woman. She likes hard-f~~~ing every day (and got an IUD as soon as we met- no baby blackmail is possible), is more comfortable keeping her own house, which she owns, and…oh yeah…absolutely, positively insists on paying her own way, all the time…even after a year and a half. She makes a 93% single income, I’m 97%…which is about 166% of what she makes. Since we spend the same amount, I just sock the rest away for MY retirement and will occasionally buy a new toy, like a $7000 mountain bike or 65″ TV. I decided to turn the other women loose because she just blew the rest out of the water and she was insecure about having them around. It was an unecessary insecurity, but I valued my time with her more than having multiple f~~~buddies, so that’s where I am right now by choice. I will never be pressured into marriage or kids, but it’s been a great year and a half with this girl, all on my terms with the sole exception of having multiple girls on the side, which I consider more of a tradeoff with more benefits than costs than an actual sacrifice. Be an exemplary man who doesn’t take s~~~ and you really can have it all, including a great woman. Women are half of humanity and have a lot to offer, and you don’t have to hand over your life to have positive experiences with them. MGTOW’s: living good is the best revenge. Do it, and you can dictate your own terms. It’s only needy betas who put the pussy on a pedestal who get walked all over. I should know; I learned that by experience.
… Though I think you may be a little lost on which side of the manosphere you wanted,
First let me congratulate you successfully standing up for yourself, dropping the dead weight wife and improving yourself. All good stuff.
It does attract women, and that’s great because I f~~~ing love women…the validation
While not being married is one of the few hard lines of MGTOW I say you may be a little lost because that’s more of a PUA mentality. While it is true MGTOW and PUA both add to add to understanding of female psychology and you can get the information to get ahead in the way your are from MGTOW material. Also it is true MGTOW does not forbid dating. But there isn’t really any interest in being validated by some cum dumpster in MGTOW.
You might find more of what your looking for on a PUA site or a Red Pill forum.
I get what you are saying about validation, but consider my perspective where I was coming from; my ex-wife led me to believe she was the best i could do since I had major flaws. Having multiple women, all quality and not cum-dumpsters, competing over me was very important to me at a time, and it’s always nice to feel desired. I’ve internalized it now though and am less dependent on external validation.
I know I’m a bit of an outlier here. It seems like a log of guys here are broken and extremely negative, so I thought I’d offer a different perspective.
Congratulations, and good job on finding a better life. I’m still working on getting a new life. I’m happy for you.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
<span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif;”><span style=”font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>Oh I do understand and my congratulations was real, I’m sure your ex did everything in her power to break you down and consider your fighting her off in the end a real victory.</span></span>
<span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif;”><span style=”font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>To clarify my prior comment a tad, I did not intend any assessment of the “quality” of the women you were now having, rather I was bluntly showing my personal valuation of the validation of any woman who does not have the authority to give me a performance review of some sort.</span></span>
<span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif;”><span style=”font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>This place may not be entirely as negative as you think. But their is a real mentality shift between the PUA perspective and the MGTOW perspective.</span></span>
<span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif;”><span style=”font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>I certainly don’t run the show here but here is a pair of threads that might be useful to you in getting a better feel for the place in view of where you’re coming from.</span></span>

Anonymous11Carves, you write as if you seemingly have things under control. However, you’d better watch your six as women are a sneaky bunch of little s~~~s and life can always turn on a dime. If that unicorn ever turns on you, watch out below as you are ripe for the plucking. Always remember that pride cometh before the fall.
Good luck, best wishes and may your unicorn on parade stay true.

Anonymous42No comment, welcome to MGTOW
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