Find out if she's cheating?

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Should a husband try to find out if his wife has been having some sort of an affair with a coworker before he calls it quits? If so, how does he go about doing it in your opinion?

[RoyDalParticipant]

Have him ask his divorce lawyer about evidence that is admissible in court.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

I’m calling [bearded] clam alert.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

PZ, you aren’t getting what you want and need form the marriage for some time. What makes you think that cheating will matter?

You are dealing with an abusive narcissist that doesn’t have sex with you. You don’t need her to be cheating. Either begin planning or begin acting, but quit raking yourself over the coals trying to find reasons to stay.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Ogre wrote:

PZ, you aren’t getting what you want and need form the marriage for some time. What makes you think that cheating will matter?

You are dealing with an abusive narcissist that doesn’t have sex with you. You don’t need her to be cheating. Either begin planning or begin acting, but quit raking yourself over the coals trying to find reasons to stay.

Ogre thanks man. I appreciate your reply. You know, you mentioned the word narcissist. I think you might be right. Most people would think I’m the narcissist. After all, I always loved attention. But after being married to my wife for years I do see narcissistic tendencies big time! And I mean big time! I’m not saying she’s a full fledged narcissist. But she does have many of the tendencies that I won’t bring up here.

You’re right. What does it matter if she is cheating, has cheated or hasn’t cheated at this point. The only thing that matters if I have the guts to end this abuse and neglect.

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

I’m calling [bearded] clam alert.

What does this refer to?

[chirParticipant]

Hrm…

Properly you should have asked “How can I find out if my wife is cheating”

We are anonymous here. (Clear the cache on your history and browsing) What? You think your wife isnt snooping on you? Women live to snoop. Gives them ammo to instigate drama. 🙂

Solomon may be onto something here.

If not. Use these…
GPS Tracker
If you suspect she is bringing in some c~~~ to your home use these.

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[pZ1$Participant 110]

chir wrote:

Hrm…

Properly you should have asked “How can I find out if my wife is cheating”

We are anonymous here. (Clear the cache on your history and browsing) What? You think your wife isnt snooping on you? Women live to snoop. Gives them ammo to instigate drama.

Solomon may be onto something here.

If not. Use these…
GPS Tracker
If you suspect she is bringing in some c~~~ to your home use these.

I always clear my cache. But she doesn’t. lol Never saw anything out of the ordinary except for a changed password and guarded phone and emails.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

sorry about the huge smiley face. Don’t know how it got there. Tried to edit it out but the edit button is gone.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

So the easiest way is to first: Snoop her phone.
2. put a voice activated recorder you can get from Best Buy or Amazon. Put it under her seat with some duct tape or double sided velcro strip/adhesive you get at walmart.

If either of these yield info that needs checking then you can hire a PI and get her with the goods.

If she is cheating it will empower you more during the divorce process. If confronted she may just give you the “out” you need without a fight. Also, a cheating wife doesn’t get alimony.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

PZ, let me try to put this in a little more perspective.

You posted on 2/4/2015:

pZ1$ wrote:

Men I need your help! I never thought I would seriously contemplate just getting up and running away from this BS called marriage. But enough is enough! Having a wife admitting to me the lack of feelings, respect and attraction she has for me is enough to say screw it all! And she was being nice about it! I am pathetic! My position in this world is unacceptable! Jobless, hopeless, this is not for me! People say dude you have to work on yourself before you can fix your marriage. Well I have been working on myself! And nothing is happening! No job, no change, nothing! Enough is enough! This is pathetic! Would it be so wrong if I just packed up and split? Is there a special place in hell for men who do such things? I think it would be better for me to get up and shake my world into reality rather than sit back and do nothing like a wuss! This ain’t cuttin it!!! Oh yea, having a teenage kid makes this situation all the more difficult. But I think she would be better off without someone like me in her life.

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She has continued to make you feel unwanted. If she’s cheating it would just serve as another reason to never touch her again and leave forever.

You have spent two years here deliberating on what you should do. Those could have been two years on the path to making yourself a better version of whatever you want instead of worrying about trying to please her to get in her good graces… hint, it won’t EVER be enough.

Menbers, this is long running mental and emotional abuse and neglect. No clam would ever spend the amount of time that PZ has been here on and off just to troll the forum. I’ve never met him, but we’ve interacted plenty to know that he’s a man who’s taken his first red pills but forgotten his dose plenty of times.

The thread from way back.
/forums/topic/i-need-to-escape/

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[BubParticipant 1406]

CombatRoll wrote:

Also, a cheating wife doesn’t get alimony.

No Fault Divorce says otherwise….
Be careful and check with YOUR lawyer in YOUR State before banking on this advice..

Just rolling down the road

[Anonymous 43]

Problem #1 is you are married.

Problem #2 if and when you get to divorce court, you will lose, automatically.

Problem #3 If you have kids, they will lose too, automatically.

Problem #4 Your financial life is done, for a while. You can rebuild, but it will take time.

Problem #5 Are you emotionally strong enough to lose your wife that you put time, money and effort into, your kids that you put time, money and effort into, your house that you put time money and effort into, 1/2 of your savings that you put time money and effort into? If not, then you had better find a way. You may not be interested in divorce, but divorce is interested in you.

Problem #6 Lawyer costs money, save up for a lawyer. Retainer for lawyer might be $5000.

Problem #7 She will invent s~~~, and the court will believe her. You need alibis and a daily journal of what you do, who you see, and what you buy. The journal I kept saved me from jail at least three times. I have receipts for every three to five hours of almost every day since July 2009. I have one very noticeable item I wear when I go shopping, so I can be more clearly identified on store video cameras. I spent $200,000 defending myself from made up s~~~ and protecting my children’s right to see me.

Problem #8 No matter what happens to her, you will always be Suspect #1.

Problem #9 She will perceive your snooping as invasive and abusive. You will get a smack down for this.

Problem #10 Here’s the killer. If there was nothing going on, and you went snooping, she will resent you for the rest of her life. If there is nothing there, do you think your marriage can continue as if nothing was wrong? She will know that you do not trust her, and once she has seen the extent of your snooping methods, she will figure out a way evade these snooping methods to f~~~ some random guy just to see if you are paying attention. She will be laughing at you inside her head every time she sees you. One day she will tell you what a fool you have been, then serve you with papers.

The second person to file is referred to as the defendant, the criminal. That matters hugely in court, dude. Plaintiff means “I have a complaint, I have been wronged.” Do you want to be seen as being wronged, or do you want to be seen as the criminal? Even when I had a complaint against the c~~~, I was always referred to as the defendant. Every f~~~ing time, I was fighting an uphill battle for everything. Ultimately I lost everything.

Either s~~~ or get off the pot dude. File on Monday. End your torment. Hell, end our torment…you have been here before sharing your misgivings, yet you are still with her.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

pZ1$ wrote:

Should a husband try to find out if his wife has been having some sort of an affair with a coworker before he calls it quits? If so, how does he go about doing it in your opinion?

If you think she is cheating aren’t you already to point that you don’t trust her.

Why don’t you just ask her. If you think you’re wrong and you’re just being paranoid and needy, then you will be afaid to ask.

If you want to play the game toss your phone in her car and track it online. Mute it first & make sure gps is on.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 0]

If you think she is cheating, she is.
It is no fault divorce which women asked for.
You are obviously not happy.
Give her what she asked for.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

I did ask her if she was having an A… of course she said no. But there have been small red flags. A man of the cloth as well as a shrink told me if there was something going on she would have ended it with me by now. Maybe, maybe not… The man of the cloth said as long as she is denying me the physical aspect of our marriage we do NOT have a marriage.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

I watched an interview with a private detective who was asked the very same question — “How do I know if my spouse is cheating?”

His reply was simple. He said that in all his years of investigating cheating spouses, he said that if you suspect that she’s cheating, then she IS cheating.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Problem #5 Are you emotionally strong enough to lose your wife that you put time, money and effort into, your kids that you put time, money and effort into, your house that you put time money and effort into, 1/2 of your savings that you put time money and effort into? If not, then you had better find a way. You may not be interested in divorce, but divorce is interested in you.

He’s already lost her. As Hominid wisely pointed out, if he thinks she’s cheating she’s already cheating and has been for a while.

As for losing the kids, house, and all the rest, he’s going to lose all that when she decides he should. If she’s cheating, she’s thinking about divorce. He’s staring down the muzzle of a loaded M198 155mm howitzer and his wife is playing with the firing lanyard. It’s not a question of “if” but of “when”.

pZ1$ – You need a lawyer now. You need to start planning now. You need to start saving now. Even if you don’t pull the trigger first, you need to be ready when she pulls it.

Your marriage is over. You need to start working on the life you’ll be able to fashion from the rubble. Good luck.

Problem #6 Lawyer costs money, save up for a lawyer. Retainer for lawyer might be $5000.

Problem #7 She will invent s~~~, and the court will believe her. You need alibis and a daily journal of what you do, who you see, and what you buy. The journal I kept saved me from jail at least three times. I have receipts for every three to five hours of almost every day since July 2009. I have one very noticeable item I wear when I go shopping, so I can be more clearly identified on store video cameras. I spent $200,000 defending myself from made up s~~~ and protecting my children’s right to see me.

Problem #8 No matter what happens to her, you will always be Suspect #1.

Problem #9 She will perceive your snooping as invasive and abusive. You will get a smack down for this.

Problem #10 Here’s the killer. If there was nothing going on, and you went snooping, she will resent you for the rest of her life. If there is nothing there, do you think your marriage can continue as if nothing was wrong? She will know that you do not trust her, and once she has seen the extent of your snooping methods, she will figure out a way evade these snooping methods to f~~~ some random guy just to see if you are paying attention. She will be laughing at you inside her head every time she sees you. One day she will tell you what a fool you have been, then serve you with papers.

The second person to file is referred to as the defendant, the criminal. That matters hugely in court, dude. Plaintiff means “I have a complaint, I have been wronged.” Do you want to be seen as being wronged, or do you want to be seen as the criminal? Even when I had a complaint against the c~~~, I was always referred to as the defendant. Every f~~~ing time, I was fighting an uphill battle for everything. Ultimately I lost everything.

Either s~~~ or get off the pot dude. File on Monday. End your torment. Hell, end our torment…you have been here before sharing your misgivings, yet you are still with her.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Y_Participant 4591]

Hi pZ1$

What does it matter if she is or not?
Look at all the s~~~ you have to put up with!!
Every f~~~in day.Why are you still around?

Is this what you want until they take you away to a home?
Or until she puts you out on the street?

Dump the bitch. What are you waiting for?

[Y_Participant 4591]

Hi pZ1$
can you teach me how to do that large smiley thing?
that is sooo coool like I almost shat myself

PS You still need to dump the bitch

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Y_ wrote:

Hi pZ1$
can you teach me how to do that large smiley thing?
that is sooo coool like I almost shat myself

PS You still need to dump the bitch

Hi Yumbo,
I don’t know how I did it. LOL It was an accident. lol

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