Don't Want Involvement but Seem Apathetic About Sex. What's the Point of Life?

[Anonymous 3]

I’ve found this community is very welcoming and is incredibly forgiving on tuna if anything. We give people a ton of rope. Just the tuna always hangs themselves with it, because quite frankly the type of person that would try to troll on here is a simpleton to begin with.

I don’t know how X11 managed to last so long, I think Key just refused to read those threads or something. But that’s an example of just how much leeway people get on here.

For someone to come in here and get outed within hours means they are just a very low level troll.

And it’s not like we haven’t had broken blue pill men here before. I can think of a dozen off the top of my head. But the thing was they were willing to discuss and learn and improve. Again, otherwise what’s the point of being here? If someone has brains and they’re female or blue pill, they just won’t post. And if they don’t, and they want to waste time trolling, it’s hard for them to hide it and to keep a charade going.

It takes a lot of discipline and intelligence to ghost. Clearly females and manginas can’t handle it. They can’t even handle it on a site like this. Meanwhile most of us have to live it every day at work or at school our entire lives, and we don’t blow our cover.

[FrankOneParticipant 1425]

First I’d cut back on drinking. I don’t drink at all, nothing wrong with it, but when you said EIGHT vodkas in a night, that is alcoholic behavior.

Second, if you are so obsessed with sex, and DON’T want to pay for it, you have to be social, get into shape, dress well, and be interesting to a woman — looks, money, status. I still advise strongly against marriage and cohabitation regardless.

Having lived years without a sex partner and years with, I would concur, it’s over-rated.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

Okay, this is ridiculous. I tried to back off, I realized I should not have posted so much. I am sorry about that.

But, while some of you meant well with your responses, too many of you posted things like this accusing me of not even being a man! Jesus! This is compassion?

I think the majority of you are guys who were screwed over in divorces, child custody, and false abuse accusations. And I am totally on your side. I have been screwed over in other ways, mainly rejection. I agree with your take on relationships. But where I differ is you expect me to accept a happy life without being able to get pussy. Again, I cannot stand women as people. I live in NYC. You should see how physically repulsive they are. But there ARE men who can walk into a bar, chat up a girl, and score. It does happen. A lot of people meet online and it works out.

Your advice is not bad. I admit being stubborn and yes, my depression is a major issue. I am not denying any of this. I understand your criticism of me. But I would be a liar to say I feel I can live a fulfilling life not being able to get women – not for a wife or serious relationship but for sex or a FWB situation. What is wrong with me for that? If I can go my own way, that is the way I WANT! And sorry, I do not understand a supposedly straight adult male who eschews sex with women because he feels he will be charged with rape – even in this environment, that is pretty out there, and – hate to say it – I can understand why some of your families must talk. That is reality, call it whatever color pill you wish.

Again, sorry for wasting your time. I am not a troll or tuna, as you so eloquently put it (I prefer c~~~ but then again I am old fashioned). I am very sad, I thought I found a “club” that I would fit in with, but I was obviously wrong.

I wish you all well.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

I prefer c~~~ but then again I am old fashioned

If the shoe fits…

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

, I thought I found a “club”

You thought incorrectly.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

But I would be a liar to say I feel I can live a fulfilling life not being able to get women – not for a wife or serious relationship but for sex or a FWB situation. What is wrong with me for that? If I can go my own way, that is the way I WANT!

Then go for it. But understand, you want pick up artist tips. You aren’t going to get them on this website. Go to a pick up artist website and get those tips there. Here is more about what you do BESIDES try to get into Mary Rottencrotch’s panties.

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

And sorry, I do not understand a supposedly straight adult male who eschews sex with women because he feels he will be charge with rape – even in this environment, that is pretty out there, and – hate to say it – I can understand why some of your families must talk. That is reality, call it whatever color pill you wish.

More than a few guys here have been falsely accused of domestic violence by their ex. I was lucky, mine only threatened me with committing perjury in a court of law to get her “fair” share. It cost me $20k but I realized that it was cheap in the grand scheme of things. So some of us have little different frame of reference when we talk about not trusting women. There are guys here that were thrown in jail when cupcake made the “one phone call”.

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

But where I differ is you expect me to accept a happy life without being able to get pussy. Again, I cannot stand women as people.

No one expects you to do anything. It’s your life. However, if you can’t stand women as people, why do you want to have sex with them? Personally I have to have a little caring for the person I’m sleeping with. But that’s just me. But I don’t think I could have sex with someone I couldn’t stand.

Order the good wine

[Fr JackParticipant 926]

I am still at a loss to understand what it is you want from us.

[Anonymous 42]

Boar wrote:

The upshot of this is we have probably helped the feminists: they now know how to trap their own cats (in case they already don’t have enough.)

That was COLD! Makes me want to bundle up!

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

A lot of people meet online and it works out.

Bulls~~~! POF is where single mother landwhales go to get attention so they can feel important. It’s a s~~~hole full of post wall thrashed, crashed, smashed, and bashed women! THE GARBAGE DUMP!

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

am very sad, I thought I found a “club” that I would fit in with, but I was obviously wrong.

I wish you all well.

You can’t bend this “club” to your line of “reasoning” we’re some of the most knowledgeable men on earth about the changes that have effected us negatively over centuries as men and our natural state of being has been altered and molested by the society and your kind of thinking. You won’t find happiness or fulillment in today’s modern liberated women, you will drift in the sea of hopelessness for all eternity thinking that way.

You’re a stubborn horse that refuses to drink.

[BoarParticipant]

Fr Jack wrote:

I am still at a loss to understand what it is you want from us.

As near as I can make it out, the OP is after affirmation. Based on the title of the thread and:

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

But I would be a liar to say I feel I can live a fulfilling life not being able to get women – not for a wife or serious relationship but for sex or a FWB situation. What is wrong with me for that? If I can go my own way, that is the way I WANT! And sorry, I do not understand a supposedly straight adult male who eschews sex with women because he feels he will be charged with rape – even in this environment, that is pretty out there, and – hate to say it – I can understand why some of your families must talk.

Misery loves company and he probably thought we were a bunch of frustrated INCELs as well. I guess our collective responses were overwhelming. Despite all this, I still hope that Eyes Wide Open has received something helpful from our efforts.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

I meant to say I CANNOT see myself living a fulfilling life but I think y’all got that.

[BoarParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Boar wrote:
The upshot of this is we have probably helped the feminists: they now know how to trap their own cats (in case they already don’t have enough.)
That was COLD! Makes me want to bundle up!

Its a good thing! Play the long game here. So when the SHTF and society collapses into the new dark ages, the feminists and cats will be eyeing each other trying figure out who is gonna eat who.

Store the popcorn for later, it will be worth it!

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[Anonymous 42]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

I meant to say I CANNOT see myself living a fulfilling life but I think y’all got that.

How can anyone live a fulfilling life while trying to fill themselves with that which has become empty?

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

I meant to say I CANNOT see myself living a fulfilling life but I think y’all got that.

How can anyone live a fulfilling life while trying to fill themselves with that which has become empty?

That’s come Jedi s~~~ right there.

I can’t get laid! Grief
I hate women! Anger
I don’t know how straight guys can just quit trying to get laid! Denial
I just want you guys to tell me how to pump and dump! Bargaining

Dude, you’re all over the map. Usually you can see guys here going through one of the five stages of grief if you look for it. But you seem to be going through four of the five stages all at once. Just my opinion, but to me that’s why you come across as scattered.

Some of us have passed through to acceptance. And once you get there, you move on.

Order the good wine

[Anonymous 43]

What the hell happened here? Why did this turn into a s~~~ storm?

Guy comes in here looking for answers, and y’ll took a dump on his forehead. I thought he was asking a good question.

He is looking for fulfillment in his life, same as the rest of us. The women in our lives, before they f~~~ed us over, filled a pretty big space in our lives.

I still haven’t found fulfillment in my life. It will be some time before I can get back to making stained glass windows. Until I find a workspace and buy materials and tools, I have to be content with sketching ideas and thinking about projects. I am trying to work out some details, and what new skills I need to acquire to make my ideas come to life. Not quite there, but I’m working on it.

OP, everyone is throwing advice at you. Look listen and learn. There is collective wisdom here.

Lose the booze, and get a hobby. I don’t drink, sober since 1987. My hobby is sketching swirly lines with colored pencils or doodling, looking for cool random ideas to translate into glass and lead.

Write out your goals and share them. My goals are get a job, run out the clock on my child support order, along the way, pick up certificates and skills needed for coding, save up money to buy an apartment complex. On days not working on coding or the apartment complex, work in a work shop, making stained glass windows. after a while, acquire more apartments. At some point the apartments reach critical mass, and I can live off that, maybe my glass making will pay for itself somehow, but doubtful. There. My goals. Easy to follow, takes time and effort to achieve, and 20,000 guys will be cheering me on.

Learn how women operate. understand them, do not love them. If you want them in your life again, that’s up to you.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

Thank you, may. A good deed in a weary world. Seriously appreciate it.

[Anonymous 1]

What’s the point in Life? The point is that you try and find out for yourself. Its a process that takes a whole lifetime.

Sex is certainly not a part of it.

Your depressed eh?

Try doing solitary confinement in a concrete box for 15 years, like some Men are doing right now. See what’s important to you then.

The answers are inside YOU, not inside some woman.

[Anonymous 14]

Anonymous wrote:

Guy comes in here looking for answers, and y’ll took a dump on his forehead. I thought he was asking a good question.

He was asking a good question, but no answers seemed good enough for him, in fact, it seemed like he scrolled right past most of them intent on continuing the one man pity party in his pants. Many here took the time to give advice, he just wants to cry like an angry INCEL instead of having to face reality. Fine by me, I won’t waste my breathe anymore when what I have taken the time to say is never responded to, disregarded, and ignored outright.

[Anonymous 42]

Oh good! May’s the Good Cop now! I can go back to being myself!

[JVBParticipant]

FrankOne wrote:

but when you said EIGHT vodkas in a night, that is alcoholic behavior.

Dammit !!!!!!!

Peace is > piece.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

I’m glad I could be your entertainment for today. I thought this would be a positive step forward. I feel worse than I did before discovering MGTOW. Yes, I have serious issues with depression. But I think after reading some of your plain mean comebacks I am more grounded than many of you. I think a lot of you are still as screwed up as me – and I am very screwed up. I live in the real world and it sucks and it’s painful and I cry but I don’t boil it down to one pill color.

[MrMeParticipant 651]

Calm your t~~~.
Go see a therapist.

get well

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