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I get that you are trying to emphasize your point, but that simply isn’t true.
Nope. Sorry. It’s 100% true. Men can’t have children. Not any more.
I’m not saying I have 100% control over my children but to claim kids never belong to the father is highly inaccurate.
Wrong. It is the 100% God’s Own Truth.
but they still often play a major role in their kids lives. I certainly do, and I am far from the exception.
BUT ONLY ON THE SUFFERANCE OF THE MOTHER AND AT THE PLEASURE OF THE STATE.
Just because you haven’t been cut badly yet doesn’t mean you’re not dancing on a knife edge. “Your” children can be taken away from you on a whim at any moment leaving you no recourse.
That means they are not yours. Not really.
I occasionally let my neighbor borrow my lawn mower. I suspect he gets more use out of it than I do. But that doesn’t make it his lawn mower. I can revoke that consideration at any moment because it’s my lawn mower, not his.
Father’s have always gotten the bill.
But Fathers used to get something in return for paying it. At the very least they used to get respect. Now they are looked upon with contempt by the women and courts who force that bill upon them for being the complete chumps they are.
I’m still going to stand by what I said. What would you guys rather have:
Option #1:
Manly toys or Man Cave décor: HDTV with 7.1 surround sound amplifier, bar, neon signs, tin signs, arcade/pinball, Pepsi or beer machine, vending machine, dart board, pool table, air hockey table, weight room, hobby or recreational room, nice car, nice home styled nice, power tools, license plates on the wall, neon pictures of hotrods or dogs playing Poker, swimming pool, hot tub with LED lights and MP3 player inside a gazebo, or other misc. décor? Another words, freedom, happiness, independence, dream-living, less stress, longer life, not obligated to anyone but yourself?Option #2:
Married with children (not the TV show): Screaming, pooping, massive cost, no legal rights, crying, bitching, lost of male dignity, high stress, frustrations, nag, nag, nag, nag, NAG, being unappreciated, unloved, taken for granite, being used, being poorly labeled by women, you’re guilty of everything whether you do/say something or not, and at least 18 year commitment to that kid(s). The list could continue on and on, but I don’t want to invest the next year listing all the things a wife and child would do to a man. I don’t have that kind of time.I would choose option #1 above any other option. Option #2 would kill option #1, which is the male dream by a super majority. Not only would I go with option #1, I’m saving up my money, which I did again today, and putting towards my real dreams, which is option #1. If a woman wants to be a part of my life, she will have to be more interesting and more appealing than anything I listed in option #1. The cost of both options maybe the same, but where would you rather put your dollars and cents towards? Not a tough question. But to each their own. I’m going with option #1 and I’m going to make it reality some day, or die trying.
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I regret not being a father. But then this feeling is mitigated by observations of how many children turn out when they grow up and what they do to their parents. Some children turn into criminals or serial killers. Others end up becoming addicts. And still others abuse their elderly parents.
Also there is the fact that I didn’t have good role models for parents, and lack a lot of skills needed for a marriage to stay intact.
Odds are I would have ended up divorced and paying child support with the mother weaponizing the kids.
Sometimes I think about having a surrogate child after I retire; and while I could afford it, it wouldn’t be fair to the kid since I would check out when he/she are in their 20’s.
So mostly I am resigned to just accepting my situation and literally sailing off into the sunset after I retire.
No regrets. Never desired to have children. Plus, the world is a s~~~hole, it’s better never to have been born.
This is one I’ve had to grapple with in the last 2 years. I’m 28, and I’ve never had children or a wife.
I have no interest in a wife or a girlfriend – ever. Fatherhood, on the other hand… I remain undecided.
If I do it will be through surrogacy and I will be choosing the gender. I think 2 sons would be nice provided I have a surplus of money and time to give them.
For now I’m just focused on becoming wealthy so I have that option in the future. I plan on revisiting this idea when I’m 35.
I’m actually insanely optimistic about the future. I think our current way of life is definitely crumbling, but new and improved systems are being built.
As feudalism was ending, it probably looked pretty bleak to most people. Today our industrial society is ending, and the concept of a nation-state will be irrelevant within 10-15 years.
The future of politics is not left vs right. It will be land vs cloud.
Not my property... Not my problem
No kids, no regrets.
It takes a lot of time, energy & money to raise children properly. What benefit do i get from that?
I mean, I enjoy teaching kids who are well-behaved & engaged. But those kinds of kids are rare. And i only enjoy doing it for brief periods of time. Being a 24×7 father & dealing w/little kids crapping their diapers & crying & screaming & arguing all the time is too high of a cost to pay for the kodak moments.
I’m 36, got a vasectomy about a year ago. One of the best decisions i’ve ever made.
No kids, no regrets.
I’m 36, got a vasectomy about a year ago. One of the best decisions i’ve ever made.
Very smart.
By the way, I was told that in order to get a vasectomy, you need a wife’s permission to do that, even if it is your body and you have to of had a child of your own. Maybe that’s just Illinois law.
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Interesting answers from everyone. Enjoyed reading them.
Nope. Sorry. It’s 100% true. Men can’t have children.
Sidecar is correct.
It’s not really a moral question. It’s a LEGAL question.
The only children a man can have are the children a woman ALLOWS him to have. So his personal regrets play no role in it.
A MGHOW I spoke with on a Google hangout (for hours) is permanently separated from his 3 children forever. What he “regrets” plays no role in it. He regrets never seeing them again.
Technically – and legally – a man can’t regret not having any kids. Since he can’t choose to have them. Male parental rights are non-existent and are only on loan by the mother.
It’s as hypothetical as asking “what kind of house would you build on Mars?”.
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A married Ex-girlfriend of mine once wrote at Christmas – sending a baby picture – and said “you should really have a kid”. What a completely thoughtless thing to say.
If she thought that about ME…. then she thought that about her own husband too.
“he should really have a kid”.
That kind of statement is spoken by women – whether he wants one or not.
She didn’t even phrase it like a question.AND WHY?? BECAUSE IT’S NOT A QUESTION FOR HIM.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Technically – and legally – a man can’t regret not having any kids. Since he can’t choose to have them. Male parental rights are non-existent and are only on loan by the mother.
Exactly my point.
However male parental responsibilities are as strictly enforced as always. Just as he can’t choose to have a child, so too he can’t choose not to pay for a child, even if that child isn’t his.
Women have all the reproductive rights and none of the responsibilities. Men have all the reproductive responsibilities but none of the rights.
It doesn’t take much to see how that inequality will inevitably cause a society to implode.
A married Ex-girlfriend of mine once wrote at Christmas – sending a baby picture – and said “you should really have a kid”.
Translation: “You should have a giant liability chained to your neck for the next eighteen years for the benefit of some woman.”
This is a question for MGTOWs who have never had children.
I am older and never had children and never regretted it.
Somewhere as I aged I began to help younger people, men or women. It made me feel like a parent to them. I have these relationships today wit a guy 25 years old and one 30.
Life is great
Do you feel you’re missing out on the experience of fatherhood?
Nope.
I really wouldn’t want my kids to go to public schools, ’cause they seem more like prisons than learning environments.
The purpose of “education” is to create loyal wage slaves. Everything I really learned I found out on my own.
Besides this society has gone complete FUBAR – pretty unhealthy environment for a kid to grow up.
I know what you mean. When I was growing up, my parents hardly ever cursed. The only time I heard my parents curse was when there was a serious crisis going on. These days, I hear people casually cursing in public and it makes me cringe. I wouldn’t want my kids to listen to their filthy mouths. Seriously, can’t I stand in line at the grocery store or the bank without someone saying “f~~~?” They even say it in front of their own kids. Maybe I’m old-fashioned, but most adults wouldn’t talk that way in front of me during my childhood.
I’m not a prude, I just think there’s a time and a place for that kind of foul language. If I’m sitting in a nightclub, or having a private conversation away from the crowd and their kids, I don’t mind people cursing. I just wish people had the decency to keep their adult conversations PRIVATE!
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
A married Ex-girlfriend of mine once wrote at Christmas – sending a baby picture – and said “you should really have a kid”. What a completely thoughtless thing to say.
I agree. That’s like telling someone, “You should really have more drama and financial burdens in your life.” Tell that lady to mind her own business!
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Anonymous3I’m actually insanely optimistic about the future. I think our current way of life is definitely crumbling, but new and improved systems are being built.
As feudalism was ending, it probably looked pretty bleak to most people. Today our industrial society is ending, and the concept of a nation-state will be irrelevant within 10-15 years.
The future of politics is not left vs right. It will be land vs cloud.
The problem is the oligarchs don’t want to let it go, and are desperately holding onto the current system.
The only way change ever happens is when a rising society is strong enough to brush away the entrenched interests with a superior way of life. That is also what aids the expansion of said empire, because new citizens are eager to embrace that superior life over their crappy current rulers.
It’s hard to predict that on the horizon, and I don’t even know that it can happen what with the current modern shadow banking industry backed by the US military industrial complex stamping out any possibly competition. But I suppose that next great weapon and advancement could quickly brush that advantage and power away.
But I will say that I think the idea of stable employment is a hilarious joke now, especially with the insistence of women in the workplace and a two person working family, along with women’s hypergamy and affirmative action screwing things up.
I think one country in the world is going to a UBI model. If consumer spending is really as important as modern economists claim it is, UBI will happen sooner rather than later, and it is essentially communism. Otherwise the financials don’t make a lick of sense and eventually everything will just collapse. I expect things to collapse though, and a smooth UBI transition not to happen.
I suspect also I will probably just die or something during this widespread revolt whenever it happens.
Option #1:
Manly toys or Man Cave décor: HDTV with 7.1 surround sound amplifier, bar, neon signs, tin signs, arcade/pinball, Pepsi or beer machine, vending machine, dart board, pool table, air hockey table, weight room, hobby or recreational room, nice car, nice home styled nice, power tools, license plates on the wall, neon pictures of hotrods or dogs playing Poker, swimming pool, hot tub with LED lights and MP3 player inside a gazebo, or other misc. décor?The only thing I have on that list is a neon sign.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Option #1:
Manly toys or Man Cave décor: HDTV with 7.1 surround sound amplifier, bar, neon signs, tin signs, arcade/pinball, Pepsi or beer machine, vending machine, dart board, pool table, air hockey table, weight room, hobby or recreational room, nice car, nice home styled nice, power tools, license plates on the wall, neon pictures of hotrods or dogs playing Poker, swimming pool, hot tub with LED lights and MP3 player inside a gazebo, or other misc. décor?The only thing I have on that list is a neon sign.
What is it a sign of, and what does it say? The only neon sign I have now is a blue one that says SEGA. I want to get another one soon that reads PINBALL, and I like to get one to represent my only beer preference which is Coors Light.
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After seeing so many men ruined by child support, courts that refuse to enforce visitation or custody rights….
After seeing so many children being used as pawns and hostages by their mothers, weaponized against their own fathers….
How is it possible to have any regrets of sparing myself and a child those things and more ?
The real question to me is this:
Do you regret being a father ?
Frank V.
I consider marriage and parenthood as the top cop out approaches people use to find meaning for their lives. As a man in his late 40s, never married, and with no kids, I find pondering the question about meaning in life, beyond this shortcut, to be a very rewarding question to ponder, and solid answers to be of far greater value to the world than the pass the buck to another generation that parenthood and marriage do. If it works for you, that is fine. Just not for me. For myself, I don’t own a pet, and I don’t feel a need to bring a kid into the world either.
Edit, I just saw the corporate pitch on the awesomeness of being a dad, and it didn’t do anything for me:
I see it is just as likely the kids will end up hating your guts and being hell for you.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
If I ever be a father, it’ll be entirely on my terms. Otherwise, no. In the meantime, I intend to get rich.
If I ever be a father, it’ll be entirely on my terms. Otherwise, no. In the meantime, I intend to get rich.
That’s a better idea. Get rich and buy yourself your dreams and happiness. A wife and kids are just an unneeded expense that follows you forever and serves no purpose.
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