Do You Ever Regret Not Being A Father?

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

This is a question for MGTOWs who have never had children. Do you feel you’re missing out on the experience of fatherhood? Or does the thought of raising a child make you sick? Personally, I’ve never been excited about having a baby (and I don’t know many guys who feel that way either). I just don’t think babies are cute. When kids get older, they can be fun to be around, though. Sometimes I think being an uncle or a Big Brother is a fair substitute for my lack of fatherhood. When I’m at family reunions, I like to spend time with nieces and nephews. It’s fun to do stuff with them like, playing baseball or playing board games. My best friend has a daughter and sometimes I’ll bring her a toy when I visit.

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have kids of my own. If I did, I know I’d be a proud father watching them pursue their interests. They may be into art, sports, music, etc. Whatever it is they want to be in life, I’d encourage them to go for it. I’d give them all the wisdom I’ve learned from living my life and then I’d tell them to read books to learn stuff beyond what I can teach them.

Although it’s a nice fantasy to imagine myself showing my son how to play sports, the reality of being a dad, in this modern society, is discouraging. Here in America, boys seem to be penalized for being who they are: naturally rowdy, full of energy, and full of mischief. Those character traits are not welcome in a school environment. I really wouldn’t want my kids to go to public schools, ’cause they seem more like prisons than learning environments. I’d rather hire a tutor. If I had a daughter, I wouldn’t want her to go on dates until she’s 18. But you can’t shelter kids in this world.

Another problem with being a parent: the cost. It costs a lot to buy food & clothes. And then you have to spend money on health care and school activities. I can barely afford to pay for my own life. And then there’s a loss of personal freedom. You have to watch over kids to keep them out of trouble. Sometimes parents will drop their kids off at a friend or relative’s house just to get a mental break. It takes a lot of patience to be a parent and sometimes I can be an impatient person. So I’ll just remain single.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Do You Ever Regret Not Being A Father?

FunInTheSun, you do not realize that in this day and age, in most cases, this is a trick question. Even if a man helps to conceive a child, society does not allow that man to be a father to that child.

But, that man sure as hell has to pay for everything for that child, while getting no benefits of raising that child, and all it take is missing one monthly payment for him to go to jail, without trial, for the rest of his life.

Do I regret about not being a father? No. Regret would imply the situation is within my control. It is not. Am I bitter about society not allowing me to be a father? Hell yes.

And no. I do not have any children.

[Maraudrz1Participant 2250]

I have never had children. For most of my life I was a drunk and poor. I decided that until I stopped drinking and make sufficient money I would even get married let alone have children. I didn’t quit drinking until I was in my late 40’s and by that time it was too late to really start a career and make enough money to support a family. I had only a high school education and anything that would support a family on anything I could make would be simply insufficient. While, like you, I could play and maybe pass on a bit of wisdom to other people’s children I found myself getting tired of them rather quickly. That short time I could bear being with children and the shortness of my temper influenced my continuing decision not to have children.

There are times when I wish I had had children but when I remember what influenced my decision not to have any, why I didn’t have any. I am now 63 and there are times I regret not having children and most of the rest of the time I am glad I didn’t. I am not absolutely certain what kind of father I would have been but I think I would have been a so-so father.

Hope this helps.

Women's brains and vagina have one thing in common. There is nothing in there until a man puts something in there.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I love my son but regret being a father.

Big mistake.
When she came knocking at my door i should have not answered.

I should have just let her be served with divorce papers and gone on with my life.

She was trying to get pregnant so she could keep her claws in me .

Ill say that again

She was trying to get pregnant so she could keep her claws in me.

Thats all she was doing.

Using that pussy as a weapon.

Women use sex to manipulate .

Women use sex to manipulate.

Understand??

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Oz-BlokeParticipant 3233]

Nope, no regrets in the slightest. Minus income-tax, my take-home pay is all mine –

#ManOut

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Never have, never will.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

The way I see it, regretting not having children is like regretting not having walked on the surface of the sun. I’ve never been given a choice to walk on the sun, and it’s impossible to do it anyways. So it is for men having children.

Men can’t have children. They are their mother’s children. They are the village’s children. They are the state’s children. They are never the father’s.

All the father get is the bill.

And through some careful planning and self discipline I have never gotten that bill.

Do I regret never getting that bill?

HELL NO!

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Maraudrz1 wrote:

Hope this helps.

Thank you for your reply. One thing that concerns me about fatherhood is: not being able to teach my kids how to make large amounts of money. I’ve had a life of odd jobs, and I’ve never made a good sum of money. I’d want my kids to make smarter decisions with their time and money.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[OldBillParticipant]

If I could have had children without involving a woman, I would have done so in a heartbeat. As Sidecar wisely posted, these days children are never belong to the father. Hell, more and more often children aren’t even genetically linked to the poor bastard legally named as the father.

I envy younger MGTOWs for many things and one of them is their opportunity to have children without involving a woman. Apart from becoming more accepted, paid surrogacy is growing both easier and cheaper every year.

I also firmly believe I’ll see functioning “uterine replicators” or mechanical wombs in my life time. Whether they’ll be certified for human use is another question, but the technology is advancing quickly.

Young MGTOWs will have reproductive advantages I could only dream of and I hope they all take full advantage of them.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Let me start by saying I love my daughter and would give my life for hers.

However, if I had a time machine …. I would go back and wear a rubber.

It’s not my daughters fault but by being born she … via her mother … and the courts .. showed just what little worth I was as a father. How few laws are for dads and how she can be used as a weapon.

The big lie is there is no mothering instinct …. look at the abortion rate.

There IS a fathering instinct. You only have to see what men give up or concede to get a few hours with their kids.

I never ever hit my ex but in order to see my daughter, I had to promise the court I wouldn’t.

That little gem lost me two jobs.

I would advise not to have .. but if you do … the kids not yours … unless mum goes nuts like my daughters did.

Finally, I would be retired now and doing god knows what mischief.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Nope, never, not even once.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

My Father told me aged 13 never get married and never have children. I screwed up on the marriage part but had a vasectomy several years ago so I’m 100% certain to keep the second part.

I think it is more important not to have children than not to get married. You can walk away from a wife but you can’t from kids.

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I’ve never regetted not having children at all.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Given how f~~~ed up the world is right now I’d say no.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[mp357Participant 531]

i dont regret not having kids. i look at it as if i had a son i would be hamstrung by his mother and society in general about teaching him anything masculine. if i have a daughter she would be programmed into princess mode and be another mindless drone. fighting either of these outcomes would be very hard.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

It is my biggest wish to have at least 1 child, but there are so many reasons to not have children in the world were living in that Im not going to procreate.
Also you have no say about your kids, because they are property of the state basically.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FunInTheSun wrote:

Do you feel you’re missing out on the experience of fatherhood?

I remember being 21 and saying fatherhood appealed to me (for a long time) but not marriage. Father, yes. “Husband” no.

Two women told me they were pregnant. One I think may have been lying. The other I know definitely was. She also aborted. Nothing I could do about that. The kid would be 22 today. Never married.

I love kids, and kids love me. I think they would crack me up every day. But not before 2. I look at an infant and wonder what the hell I am supposed to do with that. When someone asks “do you want to hold the baby?”… the answer is “no thanks. Call me when it stops crapping its pants and it’s all fine”.

I don’t regret it, because It’s damn near impossible to discipline them properly. If you put your foot down, you’re an evil monster. Just try it with a grown woman and watch what happens.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

sidecar wrote:

The way I see it, regretting not having children is like regretting not having walked on the surface of the sun. I’ve never been given a choice to walk on the sun, and it’s impossible to do it anyways. So it is for men having children.

Men can’t have children. They are their mother’s children. They are the village’s children. They are the state’s children. They are never the father’s.

All the father get is the bill.

And through some careful planning and self discipline I have never gotten that bill.

Do I regret never getting that bill?

HELL NO!

well said. They are never a Mans children.They can be stripped away from you. You will not be allowed to see them. They will be turned against you and will not want to know you as adults. Men cant have children. My self i never had the desire to have them, but i must admit i feel left out of being a grandfather. Oh well i guess you cant have one with out the other.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

I like kids, and i like the ideia of having a small version of me around.

I have a great father but my stay at home mother is a pain in the ass for my father, nag nag nag, i want more money.

This days, you cant be a father to your kids, youre just a sperm donor that has no rights and all the responsabilities.

[HawkeParticipant 197]

I like kids in general but never felt any special need to have one. Also my life goals lie quite elswhere. So then – no. I don´t regret a thing. Besides this society has gone complete FUBAR – pretty unhealthy environment for a kid to grow up.

Qui audet adipiscitur - Who dares, wins

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