Dilemma…

[AFTParticipant 2722]

I must admit, with the limited exposure I have with women now, I am disappointed that every time they open their stupid mouths some biased feminist nonsense or ugly slutty reveal is presented, how did I ever put up with them in the first place?

Now that I’m aware and sensitive to the misandry all over, I’m focused on getting myself to financial freedom, and a life involving cars, bikes, booze, and the pursuit of the hedonistic lifestyle.  Its good to be free.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Note the lie at the end:

Anonymous wrote:

The close connection between the two organizations insured the philosophy of the WCOC was grounded in the equal rights of women.

Not being drafted like men is NOT equal rights as men.

This piece has the gall to applaud those women for upholding the special privilege of freedom from the draft for women and then IN THE VERY SAME PARAGRAPH lies and calls it equality.

It’s like what I was getting at in the mosquito comment. We aren’t anti-women. We are anti-dishonesty. We are anti-injustice.

So, @bladerunner, why are you pro-injustice? Why are you pro-dishonesty? Why are you pro-mosquito?

[PokeParticipant 10]

Yes, I agree. I don’t hate women, but I won’t put up with their bulls~~~ either. But, you are correct, about them just ranting and raving and having nothing to back it up. We need to realize that there are men who are also emotional and don’t back up what they say objectively. They only emotionally yell at whatever feeling they have at the moment. So, as you say, we need to call them out and tell them to be specific so that everyone on the blog can understand their dilemma and will be able to agree or disagree intelligently with them or not. If they do not respond back with intelligent specific examples of what they are attempting to say, say no more!

[BladerunnerParticipant 11]

I’m not pro mosquito, I simply don’t fault the mosquito for being a mosquito nor will I ever expect a mosquito to behave like anything other than a mosquito. Life is easier that way and yes, I had to get stung before coming to that realization. I am having a hard time comprehending why that is so difficult to understand and an even harder time how some of you relate that to being a mangina. I have no idea what the current slang is for guys acting like women but I resent the feeling I get when having to justify my position because people read s~~~ into it that isn’t there. Feels a lot like being married all over again.

 

Good luck with the movement, it’s not for me, I’ll go my own way.

sidecar wrote:

Note the lie at the end:

We are anti-injustice. So, @bladerunner, why are you pro-injustice? Why are you pro-dishonesty? Why are you pro-mosquito?

[Gen.OivanParticipant 88]

I haven’t posted in a while been busy with work going on vacation for a few weeks but I still read the forums everyday; now to post an opinion

when people come this forum or when out in the world and I hear some white knight/mangina say “Wow all MGTOW are bitter/angry/resentful and hate women” it really  boils my blood a lot. I cannot really fathom any more how people can be so blind as to what is going on around them. Woman are literally calling for the death of men, or are trying to clasp the shackles back to our ankles. When a man really opens his eyes and see’s what is going on he is some how the embittered hateful person.

Coming to this website I did not know what to expect, and yes I saw the people who were angry, like Robin Williams those men “had their b~~~~ ripped out through their wallets” and they have every right to be angry. Hell I have made it known if I was forced to pay alimony I would just tell the judge to lock me up because no bitch was ever going to get a dime from me, I would rather rot in prison,  or I would just go ghost and live on the trails for the rest of my life;

However through the anger of those men I have been able to take my red pill and see the lie that I have been living for over 30 years, the anger and passion that has flowed out of men who have been wronged by lying, manipulative, cheating, c~~~ hopping whores has helped me to educated myself and  how to counteract the deceitfulness of women and their white knights. I have seen first hand the hurt caused by women and their “unhappiness” I have seen 2 marriages dissolve because the man was working hard to provide a home, food, cars, and toys for the wife and kids; both of these men were re-payed for that hard work by having the wife drive off with the youngest to some random guys house, ride his c~~~ for a few hours, come home and then nag him for not earning enough money, not working hard enough,and then they were required to cook, and clean because she was exhausted from f~~~ing all afternoon.

The best part is through the court system these men were required to pay for their whore ex wives for years in alimony and child support, all because the man was working his ass off to provide for his family and the wife was an unhappy stay at home harpy.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Bladerunner wrote:

I have no idea what the current slang is for guys acting like women but I resent the feeling I get when having to justify my position because people read s~~~ into it that isn’t there. Feels a lot like being married all over again.

AH! And,…. there you go. Now you know what it’s like for others. You should have expected that.

Sure, during the course of my divorce I was p~~~ed, each time I write my alimony check …..I simply don’t give a f~~~ about what women do, think or want.

Now imagine while you’re signing that check, a bunch guys came to you and said:
“I’m surprised at the amount of anger/bitterness you have over alimony. It’s only money”.

We’re here to understand you, and perhaps even save some guy out there the anguish (and money) involved with writing monthly alimony checks. But giving a f~~~ is why we exist. If I just “went my own way” and “didn’t give a f~~~” this place wouldn’t even be here. Giving a f~~~ saves lives. Your welcome back any time you’re ready to give a f~~~. But you pay for the right not to with a monthly payment, so you certainly have the right not to.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[chirParticipant]

Bladerunner wrote:

Good luck with the movement, it’s not for me, I’ll go my own way.

If you stir the pot expect some bubbling.

As far as a “movement”  here is a definition of social movement.  “Thus we define a social movement as a form of political association between persons who have at least a minimal sense of themselves as connected to others in common purpose and who come together across an extended period of time to effect social change in the name of that purpose.”

That is about as far from MGTOW as you can get.  MGTOW have in common our found awareness that society defines a mans worth only through a woman and children.  We say no and try to get other men to look up, and see they have a choice.  What they do with it from that point on is up to them.   We are not out to change society or politics.   MGTOW are going to live our lives for ourselves and make it as interesting as we can while letting other men know that there are choices even in this rigged game.

 

YES!!!  That!!  Go your own way!!

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Anonymous 1]

NAMALT (Not All Mosquitos Are Like That)

[chirParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

NAMALT (Not All Mosquitos Are Like That)

LOL…  Ah that almost made me shoot beer out my nose.  Good one.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

Been busy lately and so I’m late to this discussion.  Blade, help me out here.  You wish unspecified amounts of harm each time you write that alimony check…  but you don’t give a s~~~ to the point that it even registers…?  Does it register or not?

Make up your mind, dude.  Do you give a s~~~ that you are already being robbed, or not?  Do you give a s~~~ about all the other would-be robbers standing in line to take your money, or not?

Perhaps being robbed doesn’t register on your emotional scale, so you are surprised that it registers as bitterness on ours?  I suggest that either you have not been robbed enough, or that you don’t value your money much.  If it’s the former, you may praise yourself for your good luck, but don’t criticize others who haven’t been so blessed.  If you are surprised at the amount of bitterness you find here, it’s very likely that you underestimate the degree of robbery and fraud that produced it.

And if it’s the latter… that you just don’t care much about the money, then by all means the next time you write one of those checks, make out a second  one to me and send over the cash.

 

No.  No, scratch that.  Don’t send me a check.  I got another idea: I’ll just walk up to you on the street, smile at you for a short time as though I give a s~~~ about you, then reach into your pocket and take the money from you by force, then call you defective and blame you for the robbery I just committed…on the premise that you owed it to me anyway.  Perhaps I’ll take your house, your legal rights and your children in the process.  Maybe I’ll have you thrown in jail for good measure.  I’ll keep taking from you, and blaming you for it, until you have nothing left.

Anywhere in the process, you can let me know when the idea of this starts to inspire some bitterness or anger…

You may in fact be lucky enough never to have had the experiences I just described.  But you are in a forum filled with men who have.  I am similarly lucky never to have had those experiences… but I am surprised that there is not much more bitterness here than there is.

 

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[SteveParticipant 462]

“Oh look the mosquito has the knife in her hand again”… “That’s ok son that’s just the way all mosquitoes are”.

My tuna senses were tingling from the start.

[vincentosaurusParticipant 147]

chir wrote:

BadKan wrote:

NAMALT (Not All Mosquitos Are Like That)

LOL… Ah that almost made me shoot beer out my nose. Good one.

I actually did get some nose brew, brilliant. If I were a feminist I’d be mad at you for not putting a “trigger warning” for “may cause beer in your nose”

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Bladerunner wrote:

I’m not pro mosquito, I simply don’t fault the mosquito for being a mosquito nor will I ever expect a mosquito to behave like anything other than a mosquito.

And you’re not swatting that mosquito.

So you ARE pro-mosquito.

Meanwhile MGTOW are cooking up their own mix of DEET and DDT. Sure it tastes a little bitter. It is an alkaloid after all. But it sure keeps the blood sucking parasites away.

Good luck with the movement,

It’s not a movement. Why do you have so much trouble understanding that?

Anonymous wrote:

NAMALT (Not All Mosquitos Are Like That)

Technically that’s true.

The MALE mosquitoes don’t bite. Only the female ones suck blood.

[BladerunnerParticipant 11]

That’s the part I left unwritten and I figured would be taken for granted, especially on this forum; I do swat the mosquito.

What I don’t do:

• Try and reason with or about the mosquito
• Apply/expect standards to/from the mosquito simply because I would like them to behave a certain way
  • This seems to be the tone of most of your replies here: Stating that women are horrible creatures, BUT professing a desire, need or expectation for them to behave according to your unrealistic expectations anyway. Wake up guys, THEY WON’T. I hear you say it but don’t think you’ve fully accepted that yet.
• Yell at/about the mosquito
• Act surprised when I get stung, it’s what they do!
• Fault the mosquito for being a mosquito, it just is

Lots of double talk in this thread about women (and please don’t go juvenile on me with some form of ‘you’re with us or against us bulls~~~). Many of the replies both insinuate women are incapable of being who we want them to be (my opinion) yet want to hold them accountable for not meeting standards you shortly before professed they are incapable (not simply unwilling) to meet.

So yeah, I haven’t quite given up reasoning with guys although having to explain myself on an issue this obvious does feel reminiscent of being in a relationship with a woman.

BR

 

 

sidecar wrote:

Bladerunner wrote:

I’m not pro mosquito, I simply don’t fault the mosquito for being a mosquito nor will I ever expect a mosquito to behave like anything other than a mosquito.

And you’re not swatting that mosquito. So you ARE pro-mosquito. Meanwhile MGTOW are cooking up their own mix of DEET and DDT. Sure it tastes a little bitter. It is an alkaloid after all. But it sure keeps the blood sucking parasites away.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

You have mistaken MGTOW as a community with nothing but enlightened ascetic monks, a virtual heaven. That was your first mistake – not understanding The Way to enlightenment, with expectations placed on others. We, as men, are just as much “as is” as a woman, so coming into this forum and expecting to find men “not as they are”, is, yes, “like having a relationship with a woman”, where you expect us to be what we are not.

You have found a path of indifference to women – many men have not. Many men are left in ruin and dead because of their failure to “understand the game” as you put it. This is a place for men to discuss what is bothering them and to gain knowledge before making what could be a life altering or deadly mistake. If you do not understand that, I question not only your indifference in GYOW, but I question your love of other human beings, especially men. That was your second mistake, is attempting to tell other men they do not deserve a space to share their stories, desires, or frustrations.

TLDR: F~~~ off and don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

There’s plenty of room for you here, Bladerunner.  Just don’t criticize everyone else for not thinking precisely the way you do.  After all, your views evolved to where they are now.  We have to leave room for freedom and evolution for everyone else.  Hate is part of the process.  It passes with time and knowledge and reflection.  Go if you must, stay if you want, just help if you can.  We are literally saving lives here, just as mine has been saved.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Dude, there is no reason to humor this troll any further. “Hey guys I am at a dilemma, but instead of reading more and figuring things out for myself like the intellectual I claim to be, I am going to come to your forum and attempt to make you cater to my expectations”. It reeks of entitlement. We don’t need to sell mgtow to any man. The truth is evident. If a man wants more of it he continues reading, and if he values it, he contributes. Enough of this f~~~ing pandering.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Even Robert Paulson became an excellent space monkey.  lol

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

“hey, I am not gonna judge that scorpion by the fact that every f~~~ing scorp I encounter stung me to f~~~. No, I am going to be a fair-minded gentlemangina and assume that scorp has a benign nature, and go pet its back. NASALT, baby,NASALT.”

ahahahaah this is golden.But in all seriousness i think the keymaster’s new approach is the best one, just ask them to give you a specific issue that mgtow creates for anyone and refuse to explain anything until they’ve done that.Otherwise you’re all stuck explaining to these concern trolls how we aren’t the spawn of Ktuhlu for not being masochists.

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