Curious about MGTOW members' attitudes towards family

[Anonymous 1]

And just to end this once and for all, if the C~~~ (previously known as Bob) is still reading this, here go to this thread:

/forums/topic/i-need-advise-please/

And read Lodoss story. And try telling him how he is NOT a MGTOW because he is a father, and how was WORTH it to have a kid… Just to watch him being taken away from him and used as a weapon against him.

Here is his latest response:

Heath wrote:

I find it difficult to think so many Men could say just walk away from a Child. I’m new here, and my Mother and Father split when I was 6, I never saw my Father again until I was 23, he wanted to see me and I agreed, but when we met I felt distant towards him, he said something along the lines of “I guess your Mother has told you things about me”, I knew he was thinking she had bad mouthed him etc, but it was quite the opposite, she basically put the fault of the situation on herself and said nothing bad about him at all. I tried to explain this to him, but he kept implying I was lying, like I was trying to protect him from the truth. This made me angry, he didn’t seem to understand the reason I was distant towards him, was because he left me, like I was nothing to him, no phone calls, no cards, no nothing. After that meeting I vowed never to see him again, he clearly had anger towards my Mother, and was still in the frame of mind of blaming her for his life and how crappy our relationship had become. Walking away from him was one of the best decisions I have ever made, it felt great to get rid of that disappointing ghost that haunted my life for 17 years. I guess the point I am trying to make is, if that Child is yours, if you feel anything for it, and you think you’ll regret walking away from it somewhere down the line, then I would try my hardest to be in its life, but that is coming from a man that has lived through a Father that just didn’t give a s~~~.

Good luck with everything, I hope it all works out for you, whatever decision you make. Peace.

Lodoss wrote:

Try my hardest to be in his life? how? by having a supervised visit two hours every month? while some C~~~ is watching me so that I won’t harm my child? you do not understand the situation here? his mother my ex is resentful, full of hate, bitter, she got me arrested and thrown in jail for one week for God’s sake! do you think walking away is an easy decision? I am trying to forget and move on with my life by telling myself that my child died suddenly that night and there was nothing else to do to save him. His mother didn’t want me in his life, then she wanted me, then she wanted the divorce, then she said she was surprised by the divorce papers, then vowed that i will never see him again, then begged me to be in his life. Do you realize how crazy that sounds?

The DNA showed he is mine, I am not going to be in his life and I will not connect to him when he grows up, oh if he shows up at my door one day, I will call the Police. He is an innocent baby now, surrounded by snakes, the whole social services and court system are both against me, but my checks are welcome, I have no say and no power to influence the man he would become, thus he will become a stranger to me. I will make sure he will not inherit a penny from me and I will not see him or talk to him ever, He died that night that I got arrested because I wanted to be his father, his crazy fatherless bastard mother wanted him to become like her.

Is this the future you want for MEN? Heath is, if his story is true, the ultimate weapon against a father.

“After that meeting I vowed never to see him again, he clearly had anger towards my Mother, and was still in the frame of mind of blaming her for his life and how crappy our relationship had become. Walking away from him was one of the best decisions I have ever made, it felt great to get rid of that disappointing ghost that haunted my life for 17 years.”

To be fair, maybe Heath’s father was really an asshole, but how to be sure? How do we know that his mother was not preventing his father to see him through all this years, by making it as UNBEARABLE AS FREAKING POSSIBLE, and then playing the victim to her son. So I understand Lodoss response 100%! That would be my decision as well, if I were on his shoes. But hey, let’s forget that, right? Let’s just have kids and bite the bullet. After all, Not All Women Are Like That.

It is hard to give up being a father, but looking at the big picture, it is the best decision to make, for us AND the child, but I don’t expect you to get that, you freaking vibrator…

Heath wrote:

I find it difficult to think so many Men could say just walk away from a Child. I’m new here, and my Mother and Father split when I was 6, I never saw my Father again until I was 23, he wanted to see me and I agreed, but when we met I felt distant towards him, he said something along the lines of “I guess your Mother has told you things about me”, I knew he was thinking she had bad mouthed him etc, but it was quite the opposite, she basically put the fault of the situation on herself and said nothing bad about him at all. I tried to explain this to him, but he kept implying I was lying, like I was trying to protect him from the truth. This made me angry, he didn’t seem to understand the reason I was distant towards him, was because he left me, like I was nothing to him, no phone calls, no cards, no nothing. After that meeting I vowed never to see him again, he clearly had anger towards my Mother, and was still in the frame of mind of blaming her for his life and how crappy our relationship had become. Walking away from him was one of the best decisions I have ever made, it felt great to get rid of that disappointing ghost that haunted my life for 17 years. I guess the point I am trying to make is, if that Child is yours, if you feel anything for it, and you think you’ll regret walking away from it somewhere down the line, then I would try my hardest to be in its life, but that is coming from a man that has lived through a Father that just didn’t give a s~~~.

Good luck with everything, I hope it all works out for you, whatever decision you make. Peace.

Lodoss wrote:

Try my hardest to be in his life? how? by having a supervised visit two hours every month? while some C~~~ is watching me so that I won’t harm my child? you do not understand the situation here? his mother my ex is resentful, full of hate, bitter, she got me arrested and thrown in jail for one week for God’s sake! do you think walking away is an easy decision? I am trying to forget and move on with my life by telling myself that my child died suddenly that night and there was nothing else to do to save him. His mother didn’t want me in his life, then she wanted me, then she wanted the divorce, then she said she was surprised by the divorce papers, then vowed that i will never see him again, then begged me to be in his life. Do you realize how crazy that sounds?

The DNA showed he is mine, I am not going to be in his life and I will not connect to him when he grows up, oh if he shows up at my door one day, I will call the Police. He is an innocent baby now, surrounded by snakes, the whole social services and court system are both against me, but my checks are welcome, I have no say and no power to influence the man he would become, thus he will become a stranger to me. I will make sure he will not inherit a penny from me and I will not see him or talk to him ever, He died that night that I got arrested because I wanted to be his father, his crazy fatherless bastard mother wanted him to become like her.

Is this the future you want for MEN? Heath is, if his story is true, the ultimate weapon against a father.

“After that meeting I vowed never to see him again, he clearly had anger towards my Mother, and was still in the frame of mind of blaming her for his life and how crappy our relationship had become. Walking away from him was one of the best decisions I have ever made, it felt great to get rid of that disappointing ghost that haunted my life for 17 years.”

To be fair, maybe Heath’s father was really an asshole, but how to be sure? How do we know that his mother was not preventing his father to see him through all this years, by making it as UNBEARABLE AS FREAKING POSSIBLE, and then playing the victim to her son. So I understand Lodoss response 100%! That would be my decision as well, if I were on his shoes. But hey, let’s forget that, right? Let’s just have kids and bite the bullet. After all, Not All Women Are Like That.

It is hard to give up being a father, but looking at the big picture, it is the best decision to make, for us AND the child, but I don’t expect you to get that, you freaking vibrator…

[RennieParticipant]

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

I’m glad Bob is gone, endless rationalizations and circling around to point the finger back at men, and never at women gets tiring. So adios you intellectually bereft, and dishonest turd merchant. I’m sure you’re going to do whatever it was you were going to do before, so go do it. As for me, I’m going to keep doing what makes me happy.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[BryantParticipant 229]

i always miss out on the c~~~ punting

"He who lives with honor dies with honor."

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I think I can sum up the MGTOW attitude towards family: family are those who you trust.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Well this is an interesting conversation ,but if you want my perspective prepare for disapointment(both women and fellow MGTOWs). Lets face it I am the only person in my family who can pass on the family name to the next generation of Silvernails. If I dont have kids then my family and its name will die out. I dont want my family to die out because we are an awesome family of badasses. That is one of the reasons why we are almost dying out. I want to and plan to have kids, but I wont get married and I will do it with more than one woman(unless I change my mind). The more women there are having sex with me ,the less they control my life. I dont care how anyone reacts to this reply because no matter what im going my own way and that is what this movement is all about.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

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