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Anonymous1You will be shocked how they are many.
That is the power of Propaganda.
If the Nazis had won WWII, the German people would revere Hitler. Its only because they lost the war that he is seen as a bad guy.
The narrator on the video misses a sharp detail. He says that a Communists uprising led to the creation of the Soviet Union.
The most interesting part of the Revolution has little to do with the Bolsheviks.
The role of Kuhn-Loeb & Co. The Sealed Train. The extraordinary level of protection given to Bolsheviks by the Canadian authorities.
Read ‘Wall Street & the Bolshevik Revolution’ by Antony C Sutton.
Nah, no one promotes the image of Stalin on mass media. One time they tried to equal Putin and Stalin, but, seriously, it looked laughable. It’s like matching a dwarf and a titan. No, it comes from both poor level of education and willing to be a superpower. Stalin associates with power, justice and order. People refuse to see the cost.
But even so, I had read a good saying,”As a rule, people who wish Stalin is back, they wish he is back for someone else, but not for themselves.” Like, I bring nothing to my country. I need Stalin has forced me to work harder. Nope, no one of his admires wishes that! lolYou know, since Communism is too demonized over here, I would bring an example in its favor.
My mother shared with me remembrance about her work. And one of the remembrances was about how they were having lunch at work. When they had lunch at a canteen, there were special staff who randomly picked a lunching person, politely took away the dishes with meal for a food portion size check, brinning the same meal in exchange.
That’s impressive, because I can’t even imagine something like that nowadays.Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
I understand, but the Chinese students we have met are skewed. They obviously are dissatisfied with China to a certain degree or they wouldn’t be studying/working abroad.
A dreadful dictatorship the allows it’s citizens to live and work abroad?
Something not right with that picture.
The role of Kuhn-Loeb & Co. The Sealed Train. The extraordinary level of protection given to Bolsheviks by the Canadian authorities.
Yes, I had read about the train. There are many versions of the foreign support. But remembering what Lenin told, he never thought about the making a Revolution in Russia. He even told “I don’t care of Russia”. The country had just appeared to be ready for a Revolution at that moment.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
One more fact from a bloody Communist state the USSR. It might be queer at the first look, but makes sense. I caught that time.
Each Thursday was so-called the Fish Day. That means every dish which is supposed to be made of meat, was made of seafood. You couldn’t get any dish that consist meat at any canteen across the Union. Unless you are allergic to fish and its confirmed by a medical certificate.Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
Suggestius: I used to have a good buddy who was Russian. He always complained about the 2 year compulsory military service? Did you have to do that? I’m showing my age — this was back in the early 2000’s, I think they’ve reduced it now to one year?
Communism is too demonized over here
Communism is not too demonized anywhere – that’s not possible. There should be a law saying that communists (called “progressives” over here) should be shot and killed on site.
The cultural revolution is happening here in the West. It is deliberate. Obama was ushered in to destroy this country, and he did what he was paid to do. And all the dumb-f~~~ blue-pilled simps voted him in. And now, Trump is too scared and soft to do the nasty job that needs to be done. Trump is gone. Someone recently joked about Trump running again as a Democrat, and I can actually see that.
Suggestius: I used to have a good buddy who was Russian. He always complained about the 2 year compulsory military service? Did you have to do that? I’m showing my age — this was back in the early 2000’s, I think they’ve reduced it now to one year?
Every male Russian citizen until age of 27 was obliged to serve for two years as a conscript. But I have been lucky to evade it. The Russian army is a typical slave army compared to armies of the Ancient times. There is a saying that the army makes men out of boys. In fact, it breaks the men’s spirit, leaving multiple scars on the self-esteem. Our army is a factory that every year produces tons of men with inferiority complex. And it leads to rising of the aggression in the nation’s mentality.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
Communism is not too demonized anywhere – that’s not possible. There should be a law saying that communists (called “progressives” over here) should be shot and killed on site.
If there is a law then there will be lawyers hiding nearby, waiting for to put the alimony on you. So you don’t need the law. Just shoot first!

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)
I understand, but the Chinese students we have met are skewed. They obviously are dissatisfied with China to a certain degree or they wouldn’t be studying/working abroad.
A dreadful dictatorship the allows it’s citizens to live and work abroad?
Something not right with that picture.Yes, the students I met, were skewed. I went to college starting in 1989, so Tiananmen Square was covered prominently in the uncensored Western news, since that was the year the approximately monthlong bloody democracy protests occurred in — so the foreign national Chinese students I knew, were exposed to this, and well aware of all the protests and how they were put down so brutally.
This is in sharp contrast to within China itself, where the mass media is and was, controlled by the State — no free press.
I think Deng Xiaoping implemented a great reform back in 1982: The Presidency was limited to two terms, and a retirement system was implemented for senior leaders. That was in response to Mao Zedong’s ironclad grip to power until death, Mao’s refusal to listen to advisors, his purges, the disastrous Great Leap Forward, etc.
Last year saw a REVERSAL of those term limits, under Xi Jinping, rubber stamped by the legislature.
I think it is fair to say China resembles a right-wing dictatorship, with little *political* reform. In contrast, there has been ENORMOUS economic reform. De-collectivization of agriculture, land use rights in urban areas, etc, too many to list.
I would say it’s NOT a ‘dreadful’ dictatorship IF you keep your head down by staying out of politics, human rights advocacy, organized religion, or democracy advocacy.
China eased emigration policy in the early 1980’s. Carter once asked Deng about allowing Chinese to leave China, in the late 1970’s. Deng responded ‘how many do you want, 10 million?’.
Back when I went to University, there were only about 50,000 Chinese college students in the US, today it is more like 350,000 or a 7-fold increase (approximate). The foreign, including US, universities are still held in high regard, as it’s thought they do a better job of teaching critical thinking.
Allowing open emigration can also be a good way for a regime to get rid of political agitators or reformers, if you want to look at it from the cynical side. Most are here for economic reasons, though. I think it’s GREAT because it helps our economy AND exposes them to countries with freedom of speech and assembly.
Communism is too demonized over here
Communism is not too demonized anywhere – that’s not possible. There should be a law saying that communists (called “progressives” over here) should be shot and killed on site.
The cultural revolution is happening here in the West. It is deliberate. Obama was ushered in to destroy this country, and he did what he was paid to do. And all the dumb-f~~~ blue-pilled simps voted him in. And now, Trump is too scared and soft to do the nasty job that needs to be done. Trump is gone. Someone recently joked about Trump running again as a Democrat, and I can actually see that.Fortunately we have what is called ‘rule of law’ and a constitution here, where people can work out their differences without being ‘shot and killed for their beliefs’. We don’t need any more communist witch hunts. The House Unamerican Activities Committee, was both un-american and un-constitutional.
The best way to work against communism and socialism (progressivism) is to promote FREEDOM and INDIVIDUALISM and educate people about the abuses and hardships under communist rule.
Progressives, much as I dislike them, are socialists, not communists. I sure as hell disagree with Bernie Sanders, but I don’t want him imprisoned, shot, or killed!
The Republicans and Democrats, are more alike, than they are different. When the Republicans controlled the Congress AND the Presidency, did they reduce government spending and regulation to any significant extent?
The conspiracy theory of cultural marxism, is bulls~~~.
And what is the ‘nasty job that needs to be done’?
and educate people about the abuses and hardships under communist rule.
One-sided education is called Propaganda. Propaganda, in its trun, leads to a brainwashing and brainwashing leads to limited thinking that is definitely opposed to freedom and individualism. A scoiety of the future, I mean a progressive society indeed, it’s the society where the best solutions of the past should be apllied. Including the solutions that can be found in the USSR history.
Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

Anonymous1A dreadful dictatorship the allows it’s citizens to live and work abroad?
Something not right with that picture.
Indeed, I am suspicious of this phenomena as well.
I believe it is dangerous to allow so many Communists into our graduate research programs at University. Also these Citizens abroad buy land here in USA and Canada.
This may be part of a larger and bolder strategy…

Anonymous1The conspiracy theory of cultural marxism, is bulls~~~.
How do you explain the fact that Feminist Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA? How do you explain the fact that the Fabian Society and Bertrand Russell pushed for Feminism back in the early 20th century. We also have groups like the Frankfurt School. Look at the Council on Foreign relations and their history going back to the Milner Group.
Do you really think this all just an accident?
Why do you think these Foundations are doing everything they can to push for “Women’s Rights” and LGBT rights?
Please reconsider your position on this.
Excerpt from What’s the Rockefeller Foundation Doing for Women’s Advancement in Corporations?:
The Rockefeller Foundation has been investing in women’s empowerment since the first wave of feminism in the 1970s, when it, along with other large foundations like Carnegie and Ford, began funding women’s studies programs in universities, and other efforts to research and address women’s equality.
But it’s difficult to know the extent of the foundation’s investments aimed at women. Like the Gates Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation spreads grants aimed at women throughout several of its funding areas, and to greater and lesser degrees in each area.
One thing is for sure: The Rockefeller Foundation is a notable funder of research and initiatives aimed at closing the gender gap. The foundation has also supported many of the major convenings for women’s equality, including the recent Women Deliver conference of the United Nations, which it supported with a $100,000 grant through its Advance Health Initiative.
I don’t want to get too far off topic here, but I’ll leave with you this.

Anonymous1The most interesting part of the Revolution has little to do with the Bolsheviks.
The role of Kuhn-Loeb & Co. The Sealed Train. The extraordinary level of protection given to Bolsheviks by the Canadian authorities.
Read ‘Wall Street & the Bolshevik Revolution’ by Antony C Sutton.
I have been working my way through this book. Then I will start with the other books he has written.
The information presented is mind blowing. This work greatly supplements Carrol Quigley’s works of “Tragedy & Hope” and “The Anglo-American Establishment.”
If you didn’t believe in Conspiracies before reading, you will after. I can guarantee that. (Frank please check these books out).
How do you explain the fact that Feminist Gloria Steinem worked for the CIA?
As did Timothy Leary, creator of the ‘LSD revolution’.
Steinem explains it pretty well in that video. She worked for a CIA front group, the ‘Independent Research Service’.
In that work for the CIA, she went to communist youth festivals around the world, and encouraged other American students to attend, to gather information for the agency and present the American side. Those attending such youth festivals, partially financed by the CIA, had a wide range of political views. Steinem, whilst a leftist, was AIDING the CIA’s cold war effort against communism in this work, NOT promoting it. Steinem is a leftist, but not a communist. After all, she was ‘outed’ for working for the CIA decades ago, by Redstockings, full name ‘Redstockings of the Women’s Liberation Movement’. It’s called RED stockings because they were revolutionary leftists — communists. They outed her because she was working FOR the CIA against communism. This is all well-documented history.
Contrast that with, say, Jane Fonda, who IS a socialist who wants to go all the way to communism — I WOULD call her a communist:
I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that someday we would someday become communists. . . . I, a socialist, think that we should strive toward a socialist society, all the way to communism – Jane Fonda, 1970, Address to Michigan State University
Now, I don’t like EITHER of their political views, but there is a distinct difference. Steinem being on the CIA payroll is interesting, as it’s yet ANOTHER case of the CIA getting involved in domestic politics and organizations like the National Student’s Association — long before 9/11.
I agree with most of the rest of your message; however, the left-wing activism of the Rockefeller Foundation and other such organizations, ISN’T a conspiracy because it ISN’T a secret. The collaboration of political and charitable organizations to get their favored officials elected is nothing new, and not unique to the Left.
It is peculiar to associate Bertrand Russell with cultural marxism; he did after all write the pamphlet ‘Why I am not a communist’.
Regarding the ‘sealed train’, Lenin got off several times, even staying overnight, so it was not ‘sealed’. That said, the Germans gave him financial and logistical support, AND safe passage to Russia to destabilize it. This was a German strategy not about ideology, but about weakening an enemy. Germany also supported Trotsky, after all.
I believe it is dangerous to allow so many Communists into our graduate research programs at University. Also these Citizens abroad buy land here in USA and Canada.
This may be part of a larger and bolder strategy…
They AREN’T communists. I had Chinese professors (full US citizens), and knew many Chinese national students and know several Chinese foreign workers. NONE of the ones I’ve known personally are communists. They come here to study and for a better life. So, quite capitalistic actually. They can do better here, then at home.
So when Chinese study abroad, it’s very GOOD in my opinion. It exposes them to a free press and western democracy. Also, exchange of students helps with cultural understanding, and ought to make them less likely to be militaristic and less top-down and dictatorial. Look at a camera sweep of the audience at a communist party convention in the US, you will see almost no Chinese.
The conspiracy theory of cultural marxism, is bulls~~~.
And what is the ‘nasty job that needs to be done’?
You did not just say “conspiracy theory”, did you? You have got to be s~~~ting me.
Anyone who mentions the phrase “conspiracy theory” in an argument is a liberal freak-show. “Conspiracy Theory” is a phrase that was fine-tuned by the CIA and all the pavlov dogs, like you, salivate every time the media rings the bell.
Not me, dude. I know which way the roster crows.
You’re fighting with kid gloves, FrankOne.
– You use extreme examples to represent the norm.
– You use the phrase “conspiracy theory”.
– You site statistics which are so stupid, it’s obvious you have only surface knowledge of anything at all.
– You don’t listen to anybody, and you argue even the most obvious of points.
– You talk about people and things from countries and cultures you have never visited, and even argue with those who have.
– You constantly espouse the “argument from personal experience” to try to prove a point.
– And you use “appeals to authority” (including yourself as an “authority”) also to try to prove points.In short – you got nuthin’. You’re not even a pesudo-intellectual. Your a high-school cheerleader in a science class.
You do not have a deep understanding of anything at all, and talking with you is a waste of time. You are lazy. You refuse to do the research, and people here spend so much time trying to educate you. All the information is out now. You don’t want to be educated. Just go back to watching football.

Anonymous1They outed her because she was working FOR the CIA against communism. This is all well-documented history.
Yes, but Frank I believe it is possible to work for “Cultural Marxism” while supposedly fighting against Communism. That is part of the deception.
The way I see it if you are working towards accomplishing the goals laid out in the “Communist Manifesto” whatever methods you employ are irrelevant. They are working towards the same end goals. Feminism works to accomplish break down of the Family Unit. So yes, I see Feminism as being part of Marxism.
The Capitalists created Communism. This goes back to “Wallstreet and the Bolsheviks.” There is a Conspiracy here because at the time of say “The Milner Group” all of this was secret. It was secret until Carrol Quigley wrote about it.
The CIA was created from Sullivan & Cromwell Law Firm (Rockefeller’s Lawyers). The Rockefeller Foundation also created the Board of Education and created the Standard American Education System. The Education System pushes “Group Think” and Collectivism. It is no coincidence that the Children are learning all this “Gender Theory” and Women’s Studies, while the same time the CIA pushed and created Feminism. I consider that to be “Cultural Marxism.”
We are living through a carefully planned agenda. Our Civilization is being transformed right before our eyes.
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