Can't be bothered anymore

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I haven’t sworn off dating or sex, i simply lost interest. I live in a college town, and there are attractive chicks up the wazoo here, to the point they all look the same now. When i glance at them, the first thing that i think about is the female nature inside the beautiful figure. It’s more than enough to turn me off despite the fact they are attractive.

[Jeremiah JohnsonParticipant 2219]

I will pass on to you what I learned after taking my red pill brother…No of course they are not all bad…But following that same logic for just a moment imagine this…You have to wade through divorces, child support, rape charges, lies, cheating, scandalous behavior, cheating, disrespectful comments, hurtful mean swearing, and that is just to name what comes to my mind at the moment…The pain you must go through today, to find that special fruit bearing tree, just is not worth the search anymore…The hunt has become so dangerous that it simply is not worth it…I find it much easier to make myself happy, make my two German Shepherds as happy as I possibly can, and reap every second of love they have to offer me…And never again include someone into my life that is simply there to reap rewards from my soul and work…Never going to let that happen ever again for the rest of my life…F~~~ that…but brother…that is just my two pennies is all…

Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Antipathy wrote:

to the point they all look the same now.

Ha, yes! I remember that. They all started to look, and act, the same for me too. But I think they actually do that on purpose to fit in.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Just to echo some of the sentiments in this thread, the risk/reward of becoming involved with women long term, in western society, fails the benefit/cost analysis.

Take my example. I opted out of the default marriage contract and had a prenuptial agreement which she readily agreed too at the time. In short, I thought I found my NAWALT. The problem is society + the law + female nature; which creates a perfect storm that almost no relationship can survive. Let’s exam each component.

Society – Feminism has constructed the narrative that women are equal or better then men, that they can do anything without the corresponding amount of responsibility. This is the equivalent to giving a child a gun. (Opportunity)

The Law – Provides the means to extract resources in an unfair and capricious manner. Due to the irresponsible decision that are allowed in the prior factor, someone has to pay – mainly the male. This is done through family law, and taxes with generous social programs. The law has removed the ability for a husband to guide his family.This is the proverbial bullets for the gun. (Means)

Female nature – This is neither good nor evil on the whole; it just simply is. Females are govern by hypergamy and monkey branching. This is an evolutionary + cultural survival strategy that has existed since the dawn of time. Buffants law is at play. (Motive)

So with the interplay between these three factors, motive, means, opportunity, the perfect “crime” can be committed. That is why LTR simply are not worth the investment.

Just to add – like Old Sage stated. You need to do a risk/reward analysis. LTR are not worth the risk. Short, fun flings, abroad, under an alias, where the risk is low, reward is higher, I think is viable option provided you take reasonable precautions and limit your losses. You will suffer losses, you will earn scars, you will get burned. I believe in living life. That being stated, I don’t believe in suicide (I.e. Marriage)

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

I don’t know . . . I like to be up front with my intentions.

So do I. When I tell a woman we’re just friends and nothing else, I mean it. I have no intention of having sex with her. I’m not against the idea, just indifferent.

And that’s the important part: you have to actually mean it. This isn’t some strategy or ploy or trick or method or whatever. It’s simply how to live your life. Or at least how I live mine.

All I’m saying here is that when you do tell a woman you are just friends, and you mean it, she will start plotting to get into your pants. That’s nothing on you at all. It’s just how they are.

It’s like if you tell a man you’re friends, he’ll wonder if you’ll help him move a couch that weekend. A woman, in contrast, will wonder if she can f~~~ you. It’s just how our brains have evolved.

[Anonymous 54]

Antipathy wrote:

I haven’t sworn off dating or sex, i simply lost interest. I live in a college town, and there are attractive chicks up the wazoo here, to the point they all look the same now. When i glance at them, the first thing that i think about is the female nature inside the beautiful figure. It’s more than enough to turn me off despite the fact they are attractive.

This I think is the best scenario..Learn enough to realize you just dont want them.When I look at women now,I just see female brains. Well no f~~~ing thank you!

[Anonymous 54]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Nighthawk wrote:

to the point they all look the same now.

Ha, yes! I remember that. They all started to look, and act, the same for me too. But I think they actually do that on purpose to fit in.

They ARE all the same. Thats how a collective,”hive”works.

[2muchtruthSpectator 130]

Awakened wrote:

Rockmaninoff wrote:

I want sex and company

Are you sure you want the company ?

i honestly think about this alot, i think i’m more in love with what i think women could be as opposed to loving them for what they are…

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I find the company of women, to be like the company of sharks. They might look like beautiful creatures, but if you’re wise, you know it’s probably not a good idea to jump in the water for a closer look.

[GrumpyParticipant]

IMHO
That’s the “beauty” of MGTOW.
Going your own way, doing your own thing, living your life the way you want to. Do as you seem fit. it’s all good if your doing it your way.

Unless of course you have to wear a rubber chicken outfit, a whip, clown wig, and carry a bucket of mazola oil. That’s just weird..
bahahahaha .. you pictured that.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[OldBillParticipant]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Problem is, I’ll probably never even meet them, because it’s gotten to the point where I really just can’t be bothered.

I’d ask if you want a membership card, Rocky, but you’re already here.

I was reminded of just how much I can’t now be bothered earlier this year. In late May and with next to no effort on my part, I found myself in a sexual encounter with a women nearly half my age. She was attractive, reasonably well read, not too boring, seemingly happy to try new things, and enjoyed our time together. She even paid for her share of our afternoon out. Yet I couldn’t be bothered to make even a minimal effort to continue the relationship.

Apart from the case of prostitutes and escorts, men in their mid-50s don’t get that many chances to f~~~ women in their twenties. I know men who’ve made complete fools of themselves for the thinnest chance to f~~~ a women in her twenties. Yet here I was, having spent a pleasant afternoon f~~~ing one, and I couldn’t be bothered to pick up the phone to arrange another meeting.

I’ve seen her a few times since and she’s made it known that it’s still there for the asking. I won’t be asking however. The real and substantial risks she represent simply aren’t worth the fleeting pleasures her body provides.

That brings me to the point of my post. Our critics are correct in one respect; all women are not like that. What they fail, perhaps deliberately, to acknowledge is that ENOUGH women are like that and enough is more than enough.

It’s because enough women are like that – because each day more and more women are like that – that men like you and I can no longer be bothered. What little enough women have to offer is no longer worth risks enough women pose.

Reality is bitter until you learn to accept it for itself. It’s when we choose to judge reality that the sadness and pain enter our lives.

As Stoicism teaches, any pain we feel about something external to ourselves is not due to the thing itself, but instead is due to our thinking. When we change that thinking, the pain goes away.

Sorry for the ramble. If you’ve gotten this far, thanks for reading. Wonderful website you’ve got here, wonderful people, but so much pain.

I try to read every one of your posts, Rocky. That’s how much I value your opinions and insight.

Be well, brother, and remember that you don’t walk alone.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Honorable_Juice_BoxParticipant 591]

I’m sure many here share your thoughts, I know I do. The investment simply isn’t worth the highly unlikely payoff. There are too many factors to consider:

-Am I physically attracted to her (not to sound shallow but I don’t care how great her personality is if I can’t look at her without feeling sick)
-Is she intelligent/can hold a stimulating conversation
-Does she share some of my interests/hobbies
-Has she NOT had miles of c~~~
-Is she childless
-Can I stand to be around her for extended periods of time (this one would certainly be tricky as I am someone who highly values my solitude)
-Does she not have mountains of debt.

The odds of finding such a woman might be 1/10,000, maybe even 1/million? The process of discovery alone would take a large investment of money and time.

Then, assuming I could even find such a NAWALT; the best case scenario is that I have a loaded gun pointed at my head, in the hands of a woman who I can only HOPE never turns into an AWALT, and divorce rapes me, files false charges, etc.

Sure I have some glimmer of hope in the back of my mind, but I can also do basic cost/risk analysis and realize it simply is not worth it.

[Anonymous 14]

In short, the product is NO LONGER WORTH the price we have to pay.

V

[the roadParticipant 3125]

I can’t be arsed either. I had a chance with a few women lately but I am so burned out that I didn’t care to follow through.

It’s because of age. I’m not old but old enough that my sex drive isn’t as high anymore. I’m grateful for this. It has allowed me to avoid some situations with high risk and very little pay off.

#MANOUT

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Oil Change Dating… My pals swears by it.

At month three..they go Ownership “commitment” nuts.

True, but only if they think they are the only one you’re seeing. If she is unsure in her position with you and knows she is in competition with other women, she will continue trying to earn your attention instead of demanding it.

And when they are f~~~ing nuts… my pal f~~~s their best friend to make a point.

Damn that guy is smooth…

Exactly my point. He already knows it.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

OldBill wrote:

I try to read every one of your posts, Rocky. That’s how much I value your opinions and insight.

Aw, Bill, didn’t think you had that high of an opinion of me! Well, if it’s worth anything, I find your insights great too. And it makes me feel all warm inside when I see someone else detest social media as much as I do.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[AttonParticipant]

I’m 18 and I am supposedly at my prime, I can’t bring myself to open my wallet for some void in Stiletto’s. Either way it was a good read Sir Rock then again text to speech does all the heavy lifting for me.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Atton wrote:

I’m 18 and I am supposedly at my prime,

You think so?

Just wait until you’re 30.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

sidecar wrote:

Just wait until you’re 30.

Don’t wait, since the time will pass anyway. Enjoy your young body and vigor. It’s not forever!

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Don’t wait, since the time will pass anyway. Enjoy your young body and vigor. It’s not forever!

I’m not saying wait idly. I’m just saying that from 18 to 30 it’s only going to get better. Men hit their prime at the point when women are well past theirs.

This is no coincidence.

But it is amusing.

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