Can MGTOW man ever be close friends with a women? Is that even Possible

[RayBandakuParticipant 888]

I am wondering if any one here has a close friend who is a women.  Is that a bad idea for a MGTOW man.  What are the danger’s of having a close women friend.

The reason I am asking is as man I do meet business women and they think like men and I don’t mind talking to them.  Some times I wonder Am I going too far by avoiding all women or is there exceptions.  Keep in mind I am not interested in having a girl friend or have sex with her, just as friend.  I am not sure which way to think about this.  Any MGTOW men hang out with women as friends.

Please share your views on this.  Can a MGTOW man be a close friend with a women?  Yes or No, why or why not.  Thanks for sharing.

[Anonymous 42]

Yes you can be close friends, but I don’t recommend it. I have been in the “friend zone” with a few different women, be as nice as you want by all means, each and every female friendship I had failed dismally in spite my efforts, Man was I a f~~~ing tool….

[TheBardParticipant 974]

I would say yes. I am close friends with 2 women I work with and I have known them for almost a year. We often hang out outside of work and have fun together. One thing that helps though is they are 40 years old and I am only 27. They are cute, but there is no desire to date them since they are 13 years older then me plus they already have boyfriends anyway. Another thing that helps is that are are MGTOW friendly women. When we go out we always pay our own way, when I have mentioned women like Anita Sarkeesian to them they laugh, and even though they have boyfriends they never bring them to our outings because it is our time. One time one of the women’s boyfriends just happen to be in the same shopping center as us and she saw him and brought him in to introduce us. When I joked about joining us she said “no go away work people only lol” and not that I would care if their boyfriend joining us they want to have just work friend time alone and they also understand their boyfriends need male time alone as well. So if you don’t have any sexual desires to be with these women and they aren’t a pain in the ass like many women are today then I say you can easily have female friends you are close with.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I’m not gonna sugarcoat this Ray, and I hope you’ve come to understand that means I like you….. but no, you f~~~ing can’t be friends with women. Women are WAY too sex-obsessed for that. And if she’s not f~~~ing you, you don’t mean anything to her.

Unless she picks up the phone to call you on your birthday or treats you as well as your male friends (no woman ever did that) then she’s not your friend. I have a friend who calls me every 2-3 weeks just to say hi and because we haven’t hung out for a while. So I grab my jacket and we go have fish and chips – or something. That’s a friend. He will ask about my car and want to see the engine, and then we stand there for a few minutes talking about the car, the horsepower, how fast it goes etc. When in the history of f~~~ did a female ever take interest in anything that wasn’t herself?

You can’t be friends with someone who’s obsessed with taking about themselves.
If the subject is not HER, women are “bored” – all the f~~~ing time.

When a woman “friend” goes out with you she’s so obsessed about the no sex going on that you just can’t have a conversation with this person. Don’t kid yourself. In her mind, you’re not a “friend”…. you’re a “guy she’s not f~~~ing”.

( See the difference? )

When someone asks her “so who was the guy I saw you at the movies with?”, she doesn’t say “His name is Ray and he’s a blast to hang out with”. No. She totally obsessed with letting everyone know that she’s NOT having sex with you. “Oh he’s just a friend” – emphasis on “JUST”. JUST a friend. She doesn’t even tell them your NAME!!

I don’t introduce my friend as “JUST” a friend. I say “This is Andy”. I don’t make a big deal out of telling other people that I am NOT sucking his dick. Only women do that.

• “Oh he’s JUST a friend”
• “Oh it’s not like that…”
• “He’s not my boyfriend”
• “Just a guy I know”
• “Don’t get any ideas”
• “He’s a great guy he just doesn’t do it for me”.

She’s totally obsessed with telling herself (and everyone) that she’s NOT f~~~ing you. I don’t want some chick talking about me like that. As far as women are concerned there are only 2 kinds of guys in the world. Guys she IS f~~~ing…. and guys she is NOT f~~~ing. And that’s why you can’t be “friends” with chicks.

In her mind, you’re not a friend.
You’re *just* a guy she’s not f~~~ing.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Good words, KeyMaster. Now I going to have to pay attention to how the females I know introduce me!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You can’t be friends with someone who’s obsessed with taking about themselves.
If the subject is not HER, women are “bored” – all the f~~~ing time.

That’s it! My god that’s it. That is it right there. Jesus almighty more perfect words were never spoken.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MIKE!!! OMG Lollololololol “My Cocaine” = Michael Caine. lollolololzozlzolzozlzolz

F~~~ , I’m dying over here.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Young man, I saw it in your little movie “the Awakening”. “Mycocaine” was in the end credits and I about had a heart attack from laughing myself senseless. I had to join. Master Keymaster. Mycocaine at your service.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

for me personally yes. I get on really well with a woman at work and we do the occasional game of football that involves lots of booze and we always have a great time plus we have each other’s backs at work

I am the same with Bard where there is an age gap so there isn’t any awkwardness or anything like that. For me being MGTOW is about relationships and pointing out to dumb feminist women their hypocrisy but that doesn’t mean I can’t get on with them

[KeymasterKeymaster]

That’s amazing I really ALWAYS feel there is some sexual tension there. Only twice that I can recall being “friends” with none of that awkwardness. BUT after a while the one grew to be “into me” .. even though I wasn’t. (So she didn’t count she was also +10 years older) And the other wasn’t really a “friend” for all the reasons I mentioned above. We just hung out as a convenience thing “wanna get a coffee?” yeah ok.. that kind of thing. Never exchanged Christmas gifts or anything.

Otherwise I get along with them just fine., but it’s always an unspoken understanding she’s a she, and Im a he and we always end up talking about her. Now if a conversation comes up, I just ask her something about herself and just shut up and let her blab.

The first question out of a female’s mouth is ALWAYS about “are you seeing anyone?”, “who are you dating?”, “when are you getting married?”. If it were possible to be friends with women they would first have to show an interest in something neutral. But it’s ALWAYS relationship / sex s~~~ – and about HER.

When I hear guys say “oh yeah man totally friends with like 10 chicks” , no offense meant here, but it reads like complete bulls~~~. Leykis has a theory the guys are just friends with her because they want to nail her. That seems more realistic to me.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I think a MGTOW man can be friends with women and I think its better that way because we are aware of the situation we are in versus a non mgtow man who is manipulated.  I see women friends as guy friends with nicer t~~~.  Would you spend money on another guy for no reason? probably not and that is how these female friends should be treated absolutely neutral and without power.

[RoyDalParticipant]

The first question out of a female’s mouth

Yes, that’s the first question all right. However, it is always preceded by her bringing up “my husband” or “my boyfriend.” Always.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

@ KeyMaster, Enough already! I stand blinded by your wisdom, It’s too much all at once!

Take it from a real fem-tool like myself: NEVER EVER AGAIN! I agree with KeyMaster, who needs that s~~~! Hang with tail you an’t tapping… F~~~ that! If I ever see any of my past “friend Zoners” they are in for a rude awakening! They will be left in tears, trembling in their own self worthlessness. F~~~ a woman scorn…BRING IT ON MOTHA-F~~~A!

[Anonymous 5]

NO as the reasons stated above. I thought I had friends who were girls in the past, but upon reflection I realized when they did call me over to hang out, they ignored me, didn’t engage in conversation, told people I was just a friend etc. Or they just wanted another drinking buddy in the house. They basically used me as an emotional tampon or blue pill guy to give them free car rides and s~~~. Never again.

When I had facebook, none of the facebook girls who were my “friends” EVER talked to me. Hell, even when I made an effort to hang out, they were all “too busy”. I get it, you don’t want to f~~~ me, I don’t want to f~~~ you either. I just want to hang out bitch. I was always ignored by them unless I was currently having sex with them. Thank god I deleted that s~~~ site.

[tsParticipant 109]

I’m friends with a girl since my late teenager days, so not much age difference and it’s lasting over a decade now (which is remarkable for the volatile western society).

This association is basically a “left-over” from my pre-MGTOW days and quite different from being friends with a guy. The dynamics changed a lot over the years. In the beginning there was, of course, a lot of sexual tension, also some gifts in both directions, then it quickly changed into some sort of mentor/protégé thing, now it’s about occasionally sharing interests, like video games and music. I’m curious, what the future brings. I’m happy with the state of affairs, it’s about the right amount of XX in my life I can stand and there is absolutely no drama or BS. (I wish my relatives could be this way.)

If I would read that description above from someone else, I could call it classical orbiting with being used for different purposes over time, bluntly speaking. This brings up the question, if any other mode of operation between the sexes could humanly be possible at all.

[TYEParticipant 291]

I don’t recommend it marriage isn’t the only thing MGTOW men should avoid, long term relationships, and frequent sex partners have the potential to be toxic as well. Women are not timeless they get worn out very quickly, and when they do switch them out immediately.  I often compare women to many things, and a werewolf is one of my favorites they’re beautiful in the daytime, but at night they turn into wild beast that will kill you without second thought. View women as werewolves, and you will never go wrong know that her beauty can be turned into a weapon at any moment.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I couldn’t resist. Here is the question answered in 1989 by our Hollywood writers deluxe:

Very funny, was a famous scene back then because of the question “can men and women be friends”.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Ronin XParticipant 81]

IMHO and in my experience men and women cannot be friends. KeyMaster is right when he says that women are too self centered to be a true friend. For a woman, male friends are a stop gap between relationships. They keep these guys around to stall boredom and to get their attention needs met until the next boyfriend comes along. Then the poor sap won’t hear from her until she has relationship issues or a break up happens.  The “friendship” always revolves around her messed up life and her drama. We, as men, have no need for female friendship. Let’s be honest, we make friends with women in order to f~~~ them. We friend with a purpose. Women don’t have male friends. She has male acquaintances that she has friend zoned. She may enjoy being orbited by all of that testosterone but in reality she is surrounded by opportunists. We may be  friends with them by default because we work together  and/or go to school with women but outside of those fields we could give a f~~~ about female friendship.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

Me and my ex started off as good friends, spent a great 2 years just hanging out.. camping, playing pool, watching guy movies and playing video games.
To me, its all in how you treat them. Me and my guy friends very very rarely discuss ourselves. We’ll discuss games, news, movies or conceptual ideas. Girls very rarely will discuss such mental extrapolations and prefer more solid subjects such as themselves, their friends, their family or anyone else in their life.
Not only that but a female friend will get upset if a week or two goes by without contact. I’ve noticed this because there are times where I just drop off the grid and wont answer calls, messages or any other method of contacting me and each and every girl friend I have had has become quite irate. Every guy friend has simply shrugged and we’ve had another beer..
A womans view and type of friendship are incredibly people-centric and a guys friendship is far more subject-centric(footb~~~~, cars, games etc.)
Maybe theres crossover in some girls but hold your breath

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Ray:

I think your desire for friendship is going to get the better of you one day and bring you to a greater depth of ruin, unless you over come it.  If I have “crossed a line” I apologize but sometimes things must be said for the sake of being said.  No greater or lesser reason.

Can you be friends with a woman?  First you should ask if a woman can even be a friend to herself.  A woman always desires, it is in her nature.  Because of this she will always desire more of herself and project it onto others.  She is her own worst enemy and never a friend to herself.

How can she be a friend to others?  A man who enters a friendship just lets things be, if he lets himself just be.  A woman can never do that.  You can observe this through simple “self-improvement” behavior such as putting on make up or shopping for clothes.  A woman does this because deep down she despises herself and this in turn poisons her other “relationships”.

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