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“Projecting much?”
only women use phrases like this so either a woman pretending to be a bloke or a total mangina – glad he is gone
Are we powerless ? No, as men get older are value goes up, when women get older their value goes down.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
Little did the guy know (from the video) the bitch ruined a perfectly good golf club as well as his gaming rig. He seemed pretty calm about it.
If she tried that with a dude that had a screw loose (as she does) – she might have ended up in the hospital.
I wonder if they are still together….
In her mind – If she is not YOUR priority, you are in the DOGHOUSE! Why men put up with that s~~~ (or even entertain the idea) is WAY beyond me. Sure, sex is great but it ain’t worth all that headache!!
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltAt the end of the vid the dude says “you had better hope the warranty covers this.” Ha ha!! So how would THAT read??
Acts of God, nature or a BITCH are not covered under this warranty.
I guess her attempt to withhold sex didn’t work too well. That is how women control us all! Well, almost all of us.
"I care not what others think of what I do, but I care very much about what I think of what I do! That is character!"
~ Theodore RooseveltWe are only as powerless as we allow ourselves to be. Females and manginas decide to be powerless because it absolves them of responsibility for their s~~~ty outcomes… men allow themselves to be powerless at times out of fear of the consequences of direct and decisive action.
And you know what Yoda said about fear. Or was it fried foods? I forget.
In any case, if you feel powerless in your relationships it’s because you’re afraid to loose something that you’ve already lost. Accept the loss and move on, then you’ll realize how pointless it is to give up your power.
Jesus f~~~ing Christ… I am absolutely overwhelmed by the wisdom in this thread. I’m only done with the first page, but every post, from the original post on resonates with my experience and adds enlightenment or words to my experience.
Thank you.
Thank you.
A Women’s (Supply) leverage: Sex
A Male’s (Demand) leverage: Money, Career, Small Business Owner, House, Car, Boat, Savings, Retirement, Resources, Fix-it man, Problem Solver, etc.
Who do you think, should be calling the shots?
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
We as men have massive power. The problem in the dating world is that men have surrendered their power to women. The power of women is an illusion at best. We have put them on this ridiculous pedestal because they have a vagina. We worship the vagina because we have convinced ourselves that nothing in life has more value or gives more pleasure than being in this vagina. Female authors are writing books to women on how to use their vagina to control and dominate us. Female rappers have even battled over who has the best vagina. But the fact of the matter is, it’s just a hole. It’s just a wet, moist hole that we entertain ourselves with from time to time. That is the first thing we must realize in order to take back your power. A lot of guys out there have yet to come to grips with the fact that they have been idolizing a hole in a wall of flesh. Let that sink in for a while and that will change your whole perspective on things. The second thing to realize is that they actually need us more than we need them. I know so many women who are on the verge of clinical depression because they don’t have a man or a husband to validate their existence. They may not publicly show it but the struggle is real for them, especially for those who are slamming into the wall. I have come across quite a few red pillers during my travels this summer. Some were part of the known movement and others were cultivating mgtow convictions on their own. There’s a huge mgtow-rising in this country and women are beginning to feel it.
You don’t know her yet.
Therefore, she doesn’t MEAN anything to you.
And since she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet…
Her “rejection” can’t possibly mean anything to you either.Congratulations. You’re cured of all rejection.
As soon as you are aware of this, it’s not a “failure”
Thank you for writing this, KeyMaster. I have struggled with rejection for many years. It’s an embarrassing experience and it has had a major effect on my self-esteem. I had to go through hell just to get the courage to ask a girl out on a date when I was a teenager. My fear of rejection was very intense. I thought I was unlovable or something based on the way a teenage girl or young lady would react to me sweet-talking her and trying to convince her to go out and have a good time with me. I really had to analyze the situation and accept reality for what it is. People have their preferences—I certainly do. There’s a million reasons why a woman won’t go out on a date with a guy. Sometimes I’m surprised to find out certain women like me because I assume they all want to date rich, overconfident assholes. I think rejection will always be a disappointing experience for me as long as I’m dating, but it’s not an emotionally devastating experience anymore—which is good. I try to look at the situation objectively. I wouldn’t want to date certain women if they asked me out—I would politely decline their offers. During my youth, I wanted women to give me a better self-esteem by dating me and having sex with me. I didn’t realize that I had create a better self-esteem by going out into the world, finding a job, and improving my life. Dating would be so much easier if I could know which women like me and which ones don’t BEFORE I start a conversation with them. Because I’m dealing with the realm of the unknown, I’m going to experience situations that are disappointing. Like you said, these situations shouldn’t be interpreted as men failing—as if there was some game show prize available to them for the right answer. It’s just a learning process. It comes with the territory of being a cold-calling salesman. You keep calling until you get a “yes.” Lucky for us: there are other experiences in life that are enjoyable beyond searching for a woman to date. It is possible for me to have a healthy self-esteem without having a girlfriend or a wife. A woman’s preference of men should have nothing to do with how I feel about myself.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
Thank you for writing this, KeyMaster. I have struggled with rejection for many years. It’s an embarrassing experience and it has had a major effect on my self-esteem.
That’s absolutely normal. The system is set up and DESIGNED to get you to feel inadequate that way. That’s why women (and many men also) use “rejection” as an attempt at your self-esteem. They are so high on themselves, they think a “no” from a girl who meant nothing to him only seconds earlier should be some devastating and soul crushing experience.
But it’s not. you’ve only been social;y conditioned to think that way. And so have they.
It FAILS the moment you refuse to subscribe to it. She can’t touch you. It’s IMPOSSIBLE. Oh yeah her claws will come out, but she can’t scratch you.
Think about it. What is she “rejecting” actually? Your attention? Your time? An offer for a drink? An offer for an evening out? It’s not a “rejection” at all. She is just saying “no” to being a recipient of that. Since you are offering her PLUSSES+++++++ taking it away (or not wanting it) doesn’t place you in the negative.
So she doesn’t want your time.
She doesn’t want your attention.
She doesn’t want a dance.
She doesn’t want to go out.
She doesn’t want you to make an effort to call her.How is that a negative on YOU? It’s not. it’s HER LOSS.
You offer something, someone doesn’t want it, you lose nothing.
She gets an offer of something on the table, she doesn’t want it, she loses.You lose nothing..
As soon as you realize that, female “rejection” is meaningless.
It’s as meaningless as her approval.Remember…. you’re not approaching her, asking her out, offering her something to find out if you’re “good enough” for HER. You are interested in finding out if she is good enough for YOU. Until you have determined that and she makes an effort to mean something to you, nothing else matters and her silly *rejection* means nothing too. FINE!! Shrug your shoulders.
Women only WANT to think they are “rejecting” you. And they want it to be as devastating to you as possible. So the next time it happens, you can smile about it because you know something she doesn’t. You were not interested in what she thought of YOU. You were only interested in knowing what you thought of HER. She just made your mind up for you, and saved you time, money, effort, and attention wasted on her.
Christ, when a women rejects you…. you could actually THANK her – and meant it.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.But it’s not. you’ve only been social;y conditioned to think that way. And so have they.
It FAILS the moment you refuse to subscribe to it. She can’t touch you. It’s IMPOSSIBLE. Oh yeah her claws will come out, but she can’t scratch you.
That is the key, right there. Social conditioning has in bondage as insidiously binding as any chain because it is invisible so we can pretend it is not there to hold us down. KeyMaster is right, as usual.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
“Then, use the rent for stripoers, hookers and other high end sex workers.”
I like your style, Stealthy. You’re not a victim of this stupid dating game created by our society.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
That is the key, right there. Social conditioning has in bondage as insidiously binding as any chain because it is invisible so we can pretend it is not there to hold us down. KeyMaster is right, as usual.
Right. I’ve gained a perception of what dating should be based on the ideas and experiences of other people (and also watching a lot of lame TV shows and movies). But living my life by my own rules nullifies what other people think I should do or how I should feel. That’s empowerment. It’s also a threat to those who want to establish the rules for our social interactions.
"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)
For me, the underlying reality here is that we are conditioned to judge ourselves by the “hotness” of the females we can take sexual control over, just as they judge themselves by the wealth, power and success of the men they can take financial control of.
Since before we were even humans, our progenitors were trading material resources for sexual access and it’s wired into our brains to try to be as wealthy and powerful and successful as we can to that end while its ingrained into females to try to appear as healthy and fertile as they can for the same reason,
Everything else comes out of that.
So when a “hot chick” rejects our sexual advances, what we hear in our lizard brains is that we are not wealthy, powerful or successful enough, so long as we follow this script and allow our ability (or lack there of) to f~~~ hot females be the benchmark by which we measure ourselves, this form of judgement will always hurt us, just as it hurts females when a rich, powerful and successful guy fails to show sexual interest in them.
For me MGTOW is about changing that script… it’s about realizing that we have intrinsic value as men and that we no longer need to judge ourselves by the level of sex appeal and fecundity of the females we can claim for ourselves. It’s not easy to undo the work of millions of years of evolution, but we have higher brains and self-awareness now and MGTOW is about using them to create and embrace a new system of self-awareness and meaning in our lives that doesn’t depend on validation so from superficially attractive females.
Once you have that understanding of your own self-worth in place, you really start to discriminate based on the real value that other people bring into your life and you find yourself disqualifying people way before they have a chance to “reject” you, This is the kind of confidence and integrity that, ironically, makes MGTOW more attractive to the kind of mundane females we would have been madly chasing before we took the red pill… and now that we have, they’re exactly the type of females we have very little interest in,
Enjoy the power of not caring what the “hot girls” think about you, it’s been millions of years coming and believe me, it’s worth the wait.
When even the unattractive bottom of the barrel females can be swarmed with attention from beta males and manginas it becomes apparent that somewhere down the line, something went horribly wrong.
When it comes to online dating, the one thing that has drastically f~~~ed us over is preconceived notions of chivalry. More specifically! the idea men must chase and initiate the first move, this is the foundations of an unbalanced “game” that has been exploited to its fullest at our expense.
The reason in which we first created these unwritten rules is now obsolete due to the shift in power that now favours the female as the dominant species. Now I know what your thinking…….but try and explain what power we actually have over women in this day and age? And Lettuce be cereal, if a man hits a woman in public he is demonised and punished, but if the tables are turned he is laughed at and ridiculed.
Our power is meaningless and holds no true value beyond pure aesthetics and in most cases…not even once.
We now find ourselves submissive to the decisions of a female and the outcome of our actions will rest entirely in her decision, whether it be casual sex or a cup of coffee.
To further complicate matters and create even more unbalance is the sheer amount of competition you are up against.
The layers upon layers of makeup that these females wear has significantly affected the playing field and made the game almost unplayable for the less attractive males who would otherwise stand a fair chance at meeting someone they could be happy with.
This has led to men being willing to offer financial security for a piece of the action, which In turn has created a domino effect causing many of the more desirable females to pursue this as well.
For many of us, We are playing a game we can’t win, Many will fall and some may even give up all together and join the other team.
We need to take action and stop putting these girls on a pedestal because as much as they would hate to admit it, they need us.You are chasing something you do not want. You pretty much know what women are like, otherwise you wouldn’t be here. So why? Why put energy into getting toxic waste just because someone said toxic waste is desirable? My point being; let the “whatever greek alphabet”-manginas get their females! They play a losing game anyhow. Just don’t be envious as their “success” will be their downfall.
Anonymous3If you are still emotionally affected by female rejection, it just means that your mind is still speaking in matrix code.
Like KeyMaster said, you’re the one offering her something. Stop using womanspeak in your mind. Think of it like this, every time you ask a girl out, doesn’t matter what you say, you are actually saying the same thing: “Can I be your slave?”
If she ends up rejecting you, what’s so bad about it? Whose loss is it? Another 10 seconds have passed and she’s now that much closer to the wall.
Men have internalized this so much and for so long. We are to believe that we simply have no other value to live for. We’re like house slaves, begging their slave masters to take and keep them, instead of embracing freedom. Free yourself, your value is not determined by how useful you are to females. Go your own way.
And because women don’t initiate, their options are severely limited to “choosing” only from the group of men who FEEL LIKE showing interest.
This one is so true. I was in a restaurant a few weeks back and heard someone walk up behind me in line. I turned my head to look…just a natural reaction, and it was a decent looking girl…probably late 20s.(the wall is near lol) I gave her a little smile, she smiled back…but I would have smiled if it was an old guy or land whale, I really didn’t mean anything by it. I didn’t say anything to her, didn’t try to strike up a conversation or anything. It was a small take out joint, and once I get my food I’m heading for the door, and she is sitting right by it. She’s got her chair c~~~ed at an odd angle, her leg half way out in the aisle, and she’s looking directly at me. I walked around her leg, didn’t look directly at her, stopped by the door to grab a napkin and a fork, turned 90 degrees, at which point I could see her looking at me with a look of frustration, and I proceeded out the door.
I was laughing hysterically inside. If a guy had done that to a woman they’d be complaining about manspreading and that creep that was staring at them, but here was a chick doing the same s~~~ trying to get my attention. She could have just said hi and I’d have stopped to chat, but instead she’d rather let the guy do all the work and remain limited to only those guys willing to do all the work. Its really interesting how this dynamic is changing between men and women…they want equality and chivalry at the same time and it seems like more and more guys are simply saying f~~~ it, this game sucks, why do I still have to play by the old rules and women get to rewrite them as they see fit?
Something else similar happened just last week. I live in a large building…100+ units…so I have a lot of neighbors. There are always new people in and out so I don’t really keep tabs on who is who…I know about a dozen or so of them that have also been here for a while and I’ll stop and shoot the s~~~ when I see them, but for the most part, most of the people here I’ve never talked to more than a basic hi or hows it going in passing, as most the time, unless its someone I start to see on a regular basis people are just a friend or something coming for a visit, so I’m not going to bother stopping and introducing myself to every person I see around here.
Anyways…I’m talking to this old retired guy last week….he’s always hanging around bored just looking for people to talk with, so he keeps up on the new people and who is who a lot more than I do. He asks me if I met the new girl that just moved in yet, and I say I probably saw her in passing but I’m not sure. He then proceeds to tell me how he was talking to her and she was asking about me…she thought I was cute and sees me walking the dog all the time, and asked if I’d like him to introduce us. I said “No thanks, I’m happy being single,” and his jaw almost hit the floor, it was like we both completely understood I practically had some pussy waved in front of my face and could care less lol. On one hand I’m thinking…I have no clue who the hell he is talking about, just going with the odds its going to be a land whale or single mom, and I’m not really sure dating someone who lives a 20 second walk down the hall from you is going to be a wise decision as I don’t plan on moving for at least another year and if she just signed a lease for a year I don’t want to be locked in to at least a years worth of drama, and on the other hand I’m thinking if she sees me walking the dog all the time is it that hard to cross paths? I’m not a stalker or anything, but take a walk out to the dumpster when I’m outside, or “forget” something in your car so we cross paths and “Hey cool dog, what kind is that?” Conversation started. Nah apparently its easier to try to get the talkative old guy to play match maker than to just say hi, because apparently its taboo for an interested woman to act like a normal human being.
I used to think women had the upper hand in dating, but then I realized they only have the upper hand if you give it to them. If you stop giving them the upper hand you begin to realize women actually suck at flirting and dating these days. You just have to remember dick for pussy is an even trade…if you offer a lot other than dick, and other than pussy her life is a train wreck…she should be chasing you, it should never be the other way around. Even if they still can pick up blue pillers/manginas, or get pumped and dumped by “bad boys” that would pump and dump practically anything with a wet hole, they aren’t ending up with what they want in the long run, they just end up desperate, bitter post wallers wondering where all the good men have gone lol. Meanwhile us MGTOW type are simply realizing how toxic modern women are, and the fact that a lot of them lack the skills to even start a basic conversation with a guy makes it even easier to avoid them!
Anonymous11If we play the game on their turf, we are truly powerless. Wining and dining them is only playing into their schemes. You are just one of many orbiters all being played against each other for her benefit.
As I got older, I finally realized that I only ever get laid whenever I do nothing. I’ve learned to let women approach me first or show obvious signs of interest as I ignore them. It puts me in the drivers seat plus she’s already pre-qualified herself as being interested in me. From there, I am interviewing her for the job instead of the other way around.. Most will fail by the way for various reasons. You also have to be willing to cut bait very quickly at the first whiff of crazy. Also, ignoring them does attract them. There are some who will lose interest the second you speak to them. They are not truly attracted to you and were just simply attention whoring. You just walk away no harm no foul.
I think we have to learn to play to our strong points which are unique to us as individuals. Guys I know who are naturals and way better than I am with attracting women all expend nearly zero effort and always no money.
You do have to get out of your house though. I’m lucky in that I live in a place that draws many tourists so I have an infinite supply of ever rotating targets should I chose to go trolling for some potential insanity in my life.
Of course, introduction of any woman into your life can lead to disastrous consequences for you. Physical harm up to and including your actual death, financial ruination, stalking behavior, STDs, unplanned fatherhood ,and entanglement with the legal system are just some of the possible side effects of interfacing with females.
Anonymous0Masterfully worded Sword
Men actually have a lot of potential power in the dating game but we give it all away to easily. Any woman can get laid no problem if she talks to guys that engage her no problem. Men love sex and to willingly admit/agree to sacrificing a lot for it. Woman use this to their advantage because their pussy is always in high demand.
Things like being Fit, well groomed, having good style, and decent financial status can massively increase your power and potential, especially if you stand your ground. Don’t chase woman and don’t comeback after initial rejection. It’s a waste of time.
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