Are any of you Musicians?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I’m classically trained in piano and violin. Dropped the violin at 15. I don’t mean I broke it, I just prefer the piano. It’s a “full orchestra with two hands”. It’s part of the reason I call myself “Keymaster”.

Completed Royal Conservatory of Music Grade 10 (at 14) and can train myself. Basically, if it’s written, I can play it. Chopin (extremely intricate and challenging – the guy was a f~~~ing genius). Gershwin. Rachmaninov’s Piano concerto, and the Variations on a theme of Paganini is my favorite of all time. Especially the 18th.

I don’t consider myself “talented”. I hate that word, because it implies my ability to play Chopin’s 23 preludes – from memory – is some natural gift, but I can only play it because of practice. “Talented” is writing it or being able to hear it and sit down and play it without any notes. I will never be that kind of musician who can sit down, stare at 88 keys, “see the music” and just play something. It had to be written already. Understanding Harmony is not a gift of mine either…. although I am strictly trained in rudaments and know all the scales, keys and chords … I can’t just play a series of chords and write my own song. I am , however , aware that’s just a mental block and many have told me it’s bulls~~~. But I don’t agree.

At the moment I am practicing this when inspired… and I just bought the sheet music not long ago. It sounds and looks harder than it is. Once I have learned it, I can throw away the notes.

My latest challenge is this … . I can play it… but not this fast. I’m at about 60% up to speed. It’s the kind of thing you have to be play perfectly slowly and then speed it up when you’ve got it down.

The last year or two I’ve not played nearly as much as I want to and am getting rusty.

Funny thing is, because the piano is a percussion instrument, it translates to my computer typing. I abuse and throw away 2 keyboards per year. When I am at work, and writing something passionately, people have to tell me to calm down because Im banging on my desk and making all kinds of noise. I am not even aware I’m doing it.

I greatly admire the kind of guy who can pick up a guitar and just start playing. Blows my mind.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

@ KeyMaster, I had a friend that was truly talented on lead guitar, folk, singing, base, and 12 string, his brother was amazing on the piano, his fingers were blurry and his percussion was astounding, he was an introvert by nature, it took me a long time to get him to trust me, he was extremely hyperactive, and would twitch when he felt uncomfortable around strangers, the both of them were REAL musicians. Not me, I’m just a see and say, my talents are more evenly dispersed. I have much appreciation for all we have in common! Thank-you MGTOWS! I no longer feel eccentric, but rather more normal! It’s nice to know I’m not only one that has this mindset.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

If I didn’t get bored easily and wasn’t so lazy I’d get serious about playing guitar. I have a couple but they are collecting dust.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[JjParticipant 178]

Thank you for sharing Keymaster; I especially like in the video when Jarrod made his way to the lower registers of the instrument, it was jarring and a joy to behold. Any times I have worked with a Key-Player (I can translate and play what I know on the strings to the keyboard, but am not proficient as with strings)  I’ve been envious and amazed by the the amount of range and playability of the instrument; with guitar and mandolin I’m constantly changing key of the pieces in order to fit on the fret boards the due to lack or range  (Mandolin and Violin have a very small range, guitar is a step up… but the keyboards… you guys have it all laid out right in front of you! Very cool) Right now I’m in the process in between my other projects of memorizing and cleaning up the dynamics of this piece by Bernard de Pace

<span style=”font-size: 16px; line-height: 1.5;”>Am also working with my guitarist on putting and accompaniment to this song.</span>

Can’t wait for the next MGTOW musician to share his interest; it’s good being a man!!!

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

This subject is so interesting.  I tried really hard to grasp the “nuts and bolts” concepts of theory.  In a purely clinical analysis, music at its core is merely a mathematical expression of the complex relation of various frequencies.  It really is a quantifiable science.  However, it is also a purely cathartic expression of emotion where one can violate the mathematical formulae of theory, get away with it, and stir deep emotional reactions in others.  Music is a beautiful non-verbal emotive dichotomy of communication that lives inside and outside of the laboratory.  There’s something very appealing about that to me and I can’t fully explain why because at a certain point words and/or language simply fail to convey the depth of emotion that moves me through music.

I have always admired those who can instantly interpret the math on a piece of sheet music.  I fall short on that front.  I understand enough theory to get me in trouble…or just get by.   Music for me has always been about instincts and feeling.  I have always had the ability to listen to a piece of music then pick up the guitar and just “know” what that artist is doing.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[JjParticipant 178]

As a child music was a “Magical” thing to me, and when I learned how to play and read, that went right out the window. Now it’s like looking at machine code, organizing patterns and how they relate. Pure mathematics (even the most discordant pieces can be explained). For me the magic is in bring (or creating) the piece to life. A part of my training I will roll a 12 sided dice  (I use a number generator on my smartphone) and choose a key signatures and will run scales, arpeggios, and chords up and down the fret board, then I’ll roll random numbers for chord progressions, decided on style (blues will use 7th chords, medieval music I leave the 3rd out of the chord, etc.) Then I improvise music to better understand the pattern and how they relate. I do this with both the guitar and mandolin; It’s got to the point I can sit across from a guitar player  (without listening) and visually interpret onto the mandolin. I’ve done alot of sit in’s for gigs over the years, no preparation, just instinct. I always wanted to learn a foreign Language; but with the mathematics of music, I’ll already have that. Sigh…. I lost the mystery – magical blah blah blah and replaced it with organisation, patterns, and the ability to express a feeling using a f~~~ing piece of wood with strings on it~

[JjParticipant 178]

If u guys know how to download torrents (piratebay.com, isohunt.com, demonoid.com, kickasstorrent.com etc.) There is a ton of free sheet music out there. I have sheetmusic for all of Jimi Hendrix albums-songs, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, etc. X1000 60′, 70s, 80, 90s the list goes on and on. Seek and you will find

[JjParticipant 178]

 

<span style=”line-height: 24px;”>BBC Howard Goodall’s Story of Music 1of6 The Age of Discovery</span>

I’m finishing up this series if anybody is interested.

[JjParticipant 178]

 

<span style=”line-height: 24px;”>Imagine – The Story of the Guitar Part 1 of 2- In the Beginning</span>

<span style=”line-height: 24px;”> </span>

This is good too.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

Before the topic disappeared where Jj was almost begging for some woman haters..I copied the Email he posted and shot this out to him..I do feel a bit sad about that exchange we had….

Hey Jj
I Live at the location posted and that is a real picture of me…I wish I could say something that would help with your anger..I do retract anything that was taken by you as an attack..none of what I posted was meant as such….I feel we are at a bad misunderstanding and ask that you reconsider participating in the forums at mgtow.com……..It  took years for my anger and bitterness to subside after my screwed up divorce but I had to deal with it without any help.. I only wished for a place with understanding folk like those at the forum….Whatever your choice in life,  I wish only the best results for you….sincerely HarpoMason

I need to learn to willfully create my passions and desires, to develop a capacity for intentional spontaneity, recognizing that without conscious choice, there is no spontaneity, only reaction and habit.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

Before the topic disappeared where Jj was almost begging for some woman haters..I copied the Email he posted and shot this out to him..I do feel a bit sad about that exchange we had….

Hey Jj
I Live at the location posted and that is a real picture of me…I wish I could say something that would help with your anger..I do retract anything that was taken by you as an attack..none of what I posted was meant as such….I feel we are at a bad misunderstanding and ask that you reconsider participating in the forums at mgtow.com……..It  took years for my anger and bitterness to subside after my screwed up divorce but I had to deal with it without any help.. I only wished for a place with understanding folk like those at the forum….Whatever your choice in life,  I wish only the best results for you….sincerely HarpoMason

I need to learn to willfully create my passions and desires, to develop a capacity for intentional spontaneity, recognizing that without conscious choice, there is no spontaneity, only reaction and habit.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Hey Harpo!

I’m just a little taken aback by how this cat went so far south so quickly.  I really enjoyed the exchange with him on this music thread.  Perhaps he was just trolling or perhaps he’s got some pretty big problems he doesn’t know how to constructively handle.  Maybe he’s just a fight looking for a plave to happen.  I realize divorce and the associated pain can drive a man to madness.  Hate, in the short term, can be a catalyst for much needed change in the positive.  Sounds odd but I have found truth in that in my own life.  I have channeled ill feelings in to positive things like working out. In the process I not only improved my body but I also improved my mind and spirit.  However, when anger lingers and eats away at the insides of a man it is just like a cancer.  That perpetually angry man may think he’s showing the world that “no man dare even think about f~~~ing with me”, but ultimately he is screaming, “I am mortally wounded and slowly dying.”  Unfortunately, when a man professes the chip on his shoulder as our friend did then I’m afraid sooner or later someone will gladly expedite the cure for his misery when challenged to do so.

Hope our musical friend finds some inner peace.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

I was a DJ when I was very young.  Huge appreciation and knowledge of music.  Later, I watched as my brother played the s~~~ out of acoustic guitar.  My failed attempts at acoustic and electric guitar were difficult to accept.  Later, though, I found that I had a natural ability to keep the beat, and percussion is my new toy.  Thank god.  Now I beat the s~~~ out of electronic drums in my garage (only place big enough for my toys).  DJ days have left me with a huge supply of classic stuff to play along with.  Novice, still, but when I get drunk the whole thing seems to get easier.  Now I just need to find a Cajon that can handle my 300 pounds.

BVC

 

 

BVC

 

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

Big Viking Chef BVC wrote:

I was a DJ when I was very young. Huge appreciation and knowledge of music. Later, I watched as my brother played the s~~~ out of acoustic guitar. My failed attempts at acoustic and electric guitar were difficult to accept. Later, though, I found that I had a natural ability to keep the beat, and percussion is my new toy. Thank god. Now I beat the s~~~ out of electronic drums in my garage (only place big enough for my toys). DJ days have left me with a huge supply of classic stuff to play along with. Novice, still, but when I get drunk the whole thing seems to get easier. Now I just need to find a Cajon that can handle my 300 pounds. BVC BVC

I may sound totally crazy here but I’m 47 and I have really gotten in to a lot of the European dance/trance/tripnotic/psybient in the past 2 years.  I listen to stuff like Solar Fields, H.U.V.A. Network, Alpha Wave Movement, and Carbon Based Lifeforms, etc.  There is something very calming about this music to me.  It has really helped me focus on getting through some tough personal s~~~ these past couple of years.  I have a really open mind when it comes to music.  I am still discovering music for myself even at 47.  Music is like a frontier with no boudaries to me!

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Anonymous 42]

Soul Man wrote:

Music is like a frontier with no boudaries to me!

@Soul Man, I listen to that kind or stuff on Sirius/XM, I have a life time subscription, I don’t think they make that offer anymore.

On terrestrial radio, I only listen to AM! FM and all the f~~~ing “noise” and music played endlessly over and over and over and over, the same f~~~ing song, makes me want to blow my f~~~ing brains out!

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

I’m getting back into being a musician after many years. Starting over from scratch as a bassist. When I was 18, a had a nice Ibanez bass and 2 Marshall amps. My dad let my 17 y/o sister play around with it once day, and she fried my whole set up. No replacement of my equipment, not even a sorry. Now, I’m starting a new life in a different part of the country soon, and a new bass is in my future.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[RoyDalParticipant]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

Starting over from scratch as a bassist.

Go for it! I have a pal who is lead guitar in his own band. The point is, his hardest problem was finding a bass guitar with the chops and dedication to play gigs every weekend. Good on ya, mate!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Soulman, here’s one for you.  Some of the best s~~~ the Moonshine Bandits ever did.  The guitars are what I appreciate in this little ditty.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

I also play guitar and mandolin and dabble a little with bass. I’m a little fish in a big pond here in Nashville, so I just play to entertain myself and friends mostly, but I did play professionally and semi-pro in my 20’s.

MG-Tower, it makes me happy that you brought up Robert Johnson. That guy is one of my all-time heroes. He lived and worked in an era that had the deck stacked against him, but he changed the whole face of western popular music. Without Robert Johnson we’d have no Muddy Waters or Chuck Berry, in turn we’d have no Elvis or Johnny Cash, no Beatles, Rolling Stones, Clapton, Grateful Dead, Allman Brothers, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, then we’d have no Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Metallica, et cetera ad nauseum…

I guess we’d have no Kanye West either, but sometimes you gotta take one for the team.

[Anonymous 42]

It all started at the X roads…

 

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Robert Johnson is amazing.  Wish there was some top quality recordings of him somewhere.

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[Author]

Posts