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Anonymous54In this case your dont even know if it was rejection.The reality in life is that some people will accept you and some wont.Focus on those that accept you.
Anonymous1I haven’t been out on the dating/pickup scene per se for some time now (a couple of f~~~buddy girls on the side is all), but when I get rejected or treated badly by women, that s~~~ can spin around in my head for days
The dating scene is something I gave up on before even finding MGTOW. You have to jump through all sort of hoops and the expectations on men dating is high.
I use to be a serial tinder user, went on dozens of dates over a few years. I’d say I slept with around 80% of them but only 2 on the first date. The financial cost for me, ran into the thousands.
I dont think anyone on here will tell you dating is a good idea, I doubt most would recommend pick-up, but its a damn site cheaper.
You should check out this topic I started last week. I met this toxic bitch on tinder, and she’s still causing me hassle to this day.
Its amused me that I opened up with a line about about removing all interactions with women and its an interaction with a woman this weekend that started this topic.
If you’re doing this for validation though, know this, it never brought me any, and I’m still a little sensitive to even perceived rejection. I think this is a hangover from my blue pill days. The further I move into red pill, the more the f~~~s given will dissipate.
That’s the plan anyway 🙂
and I had zero sexual interest.
Then why do you care? Just chalk it up to another woman being a bitch c~~~ and get on with your life. AWALT. She has nothing you want. She’s not worth wasting your time on. Even wondering about her behavior is giving her more than she deserves.
I do feel sorry for the poor, stupid bastard she was there with, though.
I cannot get my head around this one
Well… since you JUST MET her, there are a MILLION reasons why women behave like that and you know NONE of them have anything to do with you.
Thats a 100% certainty.
There’s a lot of s~~~ going on women’s heads all the time. I think it’s pointless to care about any of it, when you know it couldn’t have anything to do with you.
Based on the info you gave, this doesn’t require any theorizing.
Personally, I wouldn’t have walked off.
I would have found it “funny” and said “boy, she’s light on manners. What’s the attraction?”.
Oh yeah. I would have.
When a woman can’t even display basic manners and everyday courtesy, the “why” is as insignificant as the gum under your shoe. Scrape it off and forget about it.
Then why do you care?
Exactly. The reason for her behavior is totally irrelevant.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You should check out this topic I started last week. I met this toxic bitch on tinder, and she’s still causing me hassle to this day.
I did originally see your topic but didn’t respond. Will check it out at your request and read what others said.
The most insane bitch I ever knew demonstrated all those traits. She even booked flight across the country and “surprised” me at work without telling me she was coming – and I never even slept with her! She wasn’t even my girlfriend!
FIRST automatic thought is “tell her you’re broke” but that might not work if she’s escalated to stalking behaviors. So more later…..
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3I once was curious about the word respect. So I went to see its original meaning. It comes from latin and means: look again.
The way I see it, it mean that you get respect when people look at you. Another way of saying it, is that you are important to other people.
We do like respect from people we know, but we also want social respect from strangers. That is why we respect others and behave under socially accepted rules.
However if you operate under certain rules you are handicapped with someone that breaks the rules. Unless there is consequences, these people will play us and laugh about it.
So what to do? I believe that the solution is to follow the rules voluntarily, and not automatically. This is easier said than done… As in many other things we actually dont have as much free will as we like to think.
the word respect. So I went to see its original meaning. It comes from latin and means: look again.
I found that very interesting just now(!).
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Forget respect, she’s void of any manners.
This isn’t about “respect”, or attraction… it’s about basic decency. Respect is up to Joller to earn and when the time comes, he’s prepared. But let’s not confuse basic manners with that.
Pretend she’s 75 years old. Would ANY 75 year old woman behave that way when you are introduced to her, you say hello and stretch your hand out? She wouldn’t even THINK of behaving that way. Even if she doesn’t like your clothes, your hair or your shoes or whatever.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42MGTower (or anyone else) – could you give me some examples of pre-engineered responses? I think that would be really helpful.
Any kind of rude or bad behavior should be treated with “utter abandonment”<<<<engineered response.
We’re not some sort of pin cushion voodoo doll for women to poke at. The s~~~ tests are countless and immeasurable, just make sure you FAIL at everyone of them!
Unless your ear is a flush handle there’s no reason to pass a s~~~ test.
On manginas both ears flush…..she might have just had a row with the BF
This is my guess also.
Talking about rejections – the ones that really make my blood boil – is when you say hello and she acts like she doesn’t hear you and doesn’t see you. I have to control myself to not yell Hello again right in her face.
Some bitches are so disrespectful it’s beyond lack of manners. I had a gf who would outright tell other guys “f~~~ you” if someone approached her at the club while she was with me, regardless if a guy was nice and polite or what not. I even felt bad for the guys to the point where I had to ask her to stop embarrassing me
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Anonymous1I did originally see your topic but didn’t respond. Will check it out at your request and read what others said
O I wrote that before you posted in response to biggvs_dickvs post about getting back into dating.
I heard from that c~~~ again over the weekend. She’s now trying to hit me up for half the cost of a parking ticket she got whilst we were together. We’d been shopping but over ran the meter.
I would have found it “funny” and said “boy, she’s light on manners. What’s the attraction?”.
Oh yeah. I would have.
When a woman can’t even display basic manners and everyday courtesy, the “why” is as insignificant as the gum under your shoe. Scrape it off and forget about it.I wish I had responded with something like that. I dont normally get wound up by c~~~y behaviour from women (it is to be expected), but this bitch behaving like a right stuck up C.U.N.T really got to me and it shouldn’t have.
I have a lot to learn (and unlearn).
MGTower (or anyone else) – could you give me some examples of pre-engineered responses? I think that would be really helpful.
I haven’t been out on the dating/pickup scene per se for some time now (a couple of f~~~buddy girls on the side is all), but when I get rejected or treated badly by women, that s~~~ can spin around in my head for days.
Plenty.
In the above situation I would have been “amused” and said out loud: “boy, she’s light on manners. What’s the attraction?”. Since she’s treating him like he doesn’t exist, extend her the very same courtesy and talk about her like she’s not even there – right in front of her.
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On being dissed or “rejected” by women, consider it meaningless and adopt the attitude:
You don’t know her yet.
Therefore she doesn’t MEAN anything to you yet.
And since she doesn’t mean anything to you….
Her “rejection” can’t possibly mean anything to you either.Done. You’re instantly cured of all rejection anxiety.
In recent years I actually internalize the thought “every woman wants me and wants me to f~~~ her”. I’m serious. Yes, I know it’s not true, but now any “rejection” (or uncalled-for attitude) is actually flows off like water off a ducks back…. like “She must be joking. Thats cute”.
Some great canned responses are:
• “Cute”.
• “If you say so”.—- OR —
“I have a boyfriend”.
“That’s adorable. Let me know when you’re ready for a MAN.”
“I have a boyfriend”.“Does he let you speak to other people without his permission?”
“I have a boyfriend”.
“I just met you and you’re already telling me your problems?”
After a while, female rejection becomes HILARIOUS. Treat it that way and be amused by it – especially when you haven’t shown any real interest in her yet. Women LOVE to think they are “rejecting” anyone before you even determined if you like her at all! Never let them get away with that.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous1Some bitches are so disrespectful it’s beyond lack of manners. I had a gf who would outright tell other guys “f~~~ you” if someone approached her at the club while she was with me, regardless if a guy was nice and polite or what not.
A lack of manners has always been something that’s raised my blood pressure. Perhaps I’m just expecting too much from some people. Especially the demographic that is women.
this bitch behaving like a right stuck up C.U.N.T really got to me and it shouldn’t have.
That’s easy. We’ve all done it. Uncalled for female “dissing” is irritating because you don’t even know where it COMES from. You’re being kind, showing attention and interest, and they behave you have the cooties, or she’s “too good” to speak to you?
And what do men do? We think “why is she doing that? Should I practice more “GAME”? I f~~~ed up. I should have said something else…..”
No!
She has no manners. Plain and simple.
Don’t mistaken her lack of manners for anything else.Pay attention, and the lack of basic manners in women is f~~~ing staggering.
CALL. THEM. OUT.Relentlessly. And be amused by it.
I have a lot to learn (and unlearn).
Only this: Her rejection is as meaningless as her approval.
The other day, I said “good afternoon” to a woman coming out of an elevator while I was going in. She said nothing but an uncomfortable smile. Before the door closed, I said (to myself out loud!) “She could use a good f~~~”…. just loud enough for to hear it… and then the door closed. I heard her YELLING at the elevator, and I couldn’t stop laughing.
The day you stop giving a s~~~, you’re golden.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.A lack of manners has always been something that’s raised my blood pressure.
Same here. It’s infuriating.
The day you stop giving a s~~~, you’re golden.Perhaps I’m just expecting too much from some people. Especially the demographic that is women.
Expect basic decency and manners is expecting NOTHING. But no matter how low you lower the floor of expectation for women, they will always manage to fall below it.
Basic manners is zero. Make that your absolute floor, and insist on it.
She can hate your f~~~ing guts, but she’d better not be rude.Even if an extreme bitch I can’t stand were to approach a dinner table, I would stand up. Just like I would for any man. Even if I didn’t like him, it’s still “good evening”.
It’s a real (lost) art form.
Have you ever watched the show “Downton Abbey”?? It’s very good. It’s mangina TV but there is an art to not liking someone with class. No matter how much they hate each other, they always maintain manners as a minimum.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous1The other day, I said “good afternoon” to a woman coming out of an elevator while I was going in. She said nothing but an uncomfortable smile. Before the door closed, I said (to myself out loud!) “She could use a good f~~~”…. just loud enough for to hear it… and then the door closed. I heard her YELLING at the elevator, and I couldn’t stop laughing.
The day you stop giving a s~~~, you’re goldenHaha enjoyed reading that. B~~~~ of steel – I guess that comes with not giving a f~~~.
I will make it a goal to start calling women out on their s~~~.
C~~~s just are, and always will be. I need to swallow another red one, and giving less f~~~s.
I’ve been in situations where women gave me ZERO respect a lot. Even during my years of being around a bunch of blue pill friends, I’ve had times where the women there just outright ignored me. Even for just asking them for help or stating something pertaining to the current convo and they’d never acknowledge me.
It used to bother me and still does from time to time. Logically, I know now that I shouldn’t give a f~~~ about that s~~~ in general. But, emotionally, it still gets to me every now and then. I’m just thinking it’s because I was raised as a blue pill tradcon and growing up, I expected women to show respect to others.
Now I know most women won’t ever show respect to others at all.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
Anonymous1Expect basic decency and manners is expecting NOTHING. But no matter how low you lower the floor of expectation for women, they will always manage to fall below it.
Basic manners is zero. Make that your absolute floor, and insist on it.
She can hate your f~~~ing guts, but she’d better not be rude.Yep I see your point. Allowing someone to get away with s~~~ty, rude behaviour only contributes. I should absolutely demand basic manners or call it out.
Have you ever watched the show “Downton Abbey”?? It’s very good. It’s mangina TV but there is an art to not liking someone with class.
My ex use to watch it. I’d just stick my headphones in and get the laptop out. If its good for calling people out, and general high class dissing, maybe I’ll have a watch next time I see it on.
I will make it a goal to start calling women out on their s~~~.
The beauty of it is… women are almost NEVER prepared for that.
Use it to your advantage.Pretend you’re back in that scenario where you met that girl. If you had said what I suggested, SHE would have been shocked and very likely the one to storm off – instead of you.
Thats’ the position you want to be in. Be “the better man”.
Rub her nose in the fact she’s lacking manners.
It will p~~~ her off beyond belief.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Guys, if someone treats you badly in your first brief encounter with the person, it is not you, it is them. They probably treat a lot of strangers like that in their first encounters with them, but you probably think that out of everyone in the world, they would only do it to you! You got to understand that sometimes, you have to be respectful to everyone, because it is a good habit to have. If you abuse your dog in a very inhumane way, chances are you also abuse certain human beings in your life as well, because that is how the world works. If you work at a stock clerk at a Walmart and a customer treated you bad, do you actually think that they treated you bad because they know you personally? I can bet that the only reason why they even would treat you badly as a stock clerk is not because of you yourself, but because they treat every stock clerk like that like if all stock clerks owe them something. The only reason why you seem flustered by it all is because you are not use to this. If this girl is like one of the only people in your life who did this to you in this way, I really shouldn’t be worried since it is obviously not your fault.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
In my experiences most women do not understand basic greeting skills when meeting new people. Extending a hand to shake is beneath a lot of them. A “Hi” is about all you will get. Men could not get away with that for long of course and would be labeled a dick that people don’t want to deal with almost instantly. Chicks have a vagina so its all good.
Like some of the others said….she is probably p~~~ed about something and trying to ruin her boyfriends night by acting like a bitch. Has nothing to do with you I promise. She is just bitching it up for some reason or another.
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