Any advice? Wife who cried rape… (UK)

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  • #266866
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    Wolf redpillman
    Wolf redpillman
    Spectator
    1658

    If i were you i go to cuba no extradition treating get that f~~~ out

    #266878
    +3
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    If i were you

    If were him I would actively assist in my own defense and do my own homework on “rape” in the UK.

    British rape stats reports roughly 12,000 men are “raped” in England and Wales every year. And we also know that as many as 100% of British c~~~s who say they were “raped” are LYING. Men don’t lie and say we were “raped” when we were NOT.

    Take for example women who are NOT your own wife. It’s much easier for a woman to LIE and say her drink was tampered with than it is for a wife to prove her own husband (whom she pretend to “love”) ever “raped” her. So lets look at that.

    Not long ago, it was stated that in the UK, Rohypnol has never ever been used in a case of sexual misconduct. I say sexual misconduct because “rape” is a crass and manipulative word. I refused to use it from now on. Women have raped the true meaning of the word “rape”.

    Someone performed a study anyway, and here are the results of that study in the form of a boot straight up the ass of anyone who is culturally prejudiced against the way women are treated in the Middle East.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-436592/Drug-rape-myth-exposed-study-reveals-binge-drinking-blame.html

    Over 12 months, and out of 75 female patients who claimed to be “victims” of sexual misconduct and drink tampering with Rohypnol, GHB, or ketamine, 0% were found to have it in their system.

    ZERO. F~~~ING. PERCENT.

    In an unsurprising twist, 100% of these women were found to be drunk out of their trees.
    And she did that to HERSELF.

    • 55% of “rape victims” had a blood alcohol content of twice the legal driving limit.
    • 25% of “rape victims” were three times over the limit.
    • 20% of “rape victims” tested positive for amphetamines.

    When a british bitch says she’s a “rape victim”, you’ve even got a 20% chance of her being on amphetamines. I’m no vagina doctor, but I’m pretty sure they don’t put amphetamines in the birth control pills that none of these whores were taking when they hit Ladies Night like a drunken tornado of abandonment issues.

    After reading through the research article (above), which I suggest to anyone who’s first instinct is still to listen when a woman starts talking, I realized the horrible truth of what’s going on in the UK. Out of this group of women, 100% of them LIED.

    100%

    In fact commenting on claims that Rohypnol had played a part , Julie Bentley, chief executive of the Suzy Lamplight Trust said: “As far as I am aware, there has never been a case of Rohypnol in this country found.

    SO EVERY SINGLE BRITISH BITCH – in the entire country – who ever claimed to be a “victim of drink tampering” was lying her f~~~ing ass off. If 100% they will lie about that, they will lie about everything else too. A woman will pretend to be “victim” of getting a flat tire when she drives herself off a cliff.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #266891
    +4

    Anonymous
    42

    Out of this group of women, 100% of them LIED.

    100%

    Stats like that are why I’m happy being a peaceful hobbit in the woods, beats being tortured in every way imaginable and unimaginable by today’s monstrous women!

    #266908
    +5
    IAmMan
    IAmMan
    Participant
    228

    S~~~ man. It tears me up that this is happening to you. A man does not deserve to be treated like this.

    just can’t see where I went wrong

    You did not, she did. Do not forget that.

    Please keep us up to date on what is happening. Keep your head about you and DO NOT GIVE UP.

    #267008
    +3

    Goddamn it! My first response was to tell you to just leave the country,I sympathise for you man. The only out I see is to lawyer up and hope for the best because the milk is already on the floor.Stay the hell away from her and record any interaction you have. How the hell can a husband rape his wife,this s~~~ is crazy!

    To all you purple pill idiots thinking you can get some chick from a 3rd world country and bring her to your country and think her values will not change use this for an example. AWALT is real and we cant think any different.

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #267011
    +3
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Stats like that are why I’m happy being a peaceful

    Shrek was perfectly content before he met Fiona. Anybody who thinks it’s just a fairy tale can go f~~~ themselves, because “happily ever after” is only possible without a woman.

    Here’s another stat for you about women in the UK……
    Think you’re happier now? You will be ecstatic after knowing this:

    60% of brides in the UK used dirty tricks to get engaged and married:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1251655/Six-brides-used-dirty-tricks-engagement-ring-finger.html

    And those are just c~~~s who admit it. So the number is WAY higher than that, but let’s keep it at 3 out of 5 right now. 60% of all brides in the UK are deceptive instead of being lovely people. That’s the number they WANT you to know, but what about the number they DON’T want you to know? It’s already clear AgentSmith married one of them. Had he known this in advance, he wouldn’t have married her at all.

    If she will deceive to get married…. what will she do for a UK passport and a divorce?
    She’s incentivized to do it.

    We already know 100% of British drunk women lie about their drinks being spiked and are not “victims” of anything at all. And AT LEAST 2/3rds of brides are hideous and un-marriageable to the core and resort to trickery and deception.

    The only thing left now is I’ve been advised to get as many character references as I can.

    Your wife is already in the WORST POSSIBLE demographic of women in all the world. You don’t need as many references to make yourself look good as she does.

    60% of U.K. women use dirty tricks — just to get ENGAGED.
    Slippery, underhanded, deceitful c~~~s.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #267952
    +7
    The Oracle Cypher
    The Oracle Cypher
    Participant
    9

    Your post made me create this account so I could mention some things that hopefully will work in your favor. I don’t know much about law and each paragraph in the law book, but I know how to defend.

    In post #266769 3rd paragraph:

    “No I can’t leave the country, I have to stick to my bail which involves no contact with her and remaining in the country. I have been sticking to my bail religiously – and you know what? My wife is constantly harassing myself and my family via social media and through other means. It’s so twisted that she can do whatever she likes without consequence and I can’t do anything at all. The police don’t give a s~~~, they’re firmly on her side and I’m to just deal with it.”

    This can work as proof that you’re the one respecting your boundaries in this case, but she is not – she’s the one initiating, she expects YOU to respond so she can later on twist words, shed tears and tell the courts how they’re meant to interpret your response whether it was from E-mail, Facebook or SMS – The Point of her doing this is to display how threatened she feels when you wrote back – and please DON’T respond her. Doesn’t matter if the message is appeal to a “co-operation” because no matter how forgiving YOU are to her, she will push you even further on “HOW” you made her feel and when you respond back she will use this as “See, he doesn’t co-operate with me, he’s abusive” -etc.

    Technical tools you can use:

    iOS and Android displays date and clock to separate messages. This is helpful when you can pinpoint after you were told to hold bail you stuck to it, while SHE initiated contact.

    The date and clock feature looks like this:

    iOS: http://www.chriswrites.com/wp-content/uploads/8-iOS-8-SMS-on-iPad.png
    Android: http://www.inlovewithandroid.com/images/handcent-sms-conversation-text-app-for-android.jpg

    Do NOT delete your SMS, E-Mail or social media posts whether it’s from Facebook whatever.

    You can take snapshots of your IOS/Android messages as evidence like this:

    iOS: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200289
    Android: http://www.wikihow.com/Take-Screenshots-on-an-Android

    The photos are stored chronologically with the prefix IMG_(sequential numbers) in your camera roll.
    Evidence can also be accumulated on the PC/Mac by taking screenshots.

    On windows use Snipping Tool
    On Mac: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201361

    Take screenshots of Facebook on browser, when she’s giving your family trouble (which is every time) via post and messages.

    Sorry for the long winded response, but I really felt compelled to write all the details so it can help you.

    Another thing – please enjoy your life so you can avoid burnout for the case build up. I’m not telling you look at the bright side of a train wreck, but the more you let HER talking s~~~ and behave bats~~~ crazy while you STORE and collect this behavior it can ease your everyday until this nightmare is settled. She’s being desperate to make you produce bad moves.

    Spend time with your family and friends and perhaps you could tell them that when your abuser initiates conversation, they can tell her to leave them alone, but if she keeps pushing screenshot it. I really believe telling your family would be extremely beneficial on how this case affected your family as well. Your family are witnesses. Ask your lawyer if they can be part of the court case.

    Take care of yourself brother. And thank you MGTOW admins for letting me post this!

    #268793
    +3
    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    @oracle Cypher.

    Thanks very much for contacting us and joining just to help out Agent Smith.
    Extremely cool of you.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #268850
    +3
    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    You owe it to yourself to simply leave. You won’t get a fair trial and by leaving you lose nothing that isn’t already lost. These legal battles always complicated and they are designed for profit.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #268910
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    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant
    4352

    When i went thru seperation and divorce my ex harrassed the s~~~ out of my family by phone.Almost 17 years ago.Finnaly they changed their phone numbers.She was just trying to provoke a reaction so she could claim to be a victem.
    DELETE ALL SOCIAL MEDIA NOW!Her only contact point should be thru your LEGAL COUNSEL.Let her act a fool to them if she is brazen enough to do that.Her being able to contact you thru you and your familys social media is a weak point in the armor that you need to be putting on now.
    Any assets that you can liquidate do it now.Cash your paychecks and live by cash alone.Stash away cash for now.Bury it somewhere if you have to.If you have a nice car sell it and drive something much cheaper or take public transportation.Any gold or valuables?Give them to someone to hold(in secret). Change jobs.Start looking for a new job.Dont let your employer be a point of contact for her.If she knows where you live MOVE OUT.Get as far away from her as you can.So you can prove you are no where near her if she trys to make more false accusations.Dont ever evrer ever respond to anything she says.ALL thru legel counsel…If you dont have kids with her BE VERY F~~~ING GLAD!!!
    Women use kids like a carpender uses a hammer.
    As a man NOBODY gives a f~~~ about you.Not a judge,not a cop,nobody.No one single government employee.As men we are disposable.
    If you ever saw a Nat Geo documentary about Amazon/South/Central American Indians,those are my exes people.No such thing as a foreign NAWALT.No such thing as a woman who just wants to love you and wipe your tears and support you emotionaly and otherwise.Women see men as a big pet on a barbwire leash who can get them what they want.When the f~~~er dosent get you what you want shoot the f~~~er and get another.That is how women see men.All that s~~~ about love is nothng but smoke and mirrors.Love and companionship is a carrot on a stick that you will never get.A racing dog that does not win races is put down.Same thing for men.Or until the dog owner finds a faster dog.Then he is put down.And nobody gives a damn if the dog is realy a man.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #268911
    +2
    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
    Participant
    4352

    My exes people go around naked in the jungle.Especialy the men.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #269029
    +2
    The Oracle Cypher
    The Oracle Cypher
    Participant
    9

    Thanks for having me 🙂

    #269292
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    Chuddox
    Chuddox
    Participant
    585

    @Agent Smith Oracle is right. Document, document, document. Write down, record, and screenshot everything. Ignore her calls, ignore her texts, ignore her tweets, or FB posts. Read them, and save them, but ignore them. Total contact blackout

    10 years I’ve been in corrections. I can’t tell you the number of guys I’ve seen f~~~ed over by the system that frankly doesn’t give a rats ass if you are guilty or not.

    You are right to take everything to trial. Get as many men on your jury as you can. If even one has a crazy f~~~ing ex, you are solid. I don’t know about UK jury trial, sorry, or I’d be more help. But, in general, every trial I’ve seen is a horrible case of making you (the defendant) look like the biggest piece of s~~~ on the planet. The prosecution doesn’t want to convict you on fact, they want to convict you on unpopularity. So remember, no outbursts, be calm, testify, and SHOW abhorrence to the thought of rape. A man who is so thoroughly appalled by it wouldn’t possibly ever do it. Don’t SAY she is a manipulative c~~~, show it. That is where all this saved evidence comes in. Show her harassing and baiting you, your family, and friends. Show false attempts at reconciliation as attempt to get you into trouble. Question, out loud, why if you raped her, she would even try to contact you or your family? What purpose does it serve? Who in their right mind tries to contact their rapist? Therefore she is either not in her right mind, and she can’t be believed due to instability or you didn’t rape her and she can’t be believed due to her being a consciously manipulating liar. Always answer the questions directly in court, but if left room, always follow with your own question directed toward her motivations. It gives the judge/jury a concrete answer to question asked, but plants the seed of doubt.

    It is important to display disappointment, betrayal, and love toward her. Like you are genuinely confused by all this (which you may be). Point out the “special” times you had together, and how much you loved her. Point out all the good ways she made you feel, and all of the times she initiated intercourse, and how even if you didn’t want to you complied because you just want to “make her happy”. If you’ve ever taped a sexual encounter where she initiated the sex, use it. It will both portray her as a willing participant, and show how she, and not you, was the sexual ‘aggressor’

    Never appear as angry, or the aggressor, toward her, or the prosecution (And the prosecution will try to anger you. Your attorney should prep you, by attacking you in “mock trial”, in front of others (to increase the embarrassment) this will prepare your reactions to The Crown’s questioning and let you know what to expect.

    Lastly, always remember that she is your enemy. Everything I told you to remind her of, you must shut the same feelings out. She is a lying bitch out to take you for everything you are worth. Treat her in your mind, as you would a man who had betrayed you. She is your lover no longer. All of this is pantomime for the court, and for the benefit of showing her for what she is to the rest of the world.

    “Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

    #269465
    +3

    Anonymous
    54

    Listen to Chuddox. He knows what he is talking about. Pray there are some damn Men on the jury.

    #269931
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    Motiv
    Motiv
    Participant
    441

    Everything from her is white noise you must clear it all from your mind and only think about your defense, Do not let this woman destroy you in court or let the hate consume you.
    Wise words from others above man stay strong and as said go find some time to clear your head.

    Cool story babe now go make me a sandwich

    #270550
    +4

    Anonymous
    25

    Making malicious false assertions is a crime. The prosecution guidance on it is:

    The definition of harassment was considered in Plavelil v Director of Public Prosecutions [2014] EWHC 736 (Admin), in which it was held that the repeated making of false and malicious assertions against a doctor in connection with an investigation by the GMC could amount to a course of harassment. The Court of Appeal rejected the argument that malicious allegations could not be oppressive if they could easily be rebutted.

    Make a complaint to the police that she has harassed you by making malicious false assertions. Speak to the National Stalking Helpline (google their details). Go see a male solicitor about getting an injunction against her. If you suffer any distress as a result of her making malicious allegations have it noted on your medical records. If they diagnose you as suffering from any medical condition as a result of her abuse, you may be able to obtain legal aid for free legal representation.

    Do not trust the police, make sure all your communication with them is audit trailed. There is a specialist ‘end violence against women and girls’ unit and they lie and falsify records. If they do that then that’s harassment too and a criminal offence as that is outside their role as a police officer and they are on a frolic of their own and not investigating crime.

    You want to strongly consider getting an injunction against this women asap for her harassing you. You may want to consider getting a solicitor to send her an harassment warning letter. Try and get a solicitor to send an warning letter to the police too that they harassed you and wrongfully arrested you. Put in a complaint to the police that your ex is harassing you and that they are enabling your abuser. You should then get to speak to an inspector, and if not insist. Tell him in writing that everything is being audit trailed and then he will have to pull rank on the corrupt end violence against women and girls unit and tell them to knock it off.

    Keep a diary. Don’t have any contact with her unless essential such as to arrange what’s best for children. Audit trail all communication with her.

    My ex tried to pull all kinds of crap on me. The police daren’t even arrest me which is rarely heard of. Now I have them busted for attempting to falsify records.

    A case is being built against police and false accusers, so keep all evidence you gather indefinitely. One day it will be used to screw them into the ground and they will go to jail.

    #270999
    +2
    Agent Smith
    Agent Smith
    Participant
    71

    Guys, I wanna thank you for all your advice – I have been visiting daily and absorbing everything, I feel like… what’s the point in this life anymore then? I will keep you updated as this case progresses, it’s going to drag on towards the end of this year but I’ll see what I can do to keep you posted.

    I’m seriously in need of female character references or witnesses – I have none in my life. But I’m strongly advised to get anyone, any help, I can – preferably, females – who can say “yeah, I’ve met him, he’s alright”. IRL I’m the most gentle guy you’ll meet, I fear that is slowly changing. I just don’t know who to trust anymore. If anyone can offer some aid with the above that would be extremely useful.

    I’ve taken onboard all the other advise, a case is built up chronologically, everything screenshotted (all communications), other character references taken, pictures etc. and female representation for court – for which my solicitor has found the perfect one.

    On a positive note, my other solicitor dealing with the divorce (my criminal one is separate), now has the go ahead for decree nisi and then eventually decree absolute. Since my wife is not cooperating at all and refusing communications – instead posting on social media saying something along the lines of “I’ve won”… and some very insulting remarks against my family and I. All recorded of course.

    Help? 🙁

    #271749
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    Chuddox
    Chuddox
    Participant
    585

    Again, not positive on british law, but here I know if the divorcee refuses to show up to court that you can “after a reasonable period” divorce them in absentia (without them present). In fact, this may go in your favor, since you get to provide any and all evidence regarding the circumstances of the divorce, so lay it all out for the judge however you like

    “Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

    #272198
    +1
    Agent Smith
    Agent Smith
    Participant
    71

    Guys, the police/CPS or whatever have disclosed about 75% of all their ‘evidence’ that they had for the defendant(s) i.e. my legal representatives and I to go over. It’s pretty grim. There’s so much bulls~~~ and contradictions and crocodile tears, in fact pretty much all of it is what she did to me except reversed and exaggerated (saying that I did all these things to her).

    For now, the criminal case is far higher priority now. Un-f~~~ing-believable, she’s turned practically everyone in the community where I’ve lived all my life against me (all of them with the exception of some doctors, females). These are considered witnesses. She came into the country, what, 3 months? How the f~~~ did she manage this?! All of it is timelined and planned right from the start. It’s all her confiding in everyone over a period of time right up until the arrest, with emotions and tears etc.

    The whole damn system is dominated by females too.

    Goddamn, why did I not discover this site before. Does no one realise I’ve been coping with anxiety for most of my life and incapable of harming anyone and avoid confrontations? The police aren’t interested in falsifying her allegations, they are not there to defend me, they are simply there to cherry pick messages, anecdotes, statements etc. so long as it’s in her favour!

    And also how the f~~~ can any guy have sex for 9 times in one night each session lasting up to 4 hours?! They honestly bought that s~~~.

    Well at least now, it’s in the hands of the court and lawyers now. No more contact with the police until they turn up at the court.

    Good god I need character references more than ever now, but alas, anxiety has always been my downfall. I should have made an effort to integrate more… but what newly married husband in love would ever suspect such treachery? ALL FOR MONEY AND PERMANENT STAY IN THE UK.

    The British justice system is not for British citizens, it’s there for foreigners.

    Rant over.

    #405417
    +1
    Agent Smith
    Agent Smith
    Participant
    71

    ‘Not Guilty’ and finally free of this… in some ways, I suppose. Things will never be the same again though.

    Just thought I’d give you an update on the final verdict. If anyone else is facing similar issues out there, don’t give in – the truth is constant, and the burden of proof lies not upon the defense, but the prosecution.

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