About to Dump Some Garbage (Friends)

[MichaelSpectator 544]

Stargazer wrote:

I just saw something today that made me ill.

Here’s a list of things I’m ready to cut out of my life:

1) Anyone who does yoga or believes in crystal or magnetic healing, chakras, meditation, chanting or any other pseudo-spiritual practice
2) Anyone who is or claims to be a DJ, promoter or erotic performer or who claims to know a club host or manager, stripper, bouncer or venue owner
3) Anyone who goes to night clubs, dances to hip-hop, buys table service, uses pick-up strategies including coersion or drugs to get or trade for sex
4) Anyone who goes to music festivals or drug parties in fur or blinky lights or with electrical tape over their nipples or in fetish or exhibitionist outfits
5) Anyone who uses drugs or alcohol on a daily basis or who gives, trades or sels drugs to entice, convince or coerce someone into having sex
6) Anyone who would request or accept a non-sexual “intimate relationship” or who claims to be in a polyamorous or “open relationship”
7) Anyone who would appear on or watch a tabloid or reality TV program
8) Anyone who lives with their parents or in a roommate or non-married couple situation where they are not paying an equal portion of the costs
9) Anyone who allows another person to manage their time, space, money, energy, ideas and expression for them
10) Anyone who says they are committed to doing something and then never manages to expend the time, energy or money to do it

I think I may have one or two friends left after this… who’s down for a MGTOW meetup? Damn, I need new, smarter and better people to hang out with.

I know what it’s like to yearn for associations with better smarter successful people and constantly come up short.

But if you come off with these predetermined lists and rules you’ll just end up friendless and alone. You can’t control what other people do. But you can control what you do.

I agree with most of the things listed but your never going to find this kind of perfect match with one buddy let alone a group.

1) Yoga is proven to increase health flexibility etc. Allot of financially successful guys use Yoga. I used it to get over a back injury and it worked amazing without any pills or surgeries.

2) I don’t like these people either but some are gatekeepers to other things. Just maliciously use them for your own selfish ends as an alternative to cutting them out.

3) Weird. No comment.

4) Agree

5) I use alcohol and to a lesser extent now: recreational drugs. I’ve earned it. And I’m tried of playing by the rules. I worked my ass off my whole life to become financially independent and successful. I blue pilled it for 15 years. I tried so hard, yet still don’t have the Princess Bride type wife I wanted since a child. Brutal Feminism, a world in decline, and evil laws, have relieved me of those responsibilities. I’m not marrying a used up 30+ year old skank my own age who passed her expiration date. I’ll take that option when I’m 45-50. Otherwise I’ve turned into an aging Peter Pan. My house is full of expensive art and furnishings and all the latest toys. And like Shylock once said “tis mine”. So F~~~ them. What did I do last night? Drank a Kalik, took bong hits, and played Call of Duty and Thief on PS4 like a teenager. I run my own business. I don’t have to report to a “boss” at 8am sharp. I make the rules. I also have a 600 bottle wine rack. 60 bottle liquer bar. 100 bottles of craft and imported beer. One rule: no beer in a can or wine less than 25$ bottle is allowed in my pad. I made $32,000.00 last month. Am I a loser?

I constantly go on trips to Las Vegas and other pleasure excursions. I surf, gym, do MMA, kite boarding. I want stay a Peter Pan as I get older. No way am I licking some 35 year old’s elastic coochie because she’s ready to “settle down” after being banged out by a line of 50-100 dudes over two decades.

And now shes willing to “settle” for a “nice man” with cash and prizes. F~~~ that. Dumb bitch she had her chance when she was 21,22,23 etc. Instead she chose to party her youth away. Let some other Cuck clean up the Alphas sloppy leftover garbage. He can pay in tears as she drags him through the divorce meat grinder.

The problem is when you get into drugs/drinking really young you don’t have the fortitude that MGTOW establishes and your surrounded by 100% losers. Irresponsible drinking and drugs can ruin your life and drag you down. You have to have the b~~~~ to MGTOW early and survive on your terms in this Godforsaken world. I’ve earned my pleasures. It’s hard to find others who can maintain so I look up to guys like Joe Rogan etc.

Not gonna bother answering the rest. You seem like your younger and I can definitely identify with your overall desire to associate with winners. When I was in my twenties I used to hate how hard I tried and failed to find friends that were actually going places in life.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

I just read you live in Las Vegas.

A huge segment of people go to Las Vegas for business. Las Vegas is now literally the business convention capital of the world.

Your lucky enough to live there? Are you kidding me? You have access to all those expos. You can meet tons of people. That’s how I started my business early on. I had to fly there.

Just take an Uber and go out to the business conventions. You can wear an expensive shirt and tie and just hang out at the higher class places. Get a few drinks. Hang out. Play a few hands of 21.

The other awesome thing (for me) about Vegas: people have to afford to fly and stay in Vegas. It’s expensive. That eliminates 90% of the trash, losers and “talkers” you find in dive bars and clubs. People are dressed up. It’s awesome.

Bar Aureole at Mandalay Bay is a great high class lounge hosting one of the worlds best wine selections I’ve ever seen. West Wing at MGM is amazing. Centerfuge MGM is another great place. Red Square is an amazing resturant. It was stacked with hot girls when I went. Rouge Bar is also cool. Vegas also has the best dining in the world.

I’ve been to LV 18+ times. I personally always avoid weekends. Just go on weekdays. The best part of LV is if your alone nobody will judge you!!!! Especially women!!!! Women like to label guys who are alone as “creeps” or “loners” etc. Vegas removes that option. Guess what bitch? I’M HERE ON BUSINESS. Las Vegas is full of young professionals on business and alone. You can even eat alone in high class fine dining places and nobody will judge you because it’s a common sight.

The garbage and sleeze that flock to those public pool parties and certain clubs? Just avoid them. Your above them. They are third class citizens. They came to Vegas for the sleeze. You’re there on business. Your stock is taking off. Your flying high. Nothing else.

I met allot of contacts at the business expos in Las Vegas. Las Vegas is awesome. I love that place. It’s the perfect place to MGTOW. I can’t imagine a better place to go it alone.

Dude. Get out of the house. 🙂

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Thank you for your comments, Michael.

For the record, I’m 47 and have been operating my own successful business for 16 years. Now that I live in Las Vegas, I see it from a local’s perspective which is very different from the fly in, make connections, have fun and go home mentality I had as a typical tourist.

It’s interesting how many people leap to correct me on the yoga comment. I’m not talking about the traditional exercise of yoga, I’m talking about the Big Business of Yoga as discussed in this Washington Post article with the athleisure merchandising, copyright battles and cultural appropriation… the bulls~~~ yoga that 30 million Americans think is so deeply spiritual.

As for my comment on the club scene, on re-reading I see it was poorly written. My intention was to identify the type of vapid, thirsty guys who put on the whole “baller” performance solely for the purpose of pulling down pussy and the stupid, greedy women who fall for it.

And to follow up, I got rid of all those people and am much happier having my small group of core friends and extended sphere of acquaintances whose personal lives I don’t need to know or care about.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

I used to have some great friends. Guys who followed the “bro code” and we always had each other’s backs, teased each other in public, argued, but made up each time, and going on hunting and camping trips.

Then one by one, they all got married and despite promises to the contrary, we would never see each other again. A few times, I’ve seen them in public with their wives. They look beaten down and dead inside, like they have the thousand-yard stare of a ragged war veteran.

I don’t have too many friends left. Mainly because of my criteria of friends, and also because I prefer doing s~~~ by myself as a “lone wolf”.
I prefer friends to be people who are honest and awesome and trustworthy, and who doesn’t want to bring their wife/GF along on a guy’s day out, or who keeps answering the phone calls from Cupcake to appease her wishes while hanging out.
In the state of Utah, guys who meet this criteria are nearly nonexistent, since it’s a pro-marriage state(I’m sure you all know why)and guys are raised since childhood to feel incomplete without a woman. From birth to adulthood, it’s Mommy Dearest holding their hand. The moment they’re adults, they’re encouraged to find a wife to fill in that role.
And anyone who is okay with that kind of life isn’t okay with me. I have yet to meet a guy who is MGTOW, even though I’ve been in that way of life for eleven years.

[RennieParticipant]

Haven’t heard from the guy in almost 2 months. I guess it’s safe to say he’s gone.

*turns and walks away silently, unrepentant*

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Stargazer wrote:

Thanks, man. Keep in mind that I live in Las Vegas

Damn, I didn’t know people actually live in that place. I’m European, so I thought it was just casino after casino and hotel after hotel, and that’s that.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Nerevar wrote:

Damn, I didn’t know people actually live in that place. I’m European, so I thought it was just casino after casino and hotel after hotel, and that’s that.

Yeah, quite a few people live here. There’s plenty of non casino things to do here.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

Instead of looking for a criteria for friends, why don’t we save more men from the scam that is modern modern marriage? It took a few of my brothers to convince me. You do not need to be friends with them but let them hear the words. Let them know they are slaves. Let them know the system thinks they nothing more than 18 years of guaranteed income, a second retirement, and/or a sperm donor. If we all reject all of this, then the system will be forced to change or collapse. We can’t do this with a select few. Individual countries can’t do this. We all have to be in it together. For MANkind.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[RennieParticipant]

Masculine_Man wrote:

Instead of looking for a criteria for friends, why don’t we save more men from the scam that is modern modern marriage? It took a few of my brothers to convince me. You do not need to be friends with them but let them hear the words. Let them know they are slaves. Let them know the system thinks they nothing more than 18 years of guaranteed income, a second retirement, and/or a sperm donor. If we all reject all of this, then the system will be forced to change or collapse. We can’t do this with a select few. Individual countries can’t do this. We all have to be in it together. For MANkind.

Isn’t effective when they take one look at the site and declare “this is a site that hates women!”.

[KnxGuy MGYParticipant 19]

i’m not a very successful person, well i’m not a business owner, or very smart for that matter. But i’m a hard worker, and the longest i’ve been unemployed was 3 months (not including under 15 years old when legally I couldn’t work being a child and all) when I moved across country with three “mates” (who are no longer in contact due to them being lazy and moving back to their parents but somehow i’m the loser… for being MGTOW that can hold every job i’ve ever done…)

but i hate, actually hate, my so called old “friends” every single one of them shame other males that like different things as them, such as anime, and the non-worship of females for example.

my criteria is strict, never used to be, no one is born with strict criteria in my opinion, but created via experiences. Just like Genuine soggyknists, mysogynists aren’t born ladies they’re created… I wonder by whom.

anyway friends to me now, at 25 years old, are a non priority. 25 years of shaming, being used, ignored, stepped on, taken advantage of has lead me to move to the other side of the country, cut all contact except with my parents and my middle bro who is also MGTOW like me (i’ve failed as big bro to save my littlest bro who at 13 has had false rape, false sexual accusations and has a new GF every 2 months, but I saved one bro and he is coming to my city this year and we are bestest buds as well as bros). I have none, and don’t care if I ever make another friend. I avoid social interaction now, being alone is happiness to me. No more being ordered to pay more for the 50/50 bills agreed on when i moved in with a mate because bulls~~~ reasons, no more shaming for my anime watching, no more pressure to “fit in” with them.

I had one “friend” say you’re boring you don’t go out, come out it’ll be fun then proceed to leave me alone soon as a vagina arrive, leaving me with no way home in a city ive never been to before… hope he is dead the f~~~er. my dad said the same thing once “going out isn’t that expensive” he says i am a male, ANYTHING i do costs me money i replied, going out costs me money, unlike vaginas who can go out every weekend and not spend a cent…)

thing is, I get along with people just fine, i work retail always have, change stores probably every year, i am liked by all staff, never have fights and are friendly and kind to all, but where has that got me? used, mistreated and all round walked on. well since 2012 when I found MGTOW and saved my bro, it hasn’t happened since.

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

Unfortunately for me true and good friends are very rare to find where I live…. I live in a transient town (Retirement and party town) where the average person my age is only here to get drunk and get f~~~ed. Most men here are meat heads, have a man bun, or homeless…. So as you could guess my rules are very strict.

1. If you are a granola sniffing, man bun toting, or a juice monkey no thanks.
2. A white night
3. Can’t change a tire
4. Spend more time on your phone than a woman
5. Drug addict or smoker
6. No useful skills
7. Have more than 1 cat or own ferrets
8. Fat slob
9. Moocher
10. Mangina

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

@KnxGuy MGY I have had the exact same experience as you when I was younger, the best piece of advice I can give you is always stand up for yourself no matter what even if you get fired from a job. When I started to tell people to f~~~ themselves I felt a thousand times better. I saved my money and learned how to manage it which in turn made me more money which allowed me freedom. If you want tips let me know.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Jim01 wrote:

mgtow_85 wrote:

I don’t have too many friends left. Mainly because of my criteria of friends, and also because I prefer doing s~~~ by myself as a “lone wolf”.
I prefer friends to be people who are honest and awesome and trustworthy, and who doesn’t want to bring their wife/GF along on a guy’s day out, or who keeps answering the phone calls from Cupcake to appease her wishes while hanging out.
In the state of Utah, guys who meet this criteria are nearly nonexistent, since it’s a pro-marriage state(I’m sure you all know why)and guys are raised since childhood to feel incomplete without a woman. From birth to adulthood, it’s Mommy Dearest holding their hand. The moment they’re adults, they’re encouraged to find a wife to fill in that role.
And anyone who is okay with that kind of life isn’t okay with me. I have yet to meet a guy who is MGTOW, even though I’ve been in that way of life for eleven years.

pretty much this

I have just ditched a “friend” who I have known for 10+ years(I have even put posts up on here about him before if I could find them) and I have tried and tried to keep the friendship going but his new fiancé has slowly removed me from his life and the bloke has basically turned into an arrogant, lying prick. I have tried to ignore my gut telling me to ditch him, but I finally have after an altercation we had last week that was his fault.

on the one hand it is a shame, but on the other I feel like a weight has been lifted off of my shoulders as I was starting to hate the bloke and I don’t want those negative feelings weighing me down

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22576]

TheDigestedRedPill wrote:

All I want is Honesty and the chance to show that I am Honest back
All I want is to be Trusted and given the chance to Trust.
All I want is Respect and to be able to give Respect back.
All I want is Commitment and the chance show my Commitment to you
All I want is Boundaries and the chance for you to abide by mine as well..
All I want is to be Forgiven and the chance to Forgive you as well
All I want, is to learn how to be your Friend.
All I want, is to show you that I am human and I can make mistakes as well.

I would not have said that better myself. TDRP, you have the heart of a poet. And I feel the same way.

[Anonymous 1]

Good friends take a long time to make a history with; they can happen readily and you know it when it jives. In my experience one can only have several great friends in this life.

[Anonymous 1]

Great post; thanks for your input.

[Greg SilveradoParticipant 172]

I think some of the things you suggested are terrific really great life changing things. For me after my divorce I hung out with a woman who had been a stripper before as well as a call girl in New York City in the eighties. I don’t know anybody on reality shows and I don’t want to I’m totally in agreement with you as well as dating anybody in the sex industry. To be honest I only look for male companionship these days because those are the people I have something in common with. I cannot stand listening to the drivel pouring out of women’s mouths there’s just something about it that completely Nails on chalkboard gets me. Too bad you’re not in Arizona.

Always expect the unexpected and gird your loins appropriately. It's a no-fault jungle out there.

[Agent SmithParticipant 71]

Thanks to my marriage, friendship is a luxury I don’t have. I wasn’t allowed friends.

[Paul23Blocked 280]

You should cut all of your friends out of your life because friends will lead you to meet women and not a single MGHOW would want that. I’ve cut all contact with my friends, including my college ones because I don’t want to deal with whores/lesbians ever again.

[RogerParticipant 3]

I do watch Jerry about once a year to see just how screwed up everything is getting.cant wait till God returns so many dumbasses but not my red pill friends

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