About to Dump Some Garbage (Friends)

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Once I’ve had a disagreement with someone and we p~~~ each other off, then they might become my friend. I demand that anyone who might be my friend respect my opinions even if they disagree. Once in elementary school, I had a fight with a guy on the playground and we were complimenting each other on how well the other fought as we washed are wounds in the bathroom. Obviously I don’t require a physical fight, but I do need a sign that we can disagree on something and not feel angry at the other person for it.

[RennieParticipant]

I think I managed to knock off the facebook junkie. I told him straight up, no more facebook, it’s gone and that he was a beggar(constantly begging for me to use it). He got all p~~~y and I haven’t heard from him since. Good riddance. Basically that was the last of the trash people in my life.

[DrAK74Participant 77]

I found that I have many more acquaintances than true friends. After my separation, I lost most of my male friends because they were all tied to my wife……No big loss. I did lose a good friends because he succumbed to PTSD…he got really paranoid about people being out to get him…including me. He cut me off when I spoke to his father about my concerns regarding his mental state.. I hope he’s ok out there in the world. For me, I don’t really miss having friends, and I am confident I will find others, but for right now I am content.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

A quick update:

So far I’ve trimmed my social media contact by about half and have ended one very toxic relationship completely. Several others are cut down to minimal effort and will probably just wither and die on their own,

It’s been a lot easier and more calming than I expected and already I find I have time to do a lot more thinking and writing and have begun to develop a new idea that has been a long time coming.

I expect to purge another half again before I’m done. Who needs a bunch of fake-ass friends and losers hanging around taking up time and resources anyway? Good riddance to worthless people.

[LightBringerParticipant 440]

Stargazer wrote:

Not bad, but these two need mentioning, meditation is proven by a LOT of studies to be legit, so you need to calm down with the hate there.
Also, 8 sounds a LOT like femenists hating ‘peter pan’ men, ‘WHY DONT YOU JUST GROW UP!?’ economics suck out there, I dont blame guys living at home, its more MGTOW then slaving for an apartment.

[RoyDalParticipant]

@keymaster; yes and yes again. I have had a “friend” or two like that. With friends like those, we are actually better off with our enemies: At least we know where we stand with them.

About meditation, the US Marines find meditation useful in their combat readiness. If it works for some of the world’s toughest soldiers, then it should work for us civilians.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Stargazer wrote:

So I ask of my MGTOW brothers… what are your criteria for friendship?

@doc Fenderson, my friends don’t screw-over “other” people, they don’t argue with “other” people. they don’t care about “other” peoples “bulls~~~”. They’re allot like me; mellow, calm, and ZERO f~~~ing tolerance for any contradictions or hypocrisy that most people display LIKE IT’S FRIGGING NORMAL!

Most people are infected with so much mental illness you can see the proverbial straight jackets that envelop their thinking! They’re constantly living in turmoil and endless bulls~~~! The stench and dust of psychosis surrounds them like the dirt surrounds the peanuts character pig pen!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

1) Anyone who does yoga or believes in crystal or magnetic healing, chakras, meditation, chanting or any other pseudo-spiritual practice

8) Anyone who lives with their parents or in a roommate or non-married couple situation where they are not paying an equal portion of the costs

LightBringer wrote:

Not bad, but these two need mentioning, meditation is proven by a LOT of studies to be legit, so you need to calm down with the hate there. Also, 8 sounds a LOT like femenists hating ‘peter pan’ men, ‘WHY DONT YOU JUST GROW UP!?’ economics suck out there, I dont blame guys living at home, its more MGTOW then slaving for an apartment.

I don’t recall hating anyone, just talking about things I don’t want in my life.

With regard to pseudo-spiritualism, I define “meditation” as the idea that one’s mind state can have a material effect on probability or the structure of the universe, I personally find folding clothes and washing dishes “meditative” in that I’m engaged in a physical task and letting go of my conscious mind. But focused, guided meditation to project reality toward a specific, desired outcome… I find that a total crock. Just my opinion.

And as for individuals pulling their own weight financially, I don’t believe a person can truly go their own way unless they’re self-sufficient economically at a basic level. If an adult is living at their parents’ house and not paying their fair share for room and board, it’s not because the economy stinks. I know a 30 year old woman with a criminal background who works at Wendy’s and does home stays for the elderly in order to pay her bills. She has a modest apartment and a beater automobile, but she has self respect. Unless a person has a serious disability or disease and is obviously incapable of taking care of themselves, if they’re an adult and living at home, they’re just mooching.

And that’s not hating, that’s just an opinion and a choice I get to make about the kind of people I want in my life. If you’re chanting your Ooommms in your mom’s basement as you read this, have fun but I wouldn’t have any respect for you or care to have you as a friend. You don’t have to take it as a judgement on your quality as a human being unless you want to.

As I often say, one would have to be a real idiot to stand up and say “Here!” when someone walks into a crowded room and says “Hey, idiot!”

[RennieParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

A quick update:

So far I’ve trimmed my social media contact by about half and have ended one very toxic relationship completely. Several others are cut down to minimal effort and will probably just wither and die on their own,

It’s been a lot easier and more calming than I expected and already I find I have time to do a lot more thinking and writing and have begun to develop a new idea that has been a long time coming.

I expect to purge another half again before I’m done. Who needs a bunch of fake-ass friends and losers hanging around taking up time and resources anyway? Good riddance to worthless people.

I booted one myself. He had become toxic and a liability with his reckless, depraved and sometimes illegal behavior. After I bailed on facebook and forced him to use email, he stopped responding and I thought I’d gotten rid of him, but then he sent another message. Since he convinced himself that I’m some kind of loony, I just played into that a little and I haven’t heard from him since. Hopefully for good.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

FWIW, since my original post, I have ceased using Facebook or any other type of social media completely.

[ShadeParticipant 53]

Meditation ain’t that bad I tried it. Not with all the chanting and s~~~. But all I did was go outside, sat under a tree, closed my eyes and heightened my senses and cleared my head.

For male friends I rarely have. Most time I deal with males is when I play basketball–that is where many, 90% of males know me. Unless, we were cool through HS. I only have one best friend I known him 20+ years.

All I ask is that you respect me and I’ll respect you. I know guys who are White Knights but they still respect me and I just don’t associate myself with them much.
I don’t do the club/bar thing.
If he is selling drugs or in a gang, I really don’t f~~~ with him. How you make your living, is how you do it. But where I come from, enemies don’t give a damn if you aren’t in a gang or not, they see me with him, they are aiming to take me out as well.

Guys who beg for a lot of s~~~ I don’t deal with either.

I rarely keep girls as friends. Because what I learned is they will love to use your ear for everything. Then bounce once their s~~~ is together i.e. getting a boyfriend.
And if I am attracted to her, she is not my friend because I refuse to be an orbit. The only chicks I am virtually cool with are the ones who actually love themselves and don’t seek attention; they are more down to earth.

Gohan: "But you can't just leave me out here all alone, that's cruel!" Piccolo: "Hey kid, LIFE is cruel! And don't you forget it!"

[TheDigestedRedPillParticipant 165]

All I want is Honesty and the chance to show that I am Honest back
All I want is to be Trusted and given the chance to Trust.
All I want is Respect and to be able to give Respect back.
All I want is Commitment and the chance show my Commitment to you
All I want is Boundaries and the chance for you to abide by mine as well..
All I want is to be Forgiven and the chance to Forgive you as well
All I want, is to learn how to be your Friend.
All I want, is to show you that I am human and I can make mistakes as well.

Society live's as if we have reached the pinnacle of human potential. Technological Advancement and Innovation, intellectualism, critical thinking is substituted for useless innovations, nasty narcissistic games, tyrannical laws that destroy the very foundation of family, and the world as we know it.

[economistParticipant 225]

Honestly, for me MGTOW is an entirely solo path. I keep my beliefs to myself and go about my life and my work. When a close friend asks me why I never go after girls, I explain MGTOW to them. The reaction is universally negative, but they respect me in the same way I respect their decision to live the blue pilled life. I’ve found MGTOW to get almost as strong of a reaction from someone as if you were trying to cram you religion down their throat. Even when they ask first. I get about as far as “MGTOW is the idea that women are biologically predisposed to hypergamy, and therefore are incapable of lov-” and then they cut me off and say they don’t want to hear any more.

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

Sorry to go off-topic but…isn’t Jerry Springer fake? We’ve got it in Aus and I watched a few episodes back in the day. Maybe I’d like to believe it’s fake because the alternative of it being real is just, like…where’s a brick wall I can smash my head into?

I don’t suppose it matters much. If the story was true and the guy was willing to humiliate himself in public then sure, turf away. If it was fake and the guy agreed to be on a reality TV show for whatever reason that’d also be cutting it fine. I f~~~ing hate reality TV and the way they have to make ‘characters’ that the dumb-ass public can relate to. That’s not an honest, real depiction; it’s marketing, pure and simple. Anyone who participates knowing this is either stupid or an attention-craving whore and both of those make their way onto my s~~~-list.

Society: I refuse your stick and carrot. If you try to beat or shame me you'd better take me down first time. If I want smoke blown up my ass I'll buy a cigar and a length of hose.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Sure it’s fake. The guy and his girl and the other girl submitted their story so they could get on tv and try to make themselves into celebrities by acting like idiots. Hey, it worked for Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. That’s exactly the type of people I don’t want in my life.

[ThrasherParticipant 37]

Honestly… The only friend that I have is my father…

Although I tollerate jokes (except when they get intentionally disrespectful) and avoid to say my true opinions out loud when it comes to:

Drugs – I’m against it. Including the already legalized ones.

Religion – I’m an atheist. And no, I’m not a left-wing extremist.

Abortion – I’m against it simply because a fetus don’t deserve to be shredded due to your irresponsibility or dementia at not using or refusing to use a contraceptive method.

Politics – I’m a right-wing supporter, although more liberal than conservative. At least when it comes to market issues.

In our modern society, specially where I live, being a right-wing supporter automatically brings you an facist/racist/homophobic status and the only one who listens to me when I talk about these things is my father.

Now when it comes to personality issues my criteria is just to meet someone who isn’t a social alpinist. Someone who won’t fake their opinions in order to satisfy a determined group of people.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Nice topic.

I’ve already handled this part of my life. I cut off enough “Friends” to make a 51st state. The few that are still here are indeed worthy of the title of friend and I make sure that I live up to it in return. Real friends are as hard to find as a Mrs. Right if you ask me. My only advice to add to this is,”Listen to your voice.” If you’re questioning yourself as to why you’re hanging with someone or why you let that person hang around you, chances are you already know what’s up. Don’t be afraid to shut down or shut up someone who’s messing up things for you. You don’t have to like it, but you’re gonna be unhappy until you take care of your problem, one way or the other.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[RennieParticipant]

economist wrote:

Honestly, for me MGTOW is an entirely solo path. I keep my beliefs to myself and go about my life and my work. When a close friend asks me why I never go after girls, I explain MGTOW to them. The reaction is universally negative, but they respect me in the same way I respect their decision to live the blue pilled life. I’ve found MGTOW to get almost as strong of a reaction from someone as if you were trying to cram you religion down their throat. Even when they ask first. I get about as far as “MGTOW is the idea that women are biologically predisposed to hypergamy, and therefore are incapable of lov-” and then they cut me off and say they don’t want to hear any more.

I got told this was a “site that hates women”, by one guy – who made no effort to understand any of it. He turned into an idiot and he’s gone now.

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

I have a very few close friends, all of whom I have known since the early 70’s. I almost never see any of them in person due to distance. One of them I speak to often over VOIP because we collaborate on projects. The others almost never.
I have a Facebook account, but I “follow” only a few family members. I don’t have any “friends” online that I don’t know in the real world. That’s just weird.
I have many casual acquaintances where I live, but none that I would hang around with. It is not rare for me to go for many days without speaking to anyone in person. This is a big change from younger days, when I pretty much always had someone to hang with, but I have grown used to it.
I could invite people over, or make an effort to get closer, but I’d rather they just left me alone for the most part. Most people just bore the hell out of me, especially married couples.
I no longer speak to any of my old female friends or former lovers, though I could if I wanted. They only ever contacted me when they saw the wall was closing in and found themselves alone, or divorced, or poor. Now they all have either kids or cats or both. To hell with all their insincere asses.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[SoulArbiterParticipant 8]

economist wrote:

Honestly, for me MGTOW is an entirely solo path. I keep my beliefs to myself and go about my life and my work. When a close friend asks me why I never go after girls, I explain MGTOW to them. The reaction is universally negative, but they respect me in the same way I respect their decision to live the blue pilled life. I’ve found MGTOW to get almost as strong of a reaction from someone as if you were trying to cram you religion down their throat. Even when they ask first. I get about as far as “MGTOW is the idea that women are biologically predisposed to hypergamy, and therefore are incapable of lov-” and then they cut me off and say they don’t want to hear any more.

Yeah mate. Gone through all of that with family and friends. It’s not worth the hassle. I can understand why they’d be confused and then somewhat hostile when I get on to the topic of why I’m a MGTOW. On some level I believe that I’ve made them, if only for a brief moment, question their blue pilled life. I also respect their decision and their way of living, I don’t agree with it, but that for me is enough.

Like you said, the best thing is to keep the belief to yourself and about your life and work. It is rewarding to know you’ve questioned others, questioned yourself and arrived at a truth for yourself that you are comfortable with as you’ve gone through a process of removing the ego and the insecurities that otherwise hold others up in their own path to greater personal development.

"Unus quisque magnas virtutes quae ad tentationem ei non extrahunt, quae habeat negligentes cultum" - One great mistake is to try to extract from each person virtues which he does not possess, neglecting the cultivation of those which he does have. - Hadrian

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