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  • Christopher
    Christopher
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    Great article thanks for posting. A lot of truth there. I left facebook about 7 years ago. I had hundreds of followers but few were seeing my posts. Facebook has algorithms that filters out real news and opinion and ideology that does not fit with the globalist social engineering narrative. Facebook is a trick. If you are an independent thinker / not a conformist you are shouting in echo chamber like the author described.

    Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

    Romulus
    Romulus
    Participant

    On a side note there are a few like Kurt Russel, James Woods, Clint Eastwood that have been calling them out for years.

    That’s a good point Gru. There are some. James Wood has gotten hammered over his views. There needs to be more of a male echo chamber out in LaLa land.

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

    Crankganker
    Crankganker
    Participant

    Hehehe. This dude is a riot. No disrespect to any religious people but this guy is a perfect example of people pretending to be religious so they can stand on a morale high ground.

    Anyone remember when I made him look like a little bitch, when he tried to tell me that the bible didn’t say anything about non believers going to hell?

    And then I quoted 5 different passages that proved that I was right, AND that he has obviously never even attempted to read the bible?

    He didn’t even respond that time cuz he knew I made him look like a moron, which he is.

    This is the type of guy that thinks he is the most intelligent person alive, and is probably so used to hearing an echo chamber of his beliefs and views that he lacks the basic brain functionality to comprehend the fact that all the people that reinforce his bulls~~~ views are just as brainwashed and ignorant as he.

    I love making fools of self proclaimed “intellectuals”. Especially considering I’m a high school drop out idiot.

    Again no offense to my religious brothers on here, I respect your views as long as you respect mine, but this is the type of guy that makes all Christians look bad.

    He is the one that is part of a cult.

    You want to make me angry? I will take a bite out of that anger and shit out success.


    Anonymous

    Maybe I shouldn’t have posted this, maybe I should have. I am certainly open to correction. My thought is that we can learn from posts like the one written above. Why? Because they can potentially teach us about ourselves. That post however does nothing of the sort. It’s simply more name calling and smear tactics meant to dismiss what goes on here. Personally I don’t mind being called names in this context. Why? It means that the author has no substance. My own opinion though.

    Travis, I’m afraid you’re going to have to leave. You see, according to the almighty source of this article, We are an echo chamber. So when you post something like this you are not allowed to say that it’s just your opinion. That sounds like we can have different opinions, which are clearly not allow.

    If that were true, then this entire article would be complete and utter bulls~~~.

    Now go think about what you did wrong. Let us know when you are ready to conform and the tribunal will decide if you are worthy………..

    It has been said, it will be done.

    Yeah, it also says that I’m a feminist too. So I will now listen to Melissa Ethridge and all of the Lilith Fair concerts on CD and punish myself with boxed wine and pictures of cats until I have a change of heart!

    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    Maybe I shouldn’t have posted this, maybe I should have. I am certainly open to correction. My thought is that we can learn from posts like the one written above. Why? Because they can potentially teach us about ourselves. That post however does nothing of the sort. It’s simply more name calling and smear tactics meant to dismiss what goes on here. Personally I don’t mind being called names in this context. Why? It means that the author has no substance. My own opinion though.

    Travis, I’m afraid you’re going to have to leave. You see, according to the almighty source of this article, We are an echo chamber. So when you post something like this you are not allowed to say that it’s just your opinion. That sounds like we can have different opinions, which are clearly not allow.

    If that were true, then this entire article would be complete and utter bulls~~~.

    Now go think about what you did wrong. Let us know when you are ready to conform and the tribunal will decide if you are worthy………..

    It has been said, it will be done.

    Order the good wine

    #716898
    Eric Lauder
    Eric Lauder
    Participant

    MGTOW exists precisely because society has failed to listen and understand the valid grievances and unjust circumstances and grievous suffering of males.

    Frankly, if society doesn’t care about my unjust suffering of divorce rape and parental alienation, I don’t care about its so-called “rape culture”, “gender wage gap”, or any other issue, particularly which I personally did not cause. If they are not my ally, I’m not theirs. They can fight their own battles and wars and issues. I will just walk away. I’ll go my own way. The feminists and tradcucks can continue to delude themselves in their echo chambers until reality catches up and smacks them out of their ideological delusions.

    This.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    Handsome Vic
    Handsome Vic
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    University is not an institution for investigation and debate of ideas and pursuit of knowledge in an intellectual way.

    University IS an echo chamber and tactical training camp to shut down anything that might not align with mainstream political correctness.

    Both students and faculty are responsible.

    University has become a farce.

    I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

    #715810
    Branched off
    Branched off
    Participant

    Confirmation Bias is a really important concept in today’s politics. Thanks for raising this. Now that so many of us have gone into echo chambers (like this website for one) we are more vulnerable to it that ever. It would be good to talk openly about the danger of this and what we can do to avid it.

    On one hand it does trouble me that talking on this site is not going to help me to be challenging my world view. I believe that I am more right than wrong in my world view but the world is constantly changing and we need to be constantly challenging and fine tuning our models of the world. It is our responsibility as men not to be sheep. I would recommend all men on here to read up on confirmation bias and be aware of it. The other sister risk is judging by representativeness -this is a particular danger to us when we say AWALT -yeah maybe all women can be like that but is this one going to be today if say I try to soothe her crying child? Its a risk but how big is the risk for the interaction I am planning? One needs to judge well in order to have good day to day interactions with the world. Well over half of the world is either a litard or a woman, nearly half is both. One wants to function successfully in the world.

    On the other hand none of us (except maybe the incels) got here by being slaves to confirmation bias. We had a world view that we were raised with. It was a painful business but we were forced to challenge it and through challenging it we arrived here. I am quite confident that the Blue Pill world suffers from more confirmation bias than we do -because they have never challenged their model of the world. I do however see that we are an echo chamber and we do need to be aware of it.

    At least one strength we have is that we are a fairly diverse group who have some different view points and different life stories. I think it is always important to try to understand what someone else’s narrative is (even when they are clearly wrong). I think this is the key to risk management in interactions with women and libtards -what is motivating this individual? how do they see the world? what are their confirmation biases? to what extent do they offer more opportunity than threat to me or vice versa? One has to listen to their narrative to see this.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #715727

    Anonymous

    Everyone has “confirmation bias”, “cognitive dissonance”, and “cognitive distortions”. We all have it more or less than others. It is an inherent aspect of human nature, and it can be amplified in “echo chamber” forums like this.

    We can all be ideologues of some sort. For example, I bought into religious bulls~~~ for decades because of confirmation bias.

    The way out of corruptible human thinking is to: 1. question everything (especially including latent subconscious presumptions); and 2. listen and genuinely understand point’s of view differing from your own. We tend to fail miserably at self-questioning, listening to and understanding others. MGTOW exists precisely because society has failed to listen and understand the valid grievances and unjust circumstances and grievous suffering of males.

    Frankly, if society doesn’t care about my unjust suffering of divorce rape and parental alienation, I don’t care about its so-called “rape culture”, “gender wage gap”, or any other issue, particularly which I personally did not cause. If they are not my ally, I’m not theirs. They can fight their own battles and wars and issues. I will just walk away. I’ll go my own way. The feminists and tradcucks can continue to delude themselves in their echo chambers until reality catches up and smacks them out of their ideological delusions.

    #704291
    Atton
    Atton
    Participant

    See we can’t even talk about our experiences and to help other to heal! Why? Because we’re wrong and an echo chamber.

    You might not find overwhelming support of ideas that do not fall into line with MGTOW on this site. Unlike the lion-share of feminist forums and a great number of other websites. Censorship is rarely applied and that is a rare feature indeed when consider other forums.
    If you comply to prohibition and if you are a man you can largely say whatever the f~~~ you want.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #704085
    Gargamel
    Gargamel
    Spectator

    Honestly, I’d say wake up.
    Wake the f~~~ up already.
    You ain’t getting no younger and you will need someone to look after you when you get old.
    It will happen suddenly.
    In your heart of hearts you know your ideology is based on lies. You know you have never really been oppressed by men however you have frequently exploited your sexuality to get what ever you wanted from them.
    You know that feminism is a giant echo chamber of lies. You don’t debate you shout down people who don’t agree then brand them as racist or misogynistic to silence them.
    Your ideology cannot bear any more than a superficial examination,before the nonsense and lies it is based on become self evident.
    The whole world has suffered due to your hateful ideology. So many lives ruined.
    This includes your own. The hatred you spew at the world under the guise of Fairness and Equality makes the Nazis look like the peace corps.
    And where does this hatred come from?
    It comes from your own self loathing, because you can never be free, from the guilt you carry, for murdering your own children, and calling it freedom

    Well written truth about feminism.

    They should be addressed like that but since when could cats be taught anything?

    And c~~~s are even below cats.

    Do not debate with them, it is futile. They only understand the water squirt gun.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim (.pdf file)


    Anonymous

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Men_Going_Their_Own_Way

    This entry is full of inaccuracies, but is hilarious. Essentially the entry builds a straw man.

    An example is as follows:

    MRA memes commonly pop up in MGTOW narratives including: good-guy-loser/successful-bad-boy-player,[6] men as oppressed gender, friendzone, incel, misandry, and “arrrg SJWs are destroying the y chromosome”! The best way for man-hermits to avoid and be done with the devious cunning shenanigans of the females, is to never stop bitching about them while reinforcing one another’s bias, preferably in a damp and dank basement man-cave.

    See we can’t even talk about our experiences and to help other to heal! Why? Because we’re wrong and an echo chamber.

    Here is the glossary:

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Manosphere_glossary#Red_pill

    They have an entry for Gina Tingles!

    ‘Gina tingles (“‘gina” being short for vagina) are what a female allegedly experiences in the presence of an alpha, overriding all rational thought.[46]

    #704058
    Greg Honda
    Greg Honda
    Participant

    Honestly, I’d say wake up.
    Wake the f~~~ up already.
    You ain’t getting no younger and you will need someone to look after you when you get old.
    It will happen suddenly.
    In your heart of hearts you know your ideology is based on lies. You know you have never really been oppressed by men however you have frequently exploited your sexuality to get what ever you wanted from them.
    You know that feminism is a giant echo chamber of lies. You don’t debate you shout down people who don’t agree then brand them as racist or misogynistic to silence them.
    Your ideology cannot bear any more than a superficial examination,before the nonsense and lies it is based on become self evident.
    The whole world has suffered due to your hateful ideology. So many lives ruined.
    This includes your own. The hatred you spew at the world under the guise of Fairness and Equality makes the Nazis look like the peace corps.
    And where does this hatred come from?
    It comes from your own self loathing, because you can never be free, from the guilt you carry, for murdering your own children, and calling it freedom

    It's Time to get Wise

    #702977
    BritGHOW
    BritGHOW
    Participant

    Does it really matter that the lords are unelected? Ask yourself this: What are the odds of my vote determining the outcome of the election? I’d hazard a guess that the odds are akin to winning the lottery. Yet when you play the lottery you know what the prize is if you win.

    However, politicians routinely break their promises. Therefore, even if you win the election lottery there is no guarantee you’re going to get anything to show for it. In fact, you may lose out considerably when your party of choice/candidate is elected.

    I believe that it does, and for the very reason you give, if your candidate breaks his campaign promises, you can get rid of him at the next election, case in point the Liberals got massacred in 2015 following the tuition fees debacle.

    Not exactly. Ninety-two of the 700 odd Lords are elected, but the pool of candidates is limited to the peerage. Also, while the rest are appointed, you better believe they got the position by political means.

    The term “election” doesn’t imply universal suffrage now does it involve a universal candidate pool.

    The strange system comment was directed at how the royal family is funded, the lords issue is just f~~~ed.

    Not only is the candidate pool limited but the electorate as well, namely to the sitting members of the house, which just adds to the undemocratic nature of the place as the only people who will be elected are those who conform to the echo chamber.

    #701488

    Anonymous

    I blame the internet, and leftist universities. Before, these cowards would rightfully be silent, afraid to go outside and cause a ruckus. Now, they have all connected to all the other f~~~ed up losers like them. They formed huge echo-chambers in our once great universities, and now they have no fear or inhibition, because they know they have the government and a braindead mob of useless idiots backing them up if they should ever get into an altercation with someone who has politically incorrect thoughts.

    Which yeah, i realize i am mainly talking about leftist morons, but all women have been indoctrinated with liberal and feminist agendas. Do i even need to point out which sex is the loudest? So yeah…there you go. That explains the loud, obnoxious and boorish behavior of half the western world’s population.

    To buttress your point, the leftist and feminist garbage has specifically told women that any who criticizes them is a misogynist pig. Seriously. Oh, and beyond that anyone who criticizes leftist/feminist ideas are one or more of the following: racist, sexist, white supremacist, ableist, oppressive, greedy, lying, stupid, or just plain mean and/ or nasty. So what do we get as a result? Loads of women, minorities, and whites too who have literally no shame NONE. Society can’t last in a situation like that.

    #701482
    Xanthine
    xanthine
    Participant

    I blame the internet, and leftist universities. Before, these cowards would rightfully be silent, afraid to go outside and cause a ruckus. Now, they have all connected to all the other f~~~ed up losers like them. They formed huge echo-chambers in our once great universities, and now they have no fear or inhibition, because they know they have the government and a braindead mob of useless idiots backing them up if they should ever get into an altercation with someone who has politically incorrect thoughts.

    Which yeah, i realize i am mainly talking about leftist morons, but all women have been indoctrinated with liberal and feminist agendas. Do i even need to point out which sex is the loudest? So yeah…there you go. That explains the loud, obnoxious and boorish behavior of half the western world’s population.

    #700073
    Doc
    Doc
    Participant

    Women merely think they are strong and independent.

    I see it as a collective delusion.
    They have no insight into their delusion.

    If by chance they do then a large dose of denial is present. They pay attention to and actively seek out information confirming their own bias.

    Usually this is the echo chamber media and their friends and female colleagues who are all equally lacking insight, deluded, living in denial or applying confirmation bias together.

    Keep on trucking ladies. You provide endless laughter.

    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

    #699676
    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    I am just waiting till the fake bots take over places like FaceF~~~, and YouGoob!

    When that happens, What is going to kill our sides, is them having full on conversations where they plan meetups, protests, and NO ONE SHOWS UP. MY GOD THE PWNAGE!!!

    I wonder what would happen if Keymasters new finds were then linked to log into an alternate version of MGTOW. It would be the ULTIMATE ECHO CHAMBER. (Next to google of course)

    It would be HILARIOUS. They would be able to FLAG every person by solving INCREDIBLY hard math problems that would take them hours! We could even play PROVE YOU ARE A SJW by having them name the right Preferred Pronoun. THE GAME WOULD BE EPIC!

    Users of he site would be rewarded to customizing their proflies with Butch Lesinians for every man they succsefully compelte the flaging procesess.

    Can you IMAGINE??

    Can you just think of the possabilities! Like Operation DOX the President that leads to a POBOX addressed to Santa Claus?

    Or Operation ClamBake/NOPMAT. Where women start sending their used up hopes and dreams to other feminist? OMG THE LAUGHTER!!!!

    But the idea pushing all sorts of adverts their way, that go to supporting the site with money “Donations of JUSTICE for WOMEN”… (It would not be a lie 🙂 Just the thought of the Playground Tomfoolery would just be EPIC!

    I am such a child. But oh well. At least I am in good company.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #699246
    Redrum
    redrum
    Participant

    i agree, any account identified as a woman’s account should be booted.

    the problem is tho that they’ll try again.

    maybe rather than booting them stick their account in an echo chamber. they’ll never know they’ve been sterilized.

    Ok if I wash that Red Pill down with some Red Rum?

    Jimbob15217
    jimbob15217
    Participant

    I read Minnie’s remarks. She didn’t do herself any favors. Damon’s statement– that acts of improper sexual conduct belong on a continuum–conveys an idea so basic and so bland that any objection to it should baffle sensible people. After all, every act of improper conduct lies on a continuum. Hpw does saying so incur scorn?

    If there is to be a “conversation” generated by #metoo, that conversation has to include those with various points of view; if it doesn’t it’s just an echo chamber. Reactions like Driver’s feed a ‘whiplash” reaction where men will simply–and sensibly– say ‘if I’m not welcome to speak I’m not going to listen either and you women can resolve this issue all by yourselves.’ Unfortunately for them, that is not possible. And…men will have to go their own way.

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