You've all heard of the mouse universe?

[flightspaceSpectator 207]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes you are, wanna bet?

Sure. You tell me what i meant. See how that goes for you.

Anonymous wrote:

Well, so she needs to take her head of her ass for our species to survive? So she better start moving. Not sure why I should get involved. If I need to put MY ASS in the line, expecting NOTHING in return, for our species to survive, then I am sorry to say that’s the end of the human race.

Yes. She does. Or at least some woman does. It doesn’t have to be all of them. But actually look at the mouse universe instead of running your mouth like some kind of fight picking contrarian. A globalized culture of mice caused full scale extinction, as a direct result of females becoming violently selective and male mice withdrawing. FULL SCALE extinction. Not just a few stragglers left behind to reproduce and restore the population. To address the whole phoenix metaphor someone posted, there will be nothing to rise from the ashes if the only men and women left still hate each other. And so far, our own globalized culture has acted 100% predictably in line with the mouse universe. I myself held back from becoming MGTOW, knowing though it was noble in its intentions, it would ultimately only drive men and women apart which was not my goal, only to set a better standard for the treatment of men overall, and have some fairness and equality, so we’re not just opportunities to be used or exploited. And i know for most MGTOW its not their intention to drive a wedge between people but to bring serious issues to the global dialogue, and i think its important that we think about this rationally with the best intentions and solutions to move forward united as a culture, rather than to tie feminists to their own sinking ship and look them dead in the eye as we both plummet to a watery grave.

Anonymous wrote:

I disagree. And speak for yourself while you are at it. I’ve been through too much s~~~ and that just strengthen my resolve in doing what is best for me WITHOUT screwing anybody else. And I have a feeling it is not just me. Look at Mgtow.com? Despite all the s~~~ we are thrown, we are NOT Jezebel yet. If that was true, then Keymaster could just let it rip and I am pretty sure the people coming here would be totally different. Man had all the formal power in the past, and he could have used it to oppress women, just like feminists like to boast. Instead, we tried to do EVERYTHING that was on our power to accommodate and bring women to our level, despite any drawbacks women had. If what you are saying were true, then the feminist “version” of history would be the reality (and ironically feminism would not have existed).

You’re f~~~ing kidding me right? We don’t have a perfect track record buddy, we weren’t f~~~ing monsters, but the point i’m trying to make is we weren’t cultured to do it. The point is that the stanford prison experiment cultures people to become abusive sociopathic sadists, and the global culture we have now cultures women to be narcissistic self absorbed black holes of attention with no remorse or regard for men. And the solution isn’t to just wash your hands of it and let it be because it doesn’t fix it, the solution is to put up roadblocks and potholes that make their chosen path a bit more difficult so that gynocentric sociopathy isn’t an easy path to tread. And the intention there isn’t to engulf us both in a pit of self destructive hellfire, its to incentivize them to choose a different path, because they’ve had way too many incentives to choose the path they’re on. A similar comparison i could make would be to congress. You think a senator has a decent incentive to fight for the american people, when he’s constantly being bribed with millions of dollars by the rockefellers, the koch brothers, chris dodd, f~~~ing monstanto? F~~~ no. Thats an inordinate amount of incentives to do the wrong thing. Versus the incentive to do the right thing, is basically just unpleasant conversings with commonfolk which happen rarely and are worth the tradeoff to them. Thats why organizations like demand progress are so effective, they generate media attention with staggering numbers and get people to harass the s~~~ out of their congressmen until those unpleasant interactions are no longer worth the tradeoff of compromising their morals. Thats why violent protests have historically been so effective, from the boston tea party to the arab spring to the boxer rebellion, nothing incentivizes the right thing like the threat of death from those you’ve p~~~ed on. Compare that to say, a feminazi on facebook, who posts a picture of her cleavage and gets 1000 likes and can just block anyone who disagrees with her. Where is the incentive to treat men like anything other than doormats? Even if she gets some crap in her real life, she can just retreat to her cave of denial, where she is god and queen. You don’t wash your hands of it and leave her there. You light fire to her domain and when she’s homeless and wants to come back to the real world you tell her there are rules.

Anonymous wrote:

Because we are all (supposedly) mgtow does not mean we have all to agree on everything. In fact, debate is the STRENGTH of Mgtow. it makes much, MUCH harder to attack several individuals then on big giant block that thinks the same. If you want conformity just because of a label, or a penis, I am glad to disappoint.

Indeed, i’m glad we’re not all some homogenous blob of conformity. I believe as george washington did, that political parties polarize people and force them to sacrifice their individualism for a greater acceptance. And i think studies on crowd psychology back that up, groups tend to be come irrational even when they’re made up of separately rational people. Its not my intention to turn us into a hive mind. I just want to make sure we’re all working for the same goal here, and its not “f~~~ women they can all burn in hell for being such major pricks” but “how do we solve these cultural issues to the best of our ability”.

[SisyphusParticipant 4]

I’m always reluctant to believe that these experiments accurately represent human reality, but you must admit that they are pretty scary. Once an r/ type species such as rats or mice becomes overpopulated, violence and death of the population are ensued unless something happens – and that something has always been war in our case. War decimates men and makes them more valuable, returning to something stable.

[KeepQuietParticipant 114]

Human existence is a little more complicated then that of the mouse experiment. I could say I related a lot to what the beautiful ones had represented. This world was not of my creation nor did i have a choice to come to it but everything is the way it is either way. No matter the generosity, kindness, empathy and whatever i had to offer was of little value to the opposite sex let alone the same sex. When everyone always has some other agenda to fulfill you start to wonder where you really fit in all of this. Example as when all societal expectations are filled there begins a fall out.

My behavior has changed, changed because i could not find any answers where ever i had looked. Disappointment over such a long period of time changes you. Lowering your standards or just making due without. Getting used to nothing. Enjoying that nothing is what you were destined to be. I had only hoped that the longer i push the long i fight and the longer i work that i could find a solution to most simplest of problems. Though that would not be the case.

There are problems between the sexes. It’s only apparent on this side though. The boy behind the toy shop glass who has no idea what the future hold’s for him. People comment on that this approach is like turning your back on humanity. For how long do men live with their own value stripped from them. For how long do they need to loath themselves and question what the f~~~ is wrong with them. How long do we need to wait in this prison of an empty existence

Forgive me for my post’s  they are more rants and disorganized thoughts. There is way too many things to go over without going insane, where your thoughts might get through to someone else who can also relate in some way.

I am a bi racial chinese/french mix with a very rocky background of racial and economic turmoil growing up in the developing north eastern america. From moving around between asia and america and going through different schools its hard to explain why i am here typing this out. I can’t say im sick of it all because it would be an understatement. I’m furious but in a world confined to itself. The amount of control needed to just stay calm and move along even though the world inside you is crumbling brick by brick. The most enjoyable things you value you yourself for are being written off left and right as insignificant. I could only imagine what kind of person i would be if i wasn’t treated like an unnecessary piece of human waste.

It’s only human to think that gratitude and being thankful for the generous act of others would carry true. This world that had a special place in my heart that slowly died. That the ideas in my head were the only thing’s that could get me through the unbearable constant nothing that i experienced day in day out. The nothing that i had grown to love that it would surely humor me because it was all the same everyday. No matter how many different people you interacted with over the course of many years.  I had thought i was dealt a s~~~ty hand. This unstoppable impossible rat race.

How much does it take to get the pressure off your chest your mind and your spirit. How much conviction do you need to go against your own biological needs. How much do you need to sacrifice to validate your own existence as a human when your biological counterpart wasn’t designed in anyway shape or form to do just that but that is what we feel we need. Or at least at this end that the world around me was so dark due to my mother that i thought maybe i could find one who would think of in a new light.

How many dead ends do you need to get too until you take that dry course and irritating red pill. That you are finally aware of what the world around you see’s you as. That your thoughts, happiness, dream’s , ect ect ect are of no importance to this world. I have worked most of my life behind a black jack table grinding away to make that block of cheese that much bigger. To what end? Growing up in poverty to be treated as less  than s~~~ to working and finally having something in this world to be compared to some much fatter rat who has it all and then some.

Where are we going? No one really knows. Well most have a pretty good idea of what’s to come but they jumped ship. That there really is no incentive to care about  things they aren’t necessarily needed for. That the qualities they find most valuable to them have been written off like it isn’t human to be compassionate or empathetic or generous ect ect.

When it comes to rat’s or mice and what not how far can you go to really stand out between a civilization of them when there are very few qualities to distinguish them as unique. Where as the beautiful ones are the ones who stood out the most. We can still make choices in this world as humans. It’s not like we really wanted to opt out. We have no other choice then to disappear, slip out the back, jump ship, ghost.  No one listens anyways. You could be the ambassador of truth yet people will think you are a master bull s~~~ artist.

We want change. Change for the better in a world that only knows how to take. We grow silent because what little we ask for is always heard on deaf ears. The masses cant understand you. You can speak our language all you want but we don’t actually have to listen. Let me just brush myself under the carpet so you can forget i was even there.

I wonder if any of us are all that happy? How could they when they could care less about how anyone else feels.

 

And again forgive me for how disorganized it is but i dont do this often. I have tried to make it somewhat understandable to a certain degree. I have observed my surroundings for many years thinking i could get a better grasp of things only to find myself completely out of orbit.  Off to some other planet because this one doesn’t give a rat’s ass about me.

[TheGouliatParticipant 20]

@ the Mouse Universe experiment: I think it shows quite well what happens now in Western Countries. The Mice had Richness, so Who is the best Food provider was deleted from the attractivness Spectrum. The Female Mice then were missing a Natural link to the attractiveness of the males, pushing other aspects forward.

 

As the State is now the Provider for Wimen, the male provider attrectiveness is deleted as above, Human females now push other aspects forward.

 

As the natural, intinctiv aspect was missing, another aspect was pushed in front: Violence, the right of the Strongest.

 

In the Video it was mentioned that Groups were formed( as all areas were build the same for acces to ressouces, some areas were more Prioritised of others).

Think of the Football Caiptain who have his Clique or the Cheerleader Caiptain/whatever who have their followers.

 

All animals(and yes, we Humans are nothing more then Anminals) have build Survival instincts into them( those who did not are extinct, called evolution) and those instincts are kind of 90% same for all.

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