You've all heard of the mouse universe?

[flightspaceSpectator 207]

I’m sure those of you that have know that we MGTOW are the beautiful ones…

The mouse experiment shows what happens when a utopian society of mice has limited space, but infinite resources, food and the ability to reproduce. With little competition over food, the female mice became far more selective in their breeding choices, becoming violent against potential mates. Many of the male mice dubbed “the beautiful ones” for their lack of scars, withdrew, focusing on their own needs. Eventually, despite having the food and resources to survive indefinitely, this resulted in a mass scale, voluntary extinction.

Of course if this trend keeps up it’ll end in the extinction of the human race. The only thing that will stop us from our inevitable socialized destruction is the one thing that separates us from the mice… Consciousness, self awareness. No mouse has ever studied an experiment like this of their own. The mice could not see it coming. We can. And thats why i think now is the single most important event in human history, and MGTOWs have the single most important responsibility in human history, to provoke and sway female consciousness, not just to withdraw, but to encourage a difference in the way we treat and deal with each other, which may even be against our own impulses biologically. What the mouse universe shows is the female reaction to the globalization of pussy, just like companies who outsource to india because the internet opens up a much wider range of potential business, putting all but the cheapest options out of business, resulting in mass scale unemployment. The same thing is happening with pussy, and facebook, online dating sites, these are the culprits. Our true enemy isn’t women, but globalization, and their narcissism, hypocrisy, elitism and insensitivity, are just symptoms of the problem which is environmental rather than internal.

[PlatoParticipant 48]

Humans will never be extinct. I can accept, worst case, a 99.99% wipe out.

[RedHeadedStrangerParticipant 204]

It’s nature’s built-in backstop for out of control r-selecting populations.  I am K-selective.  After the s~~~ goes down this century, K-selection will be back in charge.  That’s my hope for the future, at least.

[DakotaParticipant 341]

My hope for THE END is that I get a good seat to watch it all go down.

I’ll laugh my ass off watching all these so called “Preppers” scurrying off to their caves where the female “rats” will eat all their supplies and bitch that they’ve run out of toilet paper.  A bunch of women in an underground bunker will make you pray for that asteroid to be a planet killer.  With no formal employment to escape the vaginal malcontents, the men of the colony will be dead in a week…tops.  And happily so.

[Anonymous 1]

There is another experiment, that explains the female privilege.

This one:

Notice the 4th mouse, the one that checked out from that stupid experiment and went his own way.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Id like too save the world from women …… but how are they going to learn? Just another WK bailing them out.

Sorry Ive my beer, gun and dog. Light her up I say.

[Anonymous 1]

Sorry, I saw the video and forgot to actually read the post.

*reading*

flightspace wrote:

MGTOWs have the single most important responsibility in human history, to provoke and sway female consciousness, not just to withdraw, but to encourage a difference in the way we treat and deal with each other, which may even be against our own impulses biologically.

And there you are forgetting one tiny, little detail…. Women have AGENCY. Why this obsession with putting all the burden of “saving the human race” on Mgtow? Go tell this stuff to women, they are the ones breaking havoc and are using every little bit of resource they can put their hands on. Men, and specially Mgtows, already did more then their fare share. Let us rest, for crying out loud.

 

flightspace wrote:

What the mouse universe shows is the female reaction to the globalization of pussy, just like companies who outsource to india because the internet opens up a much wider range of potential business, putting all but the cheapest options out of business, resulting in mass scale unemployment. The same thing is happening with pussy, and facebook, online dating sites, these are the culprits.

Aaaaannnddd?? Yeah, the value of pussy is declining, as it should. Pussy was ALWAYS overrated anyway, but women managed to OVERPRICE it to such an extent that it broke the whole MARKET. You make it sound like it was a bad thing. It is NOT.

flightspace wrote:

Our true enemy isn’t women, but globalization, and their narcissism, hypocrisy, elitism and insensitivity, are just symptoms of the problem which is environmental rather than internal.

Again, bailing out women from their actions. Sure, it is not women that are doing this with themselves… It is the corporations. Bulls~~~! Women have agency, they have free will. In the end of the day THEY are the ones doing all this crap to THEMSELVES. Coming here to ask MGTOWs to act like a WHITE KNIGHT in behalf of women is waaaay off mark.

I could argue more, but it is late, and I am tired.

Go forth sir knight, go save the damsels. I will stay here, see that the ceiling is on fire and let the motherf~~~er burn. Burn motherf~~~er…. BUUUUUUUUUURN

Good night everyone.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

No female is going to live off me ever again.I will get up and leave without  saying a word.

Word to the wise and to be wise.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Let’s not forget, we live in “peace time”. There has been no major war for 70 years in the western world. But you can bet your ass, women never behaved like they do when there way of life was threatened – FOR REALZ. If western countries were in a war situation and things got really dark and dire, there would be no “feminism” or women with nothing better to do with their lives than tweet as “social justice warriors”.

Women are simply not in a position to “be selective” as they pretend – or as your video implies.

There is a MAJOR man shortage happening and everyone can read about the female population grappling with this almost daily.. Japan is facing non existence as a nation in 60 years if the “herbivore” (MGTOW) culture persists over there. There is just no inspiration.

Women don’t have “too many options”. They are running out of them. FAST.
There are simply not enough men to satisfy their own hypergamy.

But “hypergamy” didn’t exist in 1945. Women couldn’t afford it. European women (and men!!) were glad to get a goddam potato to eat in a week… and that’s all they got if they were lucky – for more than 6 years. I have surviving relatives to tell me this tale, and they did when I prepared a meal for them on a visit one Easter Sunday. I made a FEAST, and one of them actually started crying. She said “here I sit 65 years after the war, and I am having this FANTASTIC meal someone prepared for me”. There were tears in her eyes.. and she could barely grasp what was happening.

To this day, she sits down for tea and a piece of cake and she says the same thing all the time:
“ACH! Haben WIR es gut. Haben…. WIR…. es ….. gut”.

Translation: “God do we ever have it good. Do we. Ever. Have. It. Good.”

Western Women today simply don’t know how good they have it.
They are the most ungrateful, privileged , toxic, outrageously arrogant creatures ever to roam the Earth.

No exaggeration.

This is one of the most famous photographs of all time. LIFE magazine cover. 1945. A sailor so grateful to be alive walked through times square celebrating his own freedom and kissed every woman in his path. The photographer (Alfred Eisenstadt) saw this and ran ahead to capture it. Look at the faces of the woman looking on. Absolutely JOYOUS in looking on as everyone around recognized the value of life and freedom.

••••

70 years later, this is the modern western c~~~ today:

••••

The kind of behavior we see from women today is an abomination. Touting “rape culture” when men everywhere aren’t even asking them out or approaching them for ANYTHING anymore. Calling TWEETS and waiting in a room “harassment”. That nurse in the photo above would be crying “RAAAAAAAPE!!!!!!!!” today. But I do agree the enemy is not women themselves. They just don’t know any better. It’s white knights, blue pill cops, lawmakers, and the women of infludence in ridiculous ABUSED positions of authority they didn’t even fight and die to earn.

Make no mistake. Have no illusions. Just like you will never see a “feminist” in a burning building , or on a sinking ship – because they will always expect men to rescue them – it will only take a good shake to reduce it all to rubble. But THIS time, women will dig themselves out of their own mess.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RoyDalParticipant]

RedHeadedStranger wrote:

K-selection will be back in charge.  That’s my hope for the future, at least.

Same here!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Anonymous wrote:

Notice the 4th mouse, the one that checked out from that stupid experiment and went his own way.

pffhahaaha. I didn’t get it at first, as I watched this video months ago and remember there was 3 rats. (2 parasitic, 1 worker (blue pill))

Well played 😉

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[clint englandParticipant 341]

Amazing how mindless rodents, created a parasitic society and how the human race has gone the same way! Just goes to show how humans are not as smart as they think.

This doesn’t include all us guys here of course. 🙂

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

clint england wrote:

Amazing how mindless rodents, created a parasitic society and how the human race has gone the same way! Just goes to show how humans are not as smart as they think. This doesn’t include all us guys here of course.

Thing is, we just have no other option really but to get away. and Mars One is already full. 😀

 

Also what seems curious to me :

Developed country/nation – sounds like an End. Already at its peak.

Developing country/nation – sounds like it’s population got a Future ahead of it.

 

Imho : Western civilizations will die out themselves, by the environment and laws they create. And immigrating nations will take over.

Wars on East seems like a catalyst aswell, for running away to West/Europe. Not only that makes enemies, but also people lose homes and run.

Latvia will possibly have a wave of African immigrants (people getting away from war etc) for instance (EU “asked us” to do it.), just as we speak, it’s all over the news here. And we have our own problems here, with our own people, so how can we help others if we can’t even fix our own s~~~ haha.

 

I dunno what will happen in time, Im just speculating. Also, I agree that Japan will be very telling as an “experiment”.

Also, I agree that we, comparing to mouse, can actually make changes. There is always Hope. “Hope dies last.”

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[flightspaceSpectator 207]

I’m not talking about bailing out their sorry asses, i know they have free will. I’m just suggesting we urge them to use it instead of being powerless to the environmental factors that turn them into entitled freeloading pieces of s~~~. When was the last beautiful woman you’ve seen that didn’t get her head stuck up her ass? Sure, she has a choice there, but she doesn’t take it, and like it or not, she’s going to need to for our species to survive.

You desperately want someone to fight here and you forget that we’re all MGTOW. Like it or not, women are necessary for 1/2 of the procreation of the human race. And they’ve exploited that fact for decades, and they’re going to need to stop exploiting it if they don’t want it to end in mass scale extinction. YOU are welcome to wash your hands of it, but i thought the whole point of MGTOW was to prove a statement of self-ownership, that we’re not going to be manipulated by such tactics? Not to spite the female race in some misguided attempt to end humanity. I always felt like the goal was, they’d get the point eventually and our movement will have made a difference.

 

The way i look at it, most human beings are opportunists. When they see something as being in their self interest, all they need is permission to make it happen. A man needs no further motivation to do something evil, than for his environment to tell him its ok.

Women exploiting power from the women’s movements is no different than the guards taking power during the stanford prison experiment. And the minds of EVERYONE involved, are collectively, if not completely influenced by environmental factors. And then every now and then you have someone like prisoner 416, who’s sheer conscious will to oppose the system presented to him is so strong that it tampers with the social roles of everyone else involved. It takes a special kind of mind to be consciously more powerful than your environment. And women are rarely so. They are passive, unmotivated, creatures, but i don’t think they are entirely incapable of this. I lived this reality. I was imprisoned, unconstitutionally, in a place about 10x worse than the stanford prison experiment, of which i am now suing, but i was the prisoner 416 of this dynamic. Or rather, prisoner 17, but i never conformed to the general sociopathy that infected both the guards and prisoners. And i have to believe if i can consciously oppose a system enforced by hundreds of people under threat of death or violence, i have to believe there is a woman out there that can oppose the feminist propaganda machine under threat of social estrangement. But its not going to be easy for her if the MGTOW movement doesn’t welcome women like that with open arms, and you can say, good luck, you’re on your own bitch and hold her past actions against her, or you can look to the future, where men and women work in harmony rather than on separate ends of a battlefield.

[flightspaceSpectator 207]

RedHeadedStranger wrote:

It’s nature’s built-in backstop for out of control r-selecting populations. I am K-selective. After the s~~~ goes down this century, K-selection will be back in charge. That’s my hope for the future, at least.

Well sure, but think about who’s genes are being passed on now. Any man with sense is going MGTOW, so only the men without sense are passing on their seed. Every year that K-selection isn’t the modus operandi, the idiocracy is growing. I move that we actually try to get s~~~ done, since i’ve been watching MGTOW since it started and i haven’t seen one bit of difference in the female population. I mean its good to focus on your individualism, yeah? But do we have to watch entire cultures crumble just to prove a point?

[RedHeadedStrangerParticipant 204]

flightspace wrote:

Red-Headed Stranger wrote:

It’s nature’s built-in backstop for out of control r-selecting populations. I am K-selective. After the s~~~ goes down this century, K-selection will be back in charge. That’s my hope for the future, at least.

Well sure, but think about who’s genes are being passed on now. Any man with sense is going MGTOW, so only the men without sense are passing on their seed. Every year that K-selection isn’t the modus operandi, the idiocracy is growing. I move that we actually try to get s~~~ done, since i’ve been watching MGTOW since it started and i haven’t seen one bit of difference in the female population. I mean its good to focus on your individualism, yeah? But do we have to watch entire cultures crumble just to prove a point?

Yes, we do have to watch it burn, but not to prove a point.  The phoenix rises from the ashes.  r-selection is genetic AND environmental; it occurs in our species when resources are abundant.  The welfare state, social norms, and gynocentric courts create the environment which reward the r-selectors at the expense of K-selectors.

Lets face it gents, many MGTOW are divorced.  Many of us have children.  Many of us have custody.  Many of us want nothing more than for human nature to be different than what it is.  And many of us would have been happy as pigs in s~~~ if our wives hadn’t cheated and cleaned out our bank accounts; because we prioritize our family over getting some strange — and we just wish women would do the same.  Until we genetically modify ourselves to eliminate r-selection (if possible, I’m not convinced); we have to modify the environment.  This is the focus and the futility of the MRA’s and MRM’s.  It is the glory of the ghost.

Gynocentrism is in our DNA.  One egg/ten million sperm.  One queen, ten million knights.  One mother, 4 kids, 6 fathers.  I may be a slave to my genes, but I will NOT be a slave to my environment.  I am a rational animal, and if I cannot alter my genes, I will alter my environment.  Environmental manipulation is our ONLY method of survival.  Get your vasectomy.  Begin your expatriation process now.  Don’t be stuck in here with these parasites when the wall goes up.  Watch from afar as they kill the host.  Then stand guard at the wall, and don’t let any of them out of their chosen and self-imposed hells.

I know it would be great if the MRM’s and MRA’s achieved their goals, but to what end?  After they clean up the courts, they have to clean up our societal mores — mores based upon the gynocentrism in our genes.  So they will have to champion transhumanism.  See how Herculean is their task?  MGTOW is the only practical solution.  Some men will never reproduce, that’s fine.  Those who have will say, ‘you had your chance bitches, you fuct it up, the kids are ours, f~~~ off.’

Longer than I anticipated, if you made it this far, thanks for your time.

 

[DakotaParticipant 341]

RedHeadedStranger wrote:

Get your vasectomy. Begin your expatriation process now. Don’t be stuck in here with these parasites when the wall goes up. Watch from afar as they kill the host. Then stand guard at the wall, and don’t let any of them out of their chosen and self-imposed hells.

AMEN.  Look, I love watching the lay-deez tongue-fight and battle over men’s issues more than most.  And I’d love to buy’em a beer and a shot after they get done scrapping it out.  But, I’m under no illusion that MGTOW or any other such contrivance is going to make the least impact on Western Society.  It’s kind of like saying that The Tea Party is going to fix what’s wrong with the political system in the US.  Uh…no.  Marriage and family and other such nonsense is/has been on the decline for some time now.  The average life span of civilizations is 500 years.  No foreign invader defeated the mighty Roman Empire…folks stop giving a s~~~ and just walked away.  You lay-deez want it all?  You got it!

I volunteer to stand on the wall and hold the line…keep these motherf~~~ers IN!

[Anonymous 1]

flightspace wrote:

I’m not talking about bailing out their sorry asses, i know they have free will. I’m just suggesting we urge them to use it instead of being powerless to the environmental factors that turn them into entitled freeloading pieces of s~~~

Yes you are, wanna bet?

flightspace wrote:

When was the last beautiful woman you’ve seen that didn’t get her head stuck up her ass? Sure, she has a choice there, but she doesn’t take it, and like it or not, she’s going to need to for our species to survive.

Well, so she needs to take her head of her ass for our species to survive? So she better start moving. Not sure why I should get involved. If I need to put MY ASS in the line, expecting NOTHING in return, for our species to survive, then I am sorry to say that’s the end of the human race.

flightspace wrote:

You desperately want someone to fight here and you forget that we’re all MGTOW. Like it or not, women are necessary for 1/2 of the procreation of the human race.

Oh, accusations, how I love them.

Yes, I want to debate, that’s my nature. And when I am proven wrong, I rectify myself. So far that was not the case. We are all Mgtow, so what? Because we are all (supposedly) mgtow does not mean we have all to agree on everything. In fact, debate is the STRENGTH of Mgtow. it makes much, MUCH harder to attack several individuals then on big giant block that thinks the same. If you want conformity just because of a label, or a penis, I am glad to disappoint.

Besides, women being necessary for the procreation of the human race does not concern me. If in order to the human race to live MAN have to be sacrificed to women, then I would gladly watch it burn. You can jump into the fire, go save the damsels. I will live my life the best I can.

flightspace wrote:

YOU are welcome to wash your hands of it, but i thought the whole point of MGTOW was to prove a statement of self-ownership, that we’re not going to be manipulated by such tactics?

And isn’t that what washing our hands is? We prove our self-ownership by caring for ourselves and ourselves only. We look after our brothers, to a certain extent, but each one of us pull our own weight, without being manipulated by such tactics. I am not contradicting myself here. You are the one telling Mgtow to try to convince women of their own stupid behavior, not me.

flightspace wrote:

Not to spite the female race in some misguided attempt to end humanity. I always felt like the goal was, they’d get the point eventually and our movement will have made a difference.

I am not attempting to end humanity. Where this f~~~ing argument came from? I am trying to live my life, the best way I can, with the least interference of women possible. If this is somehow inconvenient for humanity, then I guess we are doomed, because I will NOT expose myself in order to try to save women from their own s~~~ty decisions.

flightspace wrote:

The way i look at it, most human beings are opportunists. When they see something as being in their self interest, all they need is permission to make it happen. A man needs no further motivation to do something evil, than for his environment to tell him its ok.

I disagree. And speak for yourself while you are at it. I’ve been through too much s~~~ and that just strengthen my resolve in doing what is best for me WITHOUT screwing anybody else. And I have a feeling it is not just me. Look at Mgtow.com? Despite all the s~~~ we are thrown, we are NOT Jezebel yet. If that was true, then Keymaster could just let it rip and I am pretty sure the people coming here would be totally different. Man had all the formal power in the past, and he could have used it to oppress women, just like feminists like to boast. Instead, we tried to do EVERYTHING that was on our power to accommodate and bring women to our level, despite any drawbacks women had. If what you are saying were true, then the feminist “version” of history would be the reality (and ironically feminism would not have existed).

flightspace wrote:

It takes a special kind of mind to be consciously more powerful than your environment. And women are rarely so. They are passive, unmotivated, creatures, but i don’t think they are entirely incapable of this.

Good, then let them learn from their mistakes.

flightspace wrote:

And i have to believe if i can consciously oppose a system enforced by hundreds of people under threat of death or violence, i have to believe there is a woman out there that can oppose the feminist propaganda machine under threat of social estrangement

Except, it is not Feminism, it is female NATURE that is causing this. Way before feminism women were cared for and they would still not be satisfied. Look at women on ISLAM (on developed countries). They don’t need feminism, they don’t want feminism, because they prefer letting the men go to work and break their backs, while they stay at home doing chores that, with today’s technology, can be done in a few hours. Look at women in CHINA, or JAPAN, where, according to some, women are still women (a.k.a “not brainwashed by feminism”). And yet, they would do NOTHING to alleviate men’s burden. Instead they demand MORE. This is not fault of an ideology, it’s their nature and THEY need to fix it. By the way, that’s bailing them out. Called it.

If we “rescue” them, like we always did, from their mistakes, they will never learn. They made their bed, they should lie on it.

flightspace wrote:

But its not going to be easy for her if the MGTOW movement doesn’t welcome women like that with open arms, and you can say, good luck, you’re on your own bitch and hold her past actions against her…

This is called accountability for your actions. And yes, I am all in favor for that.

flightspace wrote:

or you can look to the future, where men and women work in harmony rather than on separate ends of a battlefield.

And back to traditionalism we are. We are back to square 1, where all this freaking mess began. What a load of gynocentric bulls~~~.

You want to go back to the plantation? Work your ass off, while your wife stays at home doing only God knows what? Be my guest.

I will respectfully, but firmly, deny the offer.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

What I believe has happened in human history is that it is fully of individuals who went their own way, and they eventually were the ones who did things that would benefit humanity, even if they were outcasts and so on.  To follow the herd and go off the cliff with them is not a way to live.  Only way to live is to go off your own way, and make sure you make it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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