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[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Of course it was a dig against you. You felt it and that’s what was what she meant to have happen. Men tend to ignore their feelings. Men’s feelings are as valid or more valid than the ever enlarging cessepool of slights women are constantly creating to shame and blame men when the last one peters out.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

uchibenkei wrote:

homes don’t make you a grown up any more than being in a garage makes you a car. Women buy lots of things to feel a certain way, like grown up. That’s how they become what they want to be; by looking like what they want to be and buying it. That’s not grown up. A grown up does what he has to do before he does what he wants to do. Men actually go and do the things they have to do to be what they want to be. If a woman wants to be a thug, she buys a thug outfit and dates a thug. She doesn’t actually do thug things. If she wants to be respected, like a doctor, she goes out and buys respectable clothing and dates a doctor. She doesn’t actually become a doctor or other respectable professional. So a woman’s opinion of you and whether or not you’re a grown up is worthless.

This was a very well thought out and insightful reply. Thank you.

As I said before, this is a family member, so its not simply some “female” I want to ignore. But these tactics are bull s~~~, and are a means to manipulate me INDIRECTLY. If I directly respond then Im too sensitive.

But at one and the same time SHE gets to express what she wants via indirect, read between the lines, bull s~~~. Allowing herself probabale deniability.

This is what p~~~es me off.

Honestly…It truly does.

Resident cynic.

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

(she) immediately asks “are you still at the same apartment and job?”

Her pride/insecurity prompted her to ask that to be sure that she is “ahead” of you.

To quote Madonna, she’s “a material girl”

Did she work or earn that money? NO
Did she spend that money as fast as she could? YES

5 years down the road, when she asks you for money, your answer should be NO.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

That was a dig, in full glory, yes.

But it is good to know that you are debt free… But, can the same be said from her?

I think not…

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Bottom line: That was a dig. She’s telling you that she is “moving forward” with her life, and you aren’t. Because most women I know lack the ability to be content. A woman wants to be “happy”. But happy is a very right now thing. I’m happy right now, but if I walk outside and have a flat tire and have to change it before work, I’m not going to be happy at that time. I’ve said this before but my ex looks at life as a daily 40 yard dash (happy), I view it as a marathon (content).

Content is a longer term look at your position in life, where you are and what you are doing to make it better for yourself. The fact that you are in your same job at your same apartment is a dig from her because happy means some shiny new object, which will have to be replaced by a new shiny object next week because the first one made her happy last week. Some of us are content in our living situation and our job and find fulfillment outside of those two areas. A compassionate person would have asked about hobbies, etc….

Order the good wine

[ChristovParticipant 85]

^ What woman asks about hobbies? That is a f~~~ing dream, brother!

I think sisters are possibly the darkest, most treacherous creatures you’ll come across.
Imagine a woman who feels totally secure in your support… And you have no avenue to divorce.

And if you hold her accountable, et al. Or if you seem superior in any way… You can certainly expect her to leverage the rest of the family against you.

I’m not sure if the other women are agreeable, complacent, or just easily swayed by the sound of another woman’s shrieking.

Myself, I’ve been sorta lucky that the women in my family are charmed by me. My sister holds no sway at all… But that makes it worse, because she has to shriek louder to get attention. She is a crazy bitch. She once threatened to accuse me of molestation. (Zero grounds.) Immediately after being snubbed in favor at a Thanksgiving one year.

[ChristovParticipant 85]

Trust me…

“Family” is the most fundamental element in gynocentrism.

And you can’t have one without embracing the other.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Anonymous wrote:

However I look and read this, taking into consideration that you may have got your sequencing wrong, I think you are being sussed out/probed for other information. Saying that, I can not give a positive answer because I was not standing in front of her, talking and looking the person in the eye and their body language as they spoke to me.

I can’t any fault with this statement.

In my experience, when a woman makes a “passing” comment like this, you are being evaluated, or s~~~ tested.

If a woman doesn’t need anything from you she will not even bring a subject up unless it is to demean you.

A truly experienced fisherman would have asked “How’s your job/working going?” You would have reported any changes in your status as you were prompted by the question. Etc.

I don’t know your sister. Having said that, she could just be socially awkward. If that isn’t the case then……..dangling implications.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Up yours, Cupcake!Participant 27]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

My question is: do you perceive her SAME apartment/job question as a dig?

I read it as a dig coming from insecurity. She knows she took found wealth and, instead of putting it to productive use, traded it for debt (mortgage). At some level she understands this was probably foolish, so she slams your frugality in an effort to make herself feel better about blowing the money and taking on debt. The job remark was probably her effort to further justify blowing the money because, after all, Brother is STILL in THAT job and probably can’t afford to p~~~ the money away like I can, etc. Forgive me for saying this so bluntly, and I mean no insult by it (she is after all just some random woman to me), but she sounds like a dumb c~~~ trying to rationalize being a wastrel.

My avatar = average twat discovering MGTOW

[OldBillParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Im curious to know how most of you would have read into the following exchange. I want your honest opinions without placating to me because it involves a male and female.

Why do you care about your sister’s opinion of you? Why do you care about any woman’s opinion of you? Why do you care if your sister or any woman insulted you? Why do you bother to respond to your sister’s or any woman’s opinions or insults?

Why are you surprised when a woman speaks without regards to feelings of someone else?

Why are you still surprised when a woman acts like a woman?

She can only insult you if you care.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

There are way too many fantastic replies here for me to quote them all. Thanks guys for your input and perspective. As always, much appreciated.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I think sisters are possibly the darkest, most treacherous creatures you’ll come across.

You definitely pick up on an interesting point here; although I wouldnt go that far in my description of my sister lol. But your perspective made me realize the following:

Sisters, have a singularily unique relationship with their brothers- a relationship with a male, that has intrinsic value, but is COMPLETELY devoid of any of the leverage they enjoy as being an object of sexual desire. So none of their crap games work on the brother. He calls her out on her actions and she has nothing to work with. Not withstanding the fact that we STILL treat them with kiddy gloves and pull punches because they are the weaker sex. But your right, Ive seen my sister get exponentially more angry with me than her husband because he doesnt have the b~~~~ to call her out on her bull s~~~. Hell have to live, literally, with the consequences. I wont.

Great point.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

OldBill wrote:

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Im curious to know how most of you would have read into the following exchange. I want your honest opinions without placating to me because it involves a male and female.

Why do you care about your sister’s opinion of you? Why do you care about any woman’s opinion of you? Why do you care if your sister or any woman insulted you? Why do you bother to respond to your sister’s or any woman’s opinions or insults?
Why are you surprised when a woman speaks without regards to feelings of someone else?
Why are you still surprised when a woman acts like a woman?
She can only insult you if you care.

I dont disagree with you and I know you have good intentions, but to answer your question of “why I care”:

Shes family, and the only family I have left at that. I still love her and I love her kids. Having a working and enjoyable relationship would be ideal to me; but there is only so much BS I can endure. I grow weary when the only adjectives and expressions spoken are NEGATIVE from a family member. It just gets f~~~ing ridiculous. I posted this thread in part to vent and in part to see if others would interpret her words the same way.

Thanks for the input. Those are my thoughts.

Resident cynic.

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