Your ex pumpkin never loved you.

[Anonymous 38]

I had a near perfect connection and setup with a near unicorn. She loved me, she really did. She still does.

However that love was based on the great sex I gave her and my promising career, the fact I was basically a chad for her. Of course things changed when I started becoming disillusioned with my job and wanting to have some time out. She was 35 and “needed stability”.

There is no doubt if I was a keen salaryman or was rich, we’d still be together. Her biological need for that ‘stability’ would have been satisfied and she wouldn’t have started her exit.

It all boils down to money/resources, at the end of the day. They will choose that over love almost every time.

This is hard for the more romantic gender to take, since men are used to sacrificing their needs for a noble cause.

[Xavier MaloryParticipant 65]

Anonymous wrote:

Nature or not, I was able to control my want to screw around with better options… she should too.

A lack of loyalty and honesty is unacceptable!

I agree entirely. No man is going to disagree that a woman in her 20’s is hotter than a woman in her 30’s, but we should have realistic expectations. I’m not as in-shape as I was in my 20’s but that’s age. If I’m not expected to look for a hotter piece of ass, I’d like to think the same expectation should apply to women.

And while we’re at it, I’d like a solid gold toilet as well.

The trouble with "Facts" and "Opinions" is the average idiot thinks they're synonyms.

[ghostParticipant]

Stargazer wrote:

Don’t be so dramatic and stop denying the truth.

Yes, women do love men. Of course they do. They just don’t love men the way men love women.

Men love women for WHAT THEY ARE. Young, beautiful, vulnerable and fertile. Men who are in love display that love to a woman by protecting and providing for her. And when the women is NO LONGER those things or a woman who displays them better comes along, men no longer love them. Oh, they’ll keep protecting and providing for them if they’ve got no better option, but not out of love… out of obligation or fear (of the law or of being alone).

Meanwhile, women love men for WHAT THEY CAN DO. Strong, confident, ambitious and resourceful. Women who are in love display that love to a man by giving their bodies to and submitting to him. And when the man is no longer those things or a man who displays them better comes along, women no longer love them. Oh, they’ll keep giving them sex and submitting to them if they’ve got no better option, but not out of love… out of need and fear (of dying of starvation and exposure).

So it really is the same. Dominance for men, hypergamy for women. Two sides of the same coin. Both can and do love, but for different reasons.

Now here comes the fun part… would you rather be loved for WHAT YOU ARE or for WHAT YOU CAN DO?

That’s the rub. Most healthy men WANT to be recognized for their abilities and achievements, just as most healthy women want to be recognized for their beauty and fecundity.

The bottom line: OUR LOVE is real to THEM and THEIR LOVE is real to US. Both kinds are just temporary. They go away as soon the thing that triggered the love is lost or something better comes along.

The sooner you guys realize and accept this, the sooner you can get over being butthurt that your pumpkin only liked you for what you could do for her until you couldn’t do it for her anymore or someone else came along who could do it better.

Every situation is different and not as boiler plate as you are making it seem. I am not “butthurt” either. I am still able to do more for any of my ex pumpkins than the man they are with or have any chance at. Your answer may apply to you, but it does not apply to everyone.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Stargazer wrote:

Meanwhile, women love men for WHAT THEY CAN DO.

…for women.

They don’t give a f~~~ about the things men can do for themselves.

Which means they don’t love the men themselves at all.

Women only love the things they want men to do for them.

Keep them wanting.

[ghostParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

…for women.

They don’t give a f~~~ about the things men can do for themselves.

Which means they don’t love the men themselves at all.

Women only love the things they want men to do for them.

Keep them wanting.

Spot on, sidecar.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Level of love is directly linked to how much you invested in something.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a person, family, relationship, job, a car you restored…
The more time, money and effort you invest in something – the more you love it
Modern women rarely invest anything in you and your relationship, so naturally they couldn’t care or love you much, since they don’t have any skin in the game.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[ghostParticipant]

Russky wrote:

Level of love is directly linked to how much you invested in something.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a person, family, relationship, job, a car you restored…
The more time, money and effort you invest in something – the more you love it
Modern women rarely invest anything in you and your relationship, so naturally they couldn’t care or love you much, since they don’t have any skin in the game.

Spot on, Russky. I have never had a woman invest even a tenth of what I invested in her.

[Anonymous 14]

Nice piece of work you put together here Gambit. Quite an enjoyable read and well done.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Nice piece of work you put together here Gambit. Quite an enjoyable read and well done.

Thanks, Kenobi.

[KaidoParticipant 2395]

Great post bro! And nature can go f~~~ herself for all I care!

What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.

[ghostParticipant]

Kaido wrote:

Great post bro!

Thanks, Kaido.

[Once bitten twice shyParticipant 78]

Just read this, succinctly put is all I can say.

Reading little snippets every now and again such as these always help me through the day and to remind me to never slip back into the blue pill frame of mind.

Thanks Gambit

[ghostParticipant]

Once bitten twice shy wrote:

Just read this, succinctly put is all I can say.

Reading little snippets every now and again such as these always help me through the day and to remind me to never slip back into the blue pill frame of mind.

Thanks Gambit

I am glad this helped. Stay strong, Bitten. We’re all in this together.

[Parker (Freedom Fighter)Participant 99]

Yes, Gambit!

Your post was an excellent one.

I agree that women love men for what utility and provisions they can provide. Women do not like or love men for who they are. That is exactly where the belittling comes from. I am sooooo glad women have never taken a liking to me! I have seen first hand how women treat men and I want no part of it.

Although, I do have to give the women who I have dated props in life. They were honest with me on what their intentions were. One wanted me to take care of her and the other wanted to get pregnant with my kid. Can’t blame them for the honesty!

I appreciate the honesty as it gave me insight as to how and what, exactly these women were. Good thing they came right out and stated their intentions!

Take care brothers!

[ghostParticipant]

Parker (Freedom Fighter) wrote:

Women do not like or love men for who they are.

This is a bitter pill to swallow, regardless.

Parker (Freedom Fighter) wrote:

That is exactly where the belittling comes from.

Yup. That is why they keep trying to shame us.

Parker (Freedom Fighter) wrote:

Although, I do have to give the women who I have dated props in life. They were honest with me on what their intentions were. One wanted me to take care of her and the other wanted to get pregnant with my kid. Can’t blame them for the honesty!

I appreciate the honesty as it gave me insight as to how and what, exactly these women were. Good thing they came right out and stated their intentions!

Yes, that’s a positive way to look at it.

Parker (Freedom Fighter) wrote:

Your post was an excellent one.

Thank you, sir.

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