Your ex pumpkin never loved you.

[ghostParticipant]

She was either physically attracted to you, valued what you could provide for her or both. If it was both then she figured out that you were just too smart for her and she could not waste more time. She is getting older and needed to lock it in. She wanted to satisfy the urge to have a baby and secure her future.

She never loved you the same way you loved her. She was designed by nature to be this way. You cannot really blame her because she was born like this. She has no clue what she is doing because she cannot override her hormones, especially when she is young and fertile.

Forgive your ex pumpkin and be happy that you are not the poor soul who has to put up with her for the rest of his life, or until she decides to cheat on him. Forgive yourself as well because you simply did not have enough knowledge at the time or would never had fallen in love. You were designed by nature to love her. You know better now and won’t fall into nature’s trap again.

Smile and enjoy your newfound life.

MGTOW.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

This is one of the toughest, but most important red pills to swallow. Great insight Gambit.

Women don’t love men, they love what men can provide for them.

As a general rule, loves goes from men to women to kids to pets. The type of love that goes the other way is usually superficial.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

ghost wrote:

Forgive your ex pumpkin and be happy that you are not the poor soul who has to put up with her for the rest of his life, or until she decides to cheat on him. Forgive yourself as well because you simply did not have enough knowledge at the time or would never had fallen in love.

Smile and enjoy your newfound life.

It sounds like you have overcome, or are close to overcoming the red pill rage that was affecting you.

Peace feels great.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[DocParticipant]

Good post Gambit.

I listened to Stardusk saying it and the lens clicked into place. So I be a happy gathering for me and my kids now. I have already told my ex to not come sniffing at my door when she’s been kicked off the carousel.
My kids keep saying to her they want to live with me forever and not their mother. Exquisite.
She’s always out with Chad FFS.
They want to e with me because they aren’t competing with some f~~~ing intruder into their lives.

Rage be a building.
I’ll sort it.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 43]

your next pumpkin special snowflake cupcake won’t really love you for you either. she wants yer cash.

[DocParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

your next pumpkin special snowflake cupcake won’t really love you for you either. she wants yer cash.

What next pumpkin special snowflake cupcake…???
Damn them all.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[ghostParticipant]

Doc wrote:

What next pumpkin special snowflake cupcake…???
Damn them all.

I now have a built-in anti-pumpkin defense system to repel potential special snowflake cupcakes. As soon as I spot one, the MGTOW logo flashes before me and neutralizes the threat.

This actually happened at the gym last night. I had a level 10 attraction to this potential snowflake cupcake. She was provoking me in every way you can imagine. The defense system functioned properly and the threat was safely avoided.

[DocParticipant]

ghost wrote:

DocDJ wrote:

What next pumpkin special snowflake cupcake…???
Damn them all.

I now have a built-in anti-pumpkin defense system to repel potential special snowflake cupcakes. As soon as I spot one, the MGTOW logo flashes before me and neutralizes the threat.

I can imagine that.
When I’m out and about and encounter girls I look away. I know it f~~~s with their heads. Not hard given most carry so much extra fat these days.
I do it with all though because it’s just easier.
Nice and simple. Not interested.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

I run into some of the same group of women in our circle of friends and they act offended when I don’t react to their attention-whoring tactics.
They usually ask if something is wrong with me.
Nope. Not me.
I probably won’t be welcome in that circle for much longer.
I’ll get over it.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Forgiveness? I’m not Jesus, pay for the sin and then we might talk.

Forgetting is not a choice.

Those who let go a rabid dog, will get biten by it.

I will never forgive my ex, and we all know women never ask for forgiveness, they are never sorry.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Carnage, you are so right.
I noticed shortly after marriage that my second wife was incapable of admitting fault and never, never apologized to me for ANYTHING, no matter how big or small.
I told her that I noticed this about her and she hit the f~~~ing roof!
It was very telling.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

bstoff wrote:

Carnage, you are so right.
I noticed shortly after marriage that my second wife was incapable of admitting fault and never, never apologized to me for ANYTHING, no matter how big or small.
I told her that I noticed this about her and she hit the f~~~ing roof!
It was very telling.

One basic trait of narcissist, they are never wrong, they never apologize.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 42]

No biggie, We learned how to not love them better then they ever knew how to not love us!

F~~~ THEM ALL!

^^^I MEAN THAT!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Don’t be so dramatic and stop denying the truth.

Yes, women do love men. Of course they do. They just don’t love men the way men love women.

Men love women for WHAT THEY ARE. Young, beautiful, vulnerable and fertile. Men who are in love display that love to a woman by protecting and providing for her. And when the women is NO LONGER those things or a woman who displays them better comes along, men no longer love them. Oh, they’ll keep protecting and providing for them if they’ve got no better option, but not out of love… out of obligation or fear (of the law or of being alone).

Meanwhile, women love men for WHAT THEY CAN DO. Strong, confident, ambitious and resourceful. Women who are in love display that love to a man by giving their bodies to and submitting to him. And when the man is no longer those things or a man who displays them better comes along, women no longer love them. Oh, they’ll keep giving them sex and submitting to them if they’ve got no better option, but not out of love… out of need and fear (of dying of starvation and exposure).

So it really is the same. Dominance for men, hypergamy for women. Two sides of the same coin. Both can and do love, but for different reasons.

Now here comes the fun part… would you rather be loved for WHAT YOU ARE or for WHAT YOU CAN DO?

That’s the rub. Most healthy men WANT to be recognized for their abilities and achievements, just as most healthy women want to be recognized for their beauty and fecundity.

The bottom line: OUR LOVE is real to THEM and THEIR LOVE is real to US. Both kinds are just temporary. They go away as soon the thing that triggered the love is lost or something better comes along.

The sooner you guys realize and accept this, the sooner you can get over being butthurt that your pumpkin only liked you for what you could do for her until you couldn’t do it for her anymore or someone else came along who could do it better.

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Come on Doc, that doesn’t explain the chicks that try to give it up to us NSA.

They love dick too

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

ghost wrote:

both then she figured out that you were just too smart for her and she could not waste more time. She is getting older and needed to lock it in. She wanted to satisfy the urge to have a baby and secure her future.

Well as due to personal experience and just collecting the evidence it shows that women do not switch their hypergamy into overdrive till they are ready to start a family to which then no matter how hot their ex was, no matter how much of an asshole he was (aka attractive) or how good the relationship was in general, she will dump you for a man that makes more money then you due to hypergamy.

This is a reason i am not into marriage at all as i do not see myself being the richest of guys (my personal mission might wind me up living in a van or in prison for a period). Any relationships i have are good but they cannot last even if i married young (aka young fling) because the hypergamy switch kicks on and the woman kicks me out of the door.

ghost wrote:

She never loved you the same way you loved her

The only time and the closet time a woman could love a man is during their youth or if the man was part of it (aka one of her first f~~~s or at least a very early one). Outside of that window women cannot love men even in their own way.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Carnage wrote:

bstoffers wrote:

Carnage, you are so right.
I noticed shortly after marriage that my second wife was incapable of admitting fault and never, never apologized to me for ANYTHING, no matter how big or small.
I told her that I noticed this about her and she hit the f~~~ing roof!
It was very telling.

One basic trait of narcissist, they are never wrong, they never apologize.

Thank you both for this bit. It’s true, their hamster will rationalize anything for them as long as the man is at fault.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She never loved me… Hard to accept, but could very well be true. It starts with just another hop on hop off the CC and you just so happen to be there. Mix that up with baby rabies and she’ll stick around as long as she sees you have money. Even if you lose your job it’s o.k. because she will support you… but not because she loves you but because she thinks she can ‘fix the money machine’. You, the guy, may take it as concern, as a helping hand, but it’s not anything of the sort. It’s her taking you to the side and popping open the trunk to see what can be done to get you back up and running like she imagines you should. When they are stubborn as hell, like my ex, they work on you for years, thinking about getting you always back up and running, meanwhile you, the guy, perceive her intervention as care, as concern. It’s not and it’s sad, it’s a shame and soulless. She’ll disguise her ‘fixing you’ and make it look to the world like she’s being a good wife, or girlfriend… She’s just seeing if she can fix what she got involved in, the CC took her on one particular guy for longer than expected that’s all. She never got off… She was and always will be riding the CC. She hits the wall then panics, because you’ve lost your job and it looks like she won’t be able to fix the situation, you, the guy, remain out of a job too long, you’re ready for the junk heap, she can toss you with a phone call, she can replace you and turn you into Uncle Dad as soon as her desperation in not finding a replacement within a few months causes her to latch onto a Capt’n Save-A-Hoe. She’ll even disregard the moral ground she concedes to filth as she air-drops her Chad into her life and right there into the safe place for your children, their home.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Mr.BlueParticipant 614]

damn

[Anonymous 7]

I understand that most want to forgive and forget, but I have not.

I understand the differences in our love. I understand the different urges, wants, and callings.

What I don’t understand is we are supposed to be civilized.

Nature or not, I was able to control my want to screw around with better options… she should too.

A lack of loyalty and honesty is unacceptable!

Nature or not, when a commitment is made, the vows acknowledged, and you put your whole life on the line… she better follow the same.

Nature or not, you don’t f~~~ up someone’s life because you’re bored, unhappy at present, or wanting new.

Men’s nature is now continually constrained while women’s is encouraged. This is wrong, and they know it.

What is it called when you purposefully go against your obligations, promises, and poison that which is righteous?

As far as I’m concerned, I’m done giving a s~~~ about their fleeting “love”. I’m tired of being taken for a ride.

Figuratively, I’ve now taken the wheel, and I’m driving right the f~~~ over all of it.

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