"You know, it's normal to enjoy the company of girls"

[the roadParticipant 3125]

No offense to your mother but she is institutionalized. Of course she thinks as she does, her schooling has also taught her to be that way and to use their pre defined set of parameters as a measurement for what is normal.

I used to think the way that we are (as MGTOW) is not normal. That was until I realized that the way we are is a natural response to the way that things have become. No person man or woman wants to be in a situation that enslaves them. Society has tipped the balance of power in favor of women in regard to the family (and other ways too but that’s beyond the scope of my reply). If you don’t do as a wife tells you, bam, divorce and alimony. Oh you have kids? Say goodbye to your kids as well- doesn’t matter if you were a perfect father- they are gone, including the house that you likely paid the majority for. Oh, and all those things you earned and accumulated before the marriage- probably gone.

She is also emotionally attached to her way of thinking, by you not following the path that she has set for you, you are plucking on her strings of reality. She will fight to protect her reality at all costs by any means including insults and belittling you.

Whatever your reasons are for not associating much with women are fine. You are likely choosing this way because it feels more natural. She is trying to control and manipulate you into following her goals and dreams and also because she probably feels pressure from the matriarchy (her female friends). You are under no obligation to do what someone else tells you to do.

#MANOUT

[BeeParticipant 700]

Tell mom that you’re single because you have high standards and don’t want to settle for just anyone or be in a relationship just to be on one if it’s not serious. That you don’t want to waste her time if she’s not the one.

They’ll eat that s~~~ up.

[AttonParticipant]

From what you said about your mother I think the truth in some form is appropriate. Personally I think a respectful and rather simple no is all that is needed. Don’t go into specifics just answer it with no consistently she will fill in the blanks based on your actions.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 22]

If women were how they should be.. caring, loving, trustworthy, feminine I would enjoy their company. But they’re not like that.

I don’t think it’s normal to enjoy the company of people that have no manners, whether those are men or women.

[alchemistParticipant 484]

You need to highlight that it has nothing to do with weather the people are men or women. you simply do not enjoy hanging out with arseholes and enjoy being around people who you relate to and can relax around. No gender issues there.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

: “You know, it’s normal to enjoy the company of girls”
: “Really? Do you know where I can find some? Because all I ever meet are annoying greedy selfish whiny bitches.”

[Anonymous 3]

Well you could tell your mom to get you a wife. Then when she sees how worthless modern women are, she might shut up. That has happened with a lot of guys I know actually.

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

Cali wrote:

I haven’t told my mom about MGTOW, or she’d probably ban it from her house (she’s already asked me to stop talking about some of my viewpoints around other family members). I can understand where she’s coming from (she’s a therapist, so she can be rather sensitive about such things. Plus, she gets to meet a lot of women who come in for counseling who have been abused and cheated on and all), but she really tends to get emotional when the subject of me and girls comes up.

Ok those highlighted are the problem. She has no wish to hear your views, opinions or offer helpful advice, but in her capacity as a therapist is on hand to help and advise a group of strangers over her own son.
Use this. Explain your reasons for avoiding women and see how she reacts. Ask why she will listen and help others but not you. Why are you, her own son, less important. Remember its her perception that it’s abnormal / weird to not be chasing girls. Explain why you want to do what you want. Its not like you’re breaking the law. As a mum and therapist she should listen and accept your choices in life.
If this doesn’t work then leave as others suggest, if your circumstances allow.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[BeeParticipant 700]

If you think about it….

Young boys have no interest in girls. They instinctively know they have nothing in common with them. Then puberty hits and pussy is all he thinks about.

Personally, I’ve not met many women that have anything interesting to say or do. It is the opposite. They expect you to be the cruise director and find ways to entertain them. If you entertain them enough, you get vagina.

[Anonymous 3]

Ohno wrote:

Her intentions are, believe it or not, to have grandchildren.

Ohno wrote:

She wants grandchildren and family life, for herself. And if you ever listened to old people talking, they always talk about their children and grandchildren and how awesome they are doing.
Your mom knows what shes doing. She is mostly building her own future…but if you dont procreate, her future is in danger.
A discussion with her is useless, because she wants grandchildren and no arguement that you have can change anything about that.

I totally agree, sometimes I see this thoughts on my mother too. But, good for me, my older sister has created a grandchild “for her”. so less pressure on me.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Yes she wants grand kids. You look her straight in the eyes without blinking and tell her that you are unable to find any girls who are marriage material because modern women don’t want a traditional marriage but someone to pay the bills and be their slave. Tell her she can try and hook you up with someone and she will see for herself the situation you are in.

She sees clients that are like this everyday your mother is not stupid she is just pushing her grand kid agenda on you and you need to see it for what it is. She doesn’t care if you get into a bad marriage so long as she has her grand kids. The same thing has happened to me after I turned 18 every time I would hear my mother ask me when I was going to get married and have grand kids for 23 years! She finally gave up on me when my brother had his son a year ago now she never brings it up I just shake my head sometimes thinking about it.

[RennieParticipant]

How is that? There isn’t much enjoyable about them at all. They are completely vapid and fake.

Even in my teenage years, it was impossible to have an intelligent, or sustained conversation with them. Once the fog lifts, there really is no incentive to have anything to do with them.

I’m at the point now where I don’t even feel the need to ‘jack it’ much anymore and it’s great.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

I’d ghost on her. Do not be around anymore than you have to. If you don’t have your own place, now is the time to get it cracking.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

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