You call yourself an Alpha?

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

It fills my heart with great joy that MGTOWs are abstaining from women. I guess the Red Pill vs MGTOW debate will have to be clarified by a superior. I, for one, think that “Red Pill” is not the proverbial Red Pill because anyone who knows what women truly are will immediately conclude that they’re not worth pursuing.
If anyone uses PUA tactics in the name of Red Pill, then it can be reasonably inferred that they don’t know the truth after all (and hence have not taken the Red Pill).

It would be like Neo saying: “Hey, I know that computers are using us for energy, but since we know the truth, let’s go back into the Matrix to f~~~ with the computers”. Similarly, “Red Pillars” who claim to know truth about women, then spend their time and money to have sex with them only suggests that actually don’t know the truth/or can’t wrap their heads around the extremely sociopath nature of women.

[Long shotParticipant 48]

I guess we are all applying similar definitions to different terms as we each deem fit which is kinda mgtow in a way, similar as to my brother who does natural studies(anthropology but moving to physical biology) and me who has an engineering background, to him alpha and beta are related to dominance (even with people) and to me they mean an equation. Both are right but have completely different meanings.

[a bananaParticipant 288]

again mgtow is not about abstaining from women, we just realise that life is not solely about getting laid..

[Long shotParticipant 48]

Exactly, bolvar. That is what it means to me. I like their shape and feel too much to abstain completely. But don’t justify my actions by their interactions.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Wow, I’m continued to be amazed! Each MGHOW has his own philosophy about women!
– some abstain from women, they would use a whorehouse or miss Palm and her 5 lovely daughters if the need arises
– some don’t give getting laid a priority, but will f~~~ a proverbial whore now and then
– some use the knowledge for the exclusive purpose of leading women on and using them
– some think that it’s the American, Australian and European women that have a problem, they try to find a loving wife from S.America, Asia, Africa, or Antarctica!

Our diversity unites us.

[a bananaParticipant 288]

“some think that it’s the American, Australian and European women that have a problem, they try to find a loving wife from S.America, Asia, Africa, or Antarctica!”

thats a bad idea, women’s nature is generally constant throughout the world, they are not any “better” outside the west

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

That’s what I always say. I’m from Asia and I know the situation here. Chances are, things won’t be any different on other continents too.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Lord Vats wrote:

I, for one, think that “Red Pill” is not the proverbial Red Pill because anyone who knows what women truly are will immediately conclude that they’re not worth pursuing.

Pick up artists aren’t really pursuing women. They’re pursuing sex. There is a difference. One is a fool’s errand, while the other is The Most Dangerous Game.

Lord Vats wrote:

Each MGHOW has his own philosophy about women!

Some simply don’t give any f~~~s.

You are seriously over thinking this stuff.

Lord Vats wrote:

That’s what I always say. I’m from Asia and I know the situation here. Chances are, things won’t be any different on other continents too.

All women are like that. ALL of them.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

I think I’m allowed to overthink. I’ve just got out of the energy capsule.

[Long shotParticipant 48]

Yeah I get it, its like waking up after a massive night in a strange place trying to piece together everything.

[Anonymous 1]

Snake wrote:

MGTOW isn’t about abstaining from women. MGTOW is about a man putting himself first and loving himself.

Which makes such definitions of alpha and beta irrelevant.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anybody see Godzilla 2014? That is an “alpha”. “Monster Going His Own Way”.

It’s nothing to do with Bride-zillas, and “seduction” couldn’t be any further from his mind.
It doesn’t define him. Tell him he’s not an “alpha” and he will just laugh while throwing flames at you.

In the film, there is another monster (PUA ) who is obsessed with breeding. He spends the entire film trying to bang the female of his species. Thinks he’s “alpha” but his entire existence – and motivation – is based on whether or not he can hit that s~~~.

To a “Monster Going His Own Way”…. “alpha” and “beta” are totally irrelevant.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Thank You everyone, I learnt a lot today.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Lord Vats wrote:

I think I’m allowed to overthink. I’ve just got out of the energy capsule.

Maybe I should have said you’re overcomplicating things.

Really, it’s very simple. It all boils down to a basic cost – benefit – risk analysis. Men who disagree with MGTOW are always ignorant of at least one of these factors, which leads them to their false conclusions. Women who disagree with MGTOW simply want their money.

Take marriage, for example. The quintessential MGTOW issue. The cost is high. Women marry up, and you will bear the brunt of any expenses in the marriage. The benefits are minimal. Marriage is all obligations on you with no guarantees of anything in return. You have no rights in a marriage. You are not guaranteed regular sex (or any sex). You are no longer in control of your own wallet. The children are hers, not yours. Not even the two out of three that actually carry your genes. The risk is unacceptable. More than half of all marriages end in divorce. More than four out of five divorces are initiated by women. The most common reason given is “general dissatisfaction”, which is no reason at all. You will lose half your property and more than likely be stuck with child support and alimony payments for years to come. Even the marriages that don’t end in divorce are usually miserable.

So once you know the truth about the real costs, non-existent benefits, and sickening risks of marriage, why would you get married?

Going Your Own Way is not complicated. It’s simply knowing all the facts and taking the only response that makes any sense.

[USMC_315Participant 6]

a banana wrote:

wtf are you on? badkan is right, alpha LITERALLY ONLY means a male who Women deem to be suitable for reproduction. THAT IS ALL edit:i just read on another post that you’re 19, well im 18 and i know at first its easy to get caught up in all the alpha-beta bulls~~~, but i assure you it means nothing, unless of course you define yourself based on how much sexual access women grant you, i suggest you get the idea of alpha and beta out your head as have i.

He’s 19, hormones were just kicking in when he wrote this.

 

To the OP don’t go around cussing just to try and get your point across, it makes us younger guys look ignorant as a whole. Be passionate, don’t be obscene

[USMC_315Participant 6]

If you got the anger like I did a few years ago, get into boxing. Join a gym near you and just beat the f~~~ out of the bag, take lessons, spar, participate in tournaments. Nothing more fun than beating the s~~~ out of some one with out the worry of getting in any kind of trouble. Not only will it let out large amounts of anger, but you’ll get ripped as f~~~ in the process.

 

P.S. do NOT go kill a bunch of women, the manosphere will only be viewed by such actions from then on

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Maybe more passivity will come with age

Who’s passive? MGTOW are ACTIVELY walking away from women. We are ACTIVELY telling women to go f~~~ themselves. Literally. And support themselves and save for their own retirements and so on.

The passive ones are those poor, pathetic schmucks you find sitting like a lump on the couch every night with their bitch wives in front of the television watching “the bachelorette” who are too pussified to demand the remote control that they themselves paid for. Which seems like the seventh circle of hell to me.

Any ideas how to expend the rage without killing women?

If you really want to get back at women, and I mean crush them utterly right to the very core of their being, don’t get mad and definitely don’t get violent. That only tells the self absorbed little twits they still matter to you. Women can handle violence. At the bare minimum it gives them another opportunity to play the victim for prizes. Why would you give a woman that?

No, what you really need to do to destroy them is reject them. Turn your back on them. More than anything else, right down to the most primitive part of their brains, what women fear and dread the most is abandonment. So abandon them in as active and blatant a manner possible. Concentrate all your effort into improving yourself. Get your butt to the gym. Get educated. Get yourself gainfully employed and live well below your means to accumulate wealth. Don’t do it for women, but for yourself. Live well. Soon enough you will find women approaching you. I guarantee it. Hell, you’ll find women introducing other women to you because women hate seeing a man enjoy the fruits of his own labor even if they, themselves can’t enjoy them. When women approach you, lead them on for a bit if you want but eventually look them up and down and tell them plainly they are not worth your time. This rejection will devastate them. You have no idea until you’ve actually done it. Then for bonus points f~~~ her best friend.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

YES YES, HELL YES!

– will look into MMA today, thanks Marine.
– will definitely lead women on, have them make sandwiches and do laundry for me, then f~~~ her best friend! Thanks Sidecar.

I misunderstood apathy for passivity.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

You call yourself an Alpha?

uh, no, I call myself God’s Middle Finger. My friends call me Smitty, others are allowed to call me “Great One”. Peons try to insult me to no effect.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[AkibarangerParticipant 37]

Are you Anthony Burch by any chance?

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