Worried about my dad, any advice?

[ConstantineParticipant 4416]

This story is so pathetically trite, it’s gonna sound like a tabloid headline. Believe me, I wish that was the case. I dreaded the thought of ever having to tell such a tale myself, but here I am. My dad has met a Russian woman online and wants to go overseas to meet her. He’s planning to start a piggy bank and pick up a Russian dictionary.

I have a lot of respect for my dad, but there’s one thing we’ve always disagreed on. My dad doesn’t want to die alone. He still has faith in women and remains hopeful that he’s going to find the right one. He’s prone to looking down his nose at single men – in his eyes, it feels like taking the easy way out. So needless to say, he’s never approved of me being MGTOW and won’t listen when I point to evidence of AWALT. Now sure, he’s a grown man and free to live his own life.

But from the moment he told me about this new candidate, every. Single. Red flag went up. She’s divorced. Single mother. Two kids. In another country. And communicating with Dad online. Yeah, we all know how successful those unions are.

It’s his decision and I can’t control what he does. But he’s still my dad and I can’t help being nervous. Any advice you guys have? Should I try harder to persuade him, or just make sure he remembers my number when it all goes pear-shaped?

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

Ask him for your inheritance now. Not sh1tting.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22520]

I suggest if you care that you start your own fund, a fund for a lawyer for your father. Situations like this can go south very quickly. Foreign lands mean foreign laws which are usually not good for foreign men. And by then your fathers bank accounts will likely be emptied.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3753]

I don’t know. Make sure never to meet her so she can’t include you in the whole scheme of things when it goes bad ?

[Gravel PitParticipant]

why cant he diddle a local woman? why Russia? thats the excessively dumb part.

exotic foreign woman like that are so dangerous because you ignorant of their culture and compromised.

russians dont dick around, he will get one phone called at worst, end up on the street there at best…

hope you accept collect calls from russian jail. LOL

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

Do you have a house? Can he move in with you? Are there any senior centers or groups where he lives for companionship?

[ConstantineParticipant 4416]

Thanks guys.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Ask him for your inheritance now. Not sh1tting.

Lol. I’m not his daughter, he’s more to me than a proprietorship.

Gravel Pit wrote:

why cant he diddle a local woman? why Russia? thats the excessively dumb part.

It is. I asked him that myself and he said he’s fed up with kiwi women. Don’t know why. Kiwi women can be assholes, yeah, but women can be assholes wherever you go. Russian women don’t tend to be much better, especially given the notorious schemes they get up to. He’s been telling me that this one seems very grounded, but that’s the golden rule of their façades – she’ll be stabbing her hooks into him as slowly and gently as she needs to. At the end of the day, why has she been divorced already if she’s so grounded?

FrankOne wrote:

Do you have a house? Can he move in with you? Are there any senior centers or groups where he lives for companionship?

He wouldn’t be seen dead in a senior citizen’s home. He thinks retiring is stupid. He’d much rather stay active and keep working. Sadly, he may have to if he insists on dating someone. But yeah, I’ve told him that he’s welcome to move in to my place if it comes to that. What sucks is that seven years ago, he received nine months under house arrest for tax evasion. It was a huge blow to him financially and took a VERY long time to claw his way back from. I just don’t see why he’d ever want to risk being in that place again.

SpiderHerder wrote:

Make sure never to meet her so she can’t include you in the whole scheme of things when it goes bad ?

Oh, I fully intend to never meet her. My stepbrother is also MGTOW and he’ll be keeping his distance too. We both know she’ll want a piece of us when the time comes.

Faust For Science wrote:

I suggest if you care that you start your own fund, a fund for a lawyer for your father. Situations like this can go south very quickly. Foreign lands mean foreign laws which are usually not good for foreign men. And by then your fathers bank accounts will likely be emptied.

That’s a good idea actually, thanks for the suggestion. I’ve been saving up to self-publish my novels (I still can’t find a company willing to print them the old-school way, so don’t have much choice anymore), but given this development, I can use that money for a different purpose. He may not be thinking straight right now, but he’s still important to me. It’s just a shame that if this woman does empty his bank account, that’s how far it needs to go for him to get the message that they can’t be trusted.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

Constantine wrote:

Thanks guys.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Ask him for your inheritance now. Not sh1tting.

Lol. I’m not his daughter, he’s more to me than a proprietorship.

Gravel Pit wrote:

why cant he diddle a local woman? why Russia? thats the excessively dumb part.

It is. I asked him that myself and he said he’s fed up with kiwi women. Don’t know why. Kiwi women can be assholes, yeah, but women can be assholes wherever you go. Russian women don’t tend to be much better, especially given the notorious schemes they get up to. He’s been telling me that this one seems very grounded, but that’s the golden rule of their façades – she’ll be stabbing her hooks into him as slowly and gently as she needs to. At the end of the day, why has she been divorced already if she’s so grounded?

FrankOne wrote:

Do you have a house? Can he move in with you? Are there any senior centers or groups where he lives for companionship?

He wouldn’t be seen dead in a senior citizen’s home. He thinks retiring is stupid. He’d much rather stay active and keep working. Sadly, he may have to if he insists on dating someone. But yeah, I’ve told him that he’s welcome to move in to my place if it comes to that. What sucks is that seven years ago, he received nine months under house arrest for tax evasion. It was a huge blow to him financially and took a VERY long time to claw his way back from. I just don’t see why he’d ever want to risk being in that place again.

SpiderHerder wrote:

Make sure never to meet her so she can’t include you in the whole scheme of things when it goes bad ?

Oh, I fully intend to never meet her. My stepbrother is also MGTOW and he’ll be keeping his distance too. We both know she’ll want a piece of us when the time comes.

Faust For Science wrote:

I suggest if you care that you start your own fund, a fund for a lawyer for your father. Situations like this can go south very quickly. Foreign lands mean foreign laws which are usually not good for foreign men. And by then your fathers bank accounts will likely be emptied.

That’s a good idea actually, thanks for the suggestion. I’ve been saving up to self-publish my novels (I still can’t find a company willing to print them the old-school way, so don’t have much choice anymore), but given this development, I can use that money for a different purpose. He may not be thinking straight right now, but he’s still important to me. It’s just a shame that if this woman does empty his bank account, that’s how far it needs to go for him to get the message that they can’t be trusted.

I wasn’t trying to joke. And i wasn’t implying you needed it. And since when is inheritance only for women? You know damn well for most of history first born sons got it all or the lions share of it, to preserve the stability of the family after the patriarch dies. Get that stupid incorrect idea out of your head, a man works all his life and if he has anything left most of the time he wants to pass what hes earned and amassed to his children, male and female.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

It is more fitting you get some inheritance rather than some sally come lately little russian fuk stick taking everything for banging him a few times. You devalue yourself and your dad’s lifetime of work, its not about your need, inheritance isnt welfare for fuks sake.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I know the cure to make him come to his senses. Make him watch the Russian film Leviathan. His hard on for Soviet Gash will droop real fast….

I like the idea of Russia, the culture, the history, the people… but Im not Russian and that is why I stay the fvck out of Russia.

lol

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Constantine wrote:

Thanks guys.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Ask him for your inheritance now. Not sh1tting.

Lol. I’m not his daughter, he’s more to me than a proprietorship.

That’s not the point. Secret Agent is absolutely right. Get your inheritance NOW. She is going to take him for everything, and when he does, if he learns his lesson, at least you can have that inheritance as a cushion for him when he’s broke and down. If you don’t get it not, it’s the Russian woman’s. Get that inheritance now.

Also, he may lose more than his money. He could lose his liver or kidneys. Do some research online and SHOW him. It’s a DARK DARK world over there. It happens here, but over there… it’s beyond imaginable.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Father’s agony as Russian ex-partner abducts their autistic son

[Sky-OParticipant 18933]

All assets in an irrevocable trust right now. Average cost to have an attorney do it all $1,800 – $2,500 depending on what state you live in.

With you as the beneficiary.

[ConstantineParticipant 4416]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

And since when is inheritance only for women? You know damn well for most of history first born sons got it all or the lions share of it, to preserve the stability of the family after the patriarch dies. Get that stupid incorrect idea out of your head, a man works all his life and if he has anything left most of the time he wants to pass what hes earned and amassed to his children, male and female.

You’ve misunderstood me man, I wasn’t implying that only women get inheritances. I was referencing the fact that women tend to be the ones whom an inheritance is important to. Just a jab at women’s expense. It’s an awkward time, was trying to lighten the mood.

Sandals wrote:

That’s not the point. Secret Agent is absolutely right. Get your inheritance NOW. She is going to take him for everything, and when he does, if he learns his lesson, at least you can have that inheritance as a cushion for him when he’s broke and down. If you don’t get it not, it’s the Russian woman’s. Get that inheritance now.

I get what you guys are saying, but I won’t be getting an inheritance. He doesn’t have any money to leave me. He remained broke for years after his arrest (I helped him out as much as I could, but have my own bills to pay). Doesn’t even own his house, the bank does. Things are looking up at the moment, because he recently got a job in a garden centre, and makes extra cash selling stereo parts online. Before now, his pension covered basic living expenses, along with the pennies in the jar he was putting towards Europe. But he’s told me that in the event of his passing, his estate, such as it is, will be pretty barren. He has three kids to split it between. I’m his only biological one, and at the very most I would get his car. Until then, his newfound employment will also put a tax deduction on his annuity. Should he pass away before these matters are cleared, his flat would stay in the bank’s hands.

If you’re wondering why this woman is contacting him in the first place when he doesn’t have much to provide, I imagine that’s something he won’t be telling her at the moment. He probably thinks that by the time he has enough money to go to Russia, his new job will have improved his situation. For a long time, I didn’t take his Russian dreams seriously because he wasn’t living the kind of life that would materialise them. Now that he’s got a job again, the goal is not out of reach, and that’s what’s freaking me out.

Sky-O wrote:

All assets in an irrevocable trust right now. Average cost to have an attorney do it all $1,800 – $2,500 depending on what state you live in.With you as the beneficiary.

There’s something to think about. I figure that’s my best option at the moment.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

Sky-O wrote:

All assets in an irrevocable trust right now. Average cost to have an attorney do it all $1,800 – $2,500 depending on what state you live in.
With you as the beneficiary.

She can get around that. She will just KILL him after they marry. Everyone knows the SPOUSE is first in line with the usual 50% division of assets. She will CONTEST the will/trust and at least tie it up in court.

It would be best for him to not even get involved or marry her.

Sit down and watch that show wherethe guy takes on the Russian bride from Hell. (I forget the name of it,… don’t watch much TV.)
Then watch BATMAN/Dark knight Rises…..Tell him he’s Bruce Wayne.
(2 women in his life. One steals some of the family jewels-real ones,lol. The other wants to destroy the city he has lived in his whole life)

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

I am assuming you and your step bro don’t have any assets co-mingled with your dad?

She will be into his books and looking for assets to seize if she gets her claws into him.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2096]

So sorry to hear that. These Russian broads have much better game then their Western counterparts – totally predat ory. Get him out any way you can. Wish I had better advice for you.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[WallyParticipant]

Faust For Science wrote:

I suggest if you care that you start your own fund, a fund for a lawyer for your father. Situations like this can go south very quickly. Foreign lands mean foreign laws which are usually not good for foreign men. And by then your fathers bank accounts will likely be emptied.

Sorry about your dad- This is really all you can do, your father is wanting to jump off a building, have as soft spot for him to land, will still be painful.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Here is what you can do. If he owns a house Property? Make sure he puts in YOUR NAME. His items that he owns? Businesses etc? Make sure it is not in HIS NAME.

He also needs to set aside the money he has in a trust. That way, he only loses what he has WITH her that he worked for while he was with her if the divorce comes.

If you have control of the assets, that way, he is safe. Even have him pay you rent for the house he owns, and keep it in an account for him.

THat way, when she gets her citizenship and she wants to pop smoke and eject for a better deal and monkey branch? The losses are limited. The main item is always going to be property. If he does not own it? THEN there goes the biggest loss he could have.

There are ways to protect things. You just need to know how. It will help also control her Hypergamy. Something that is always on the table. Also, if HE decided that it does not work out, the losses are minimal. You have to be just like women are and their legal system that benefits them. So make those roads now.

If he wants to do it? Let him. But do it after you help secure his assets. And make sure to have some kind of legal documents that make sure that their is like a solid time limit before things like if your dad wants to fund some s~~~, it take a month or two to withdraw funds from investments you make for him so he can retire safely.

It’s all about planing. And like it or not, we all have to. You do this, and the marriage goes sour? The damages will be like peanuts compared to what could have happened.

Most of the time, they are only coming over so they can bring over their family etc. With that being known? When she does try to f~~~ him over? You got it all planned out and are ready for it. That is the ticket.

Just make sure your DAD knows full well that it really is what it is. An exchange. To him? It may be a good deal for the time it lasts. But when it ends? He will be thank his lucky stars that after she pulls any s~~~? Its going to be easy compared to what could have happened.

GOod luck bro.

Also, you never know. Sometimes these things work out. But… ALMOST ALWAYS.. Its not about love or even a better life. Its all about her looking out not for her husbank.. But her own family or people where she is from.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[MonkParticipant 16975]

There’s no fool like an old fool.

Unless you can talk him into doing what iMickey suggests, she is going to take him for everything he has and there is nothing you can do about it. You’ve done what you can, now step back and look to yourself.

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