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PeterNolan 2 years, 5 months ago.
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If you move to the Philippines, keep to yourself. Apparently they have a law there, because their country is so poor, that if you help someone who is sick, or in need of medical help, you are liable for their medical bills. Which is why, as I’ve been told, people will walk right by a sick person.
Interesting. It is that way in China; hence the video of a toddler being run over and no one stops to help.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
If you plan on leaving with $70k in gold.
Leave by private boat. Link up with someone that is leaving on a sailboat to another country.
Ditch them at the first port. Continue traveling on land.
And hire private pilots with single engine Cessna’s to get to further on your route.
Switching at every stop.
Then get as far south into South America as you can. Bolivia or Argentina are reasonable safe and you can blend in with tourists and ex patriots from European countries.
If you use a safe deposit box means of storing. Keep 1/7th of the money on you and split the remaining 6/7ths in three different locations.
Stay away from women.
Learn the language of where you are going first (Rosetta Stone)
Leaving by private boat will also ensure that there is no record of you leaving from an airport with passport use.
During the Cold War, there was a high-ranking Soviet individual who smuggled a fortune out of the USSR by converting his wealth into platinum, and then having that platinum made into dozens and dozens of coat hangers.
Coat hangers are pretty non-suspicious, especially if you have a lot of shirts.
"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul
Can you not wire money to a bank offshore that will be safe? Cayman Islands, or ?? Then just take a plane to Vietnam and be done with it.
Are there some bankers here that can chime in?
OP -it has to be in a country with no extradition treaty, no tax treaty, and no FACA agreement with the US. Brazil isn’t going to cut it.
Try Vietnam instead.
You’re overreacting. She’s just procrastinating. People procrastinate the most about emotionally-charged actions. She’s also way too busy getting f~~~ed to pay attention to some depressing paperwork.
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
You’re overreacting. She’s just procrastinating. People procrastinate the most about emotionally-charged actions. She’s also way too busy getting f~~~ed to pay attention to some depressing paperwork.
I hope that you are right.
Today, I got back from my friend (who sent the papers restricted certified mail to serve them) the green receipt and had him sign the form. I hand that in on my Friday off this week, and that should be my last paperwork until the divorce hearing, whenever that is.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I noticed you didn’t mention anything regarding your son or daughter in this contingency plan of yours. What happens to them when you’re running away?
Regarding the CC companies, you’re stealing from them if you have no intention of ever paying them back. Defaulting on your house is a different matter since there is collateral, but really…this is your plan?
I can’t imagine that you have no recourse if she doesn’t go through with your mediated agreement. I imagine you can restrict where she choses to live to the local area if you want to. She can’t just chose to move the kids to another state without your agreement.
Ok. Then do it.
I noticed you didn’t mention anything regarding your son or daughter in this contingency plan of yours. What happens to them when you’re running away?
Regarding the CC companies, you’re stealing from them if you have no intention of ever paying them back. Defaulting on your house is a different matter since there is collateral, but really…this is your plan?
I can’t imagine that you have no recourse if she doesn’t go through with your mediated agreement. I imagine you can restrict where she choses to live to the local area if you want to. She can’t just chose to move the kids to another state without your agreement.
1) In our mediated separation agreement, she has custody of our daughter out of state where she lives currently. I have custody of our 14-yr old son although he is visiting out of state for her portion of the summer now. My oldest son from a previous marriage is in college now and quite red-pilled so he should be fine.
2) The banks are “too big to fail”. F~~~ them and the system they are a part of. If playing by the system’s rules results in me being f~~~ed, I’m going to flip over the f~~~ing board game.I should know within the month if she intends to betray our original agreement, which means I would simply skip the September mortgage payment. I expect it might take up to 6 months for foreclosure to occur, which would give me time to EBay every single thing I own between September and February. I’d use that money plus not making mortgage payments to pay for any additional funds my ex would insist on.
Then buy a few pounds of gold, melt them into 12-gauge wire for coat-hangers, spray paint them silver, and leave the country with only a handful of stuff.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
1) In our mediated separation agreement, she has custody of our daughter out of state where she lives currently. I have custody of our 14-yr old son although he is visiting out of state for her portion of the summer now. My oldest son from a previous marriage is in college now and quite red-pilled so he should be fine.
I don’t see how this means that your kids will be fine if you’re out of the country hiding from the US government.
What’s in your mediation agreement is irrelevant if it’s not agreed upon. I would not be surprised if the court orders your wife to return your daughter back to the county you live in. At the very least, there would likely need to be some concession for travel expenses on her part.
Honestly, I don’t think you’re agreement sounds like that good of a deal. Your ex might be doing you a favor by not signing it. But, you are in a different state I’m sure, and perhaps the rules are different.
2) The banks are “too big to fail”. F~~~ them and the system they are a part of. If playing by the system’s rules results in me being f~~~ed, I’m going to flip over the f~~~ing board game.
You’re not flipping the board, you’re stealing. You can’t justify your actions by claiming the company you’re steal from is worse than you. Besides, you aren’t doing this to prove a point or even because the banks did you wrong personally. You’re just stealing because you believe you can get away with it.
Ok. Then do it.
1) In our mediated separation agreement, she has custody of our daughter out of state where she lives currently. I have custody of our 14-yr old son although he is visiting out of state for her portion of the summer now. My oldest son from a previous marriage is in college now and quite red-pilled so he should be fine.
I don’t see how this means that your kids will be fine if you’re out of the country hiding from the US government.
What’s in your mediation agreement is irrelevant if it’s not agreed upon. I would not be surprised if the court orders your wife to return your daughter back to the county you live in. At the very least, there would likely need to be some concession for travel expenses on her part.
Honestly, I don’t think you’re agreement sounds like that good of a deal. Your ex might be doing you a favor by not signing it. But, you are in a different state I’m sure, and perhaps the rules are different.
2) The banks are “too big to fail”. F~~~ them and the system they are a part of. If playing by the system’s rules results in me being f~~~ed, I’m going to flip over the f~~~ing board game.
You’re not flipping the board, you’re stealing. You can’t justify your actions by claiming the company you’re steal from is worse than you. Besides, you aren’t doing this to prove a point or even because the banks did you wrong personally. You’re just stealing because you believe you can get away with it.
Governments do the same every day because they can get away with it. But they don’t call it stealing, its called taxes. Then they use that stolen money to empower courts and police to imprison people for victimless crimes and to murder people overseas.
I won’t have enough money to do all that, so I’ll do something less constructive like laying on a tropical beach sipping c~~~tails while the world goes to f~~~. Let all of those powerful morons worry about how they are going to “justify” murdering this group or that, I will have zero f~~~s given.
Corporations also do it every day by getting government (really taxpayer) money, but they don’t call it stealing either, it is Crony Capitalism. They can just write off my s~~~ as “bad debt expense.”
The world is turning to s~~~ rapidly and probably doesn’t have much time left. Time is rapidly approaching to check out of the system. I might not even survive that long if I have to implement my plan. A lot of things can go wrong. But at least I won’t die a slave.
If things go to s~~~ here I have this plan or the OTHER plan (consume the taproot of one of the water hemlock plants on my property).
Hemlock beats Thomas Ball’s self-immolation at the courthouse, and I don’t have the resources to do what Hans Mills did fleeing Canada for the Philippines (I talked to him via email in 2014). Justifications are irrelevant; there is only what I CAN do.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Governments do the same every day because they can get away with it. But they don’t call it stealing, its called taxes. Then they use that stolen money to empower courts and police to imprison people for victimless crimes and to murder people overseas.
I won’t have enough money to do all that, so I’ll do something less constructive like laying on a tropical beach sipping c~~~tails while the world goes to f~~~. Let all of those powerful morons worry about how they are going to “justify” murdering this group or that, I will have zero f~~~s given.
Corporations also do it every day by getting government (really taxpayer) money, but they don’t call it stealing either, it is Crony Capitalism. They can just write off my s~~~ as “bad debt expense.”
The world is turning to s~~~ rapidly and probably doesn’t have much time left. Time is rapidly approaching to check out of the system. I might not even survive that long if I have to implement my plan. A lot of things can go wrong. But at least I won’t die a slave.Still going with the argument that other people’s bad behavior justifies your own.
If things go to s~~~ here I have this plan or the OTHER plan (consume the taproot of one of the water hemlock plants on my property).
Hemlock beats Thomas Ball’s self-immolation at the courthouse, and I don’t have the resources to do what Hans Mills did fleeing Canada for the Philippines (I talked to him via email in 2014). Justifications are irrelevant; there is only what I CAN do.So you’re contemplating suicide as a plan b? Really? Your life is that bad? Were you not the one who is bragging about 2 GFs, how you had it all figured out a while back? Have you no concern for how this will effect your children whatsoever?
Again, I don’t think you’ve come close to exhausting all possibilities if your ex doesn’t go forth on the meditation.
Ok. Then do it.
So you’re contemplating suicide as a plan b? Really? Your life is that bad? Were you not the one who is bragging about 2 GFs, how you had it all figured out a while back? Have you no concern for how this will effect your children whatsoever?
Again, I don’t think you’ve come close to exhausting all possibilities if your ex doesn’t go forth on the meditation.
Suicide is always a Plan B. Being alive is not a requirement for anything. Life is just a f~~~ing Pac Man game and eventually the ghosts will eat you anyway. Ditching everything in the US and wiping the slate clean is a good alternative to Plan B.
There is no justification for anything, no good or evil. I don’t believe in God or Satan. I’m an atheist and existential nihilist. Rules are a bunch of made up s~~~ created by a bunch of assholes who don’t give a s~~~ about me, and I will do whatever I feel is necessary, within my range of what actions I can tolerate doing.
I was not bragging about having 2 girlfriends. I was demonstrating that I still have enough residual stupidity regarding women to actually have 2 girlfriends. I have since corrected that oversight by breaking up with one. I didn’t think I had it figured out because I know it doesn’t take much to turn everything to s~~~. Sometimes just a female.
If I have left everything behind, it means my ex has the two younger kids 2000 miles away, that I will hardly ever see anyway, and my red-pilled 19-year old oldest son here will know why I have done what I had to do and what he has to do to avoid my fate (which is avoiding females and marriage).
Even if the ex doesn’t reneg and contest everything, I already assume that my daughter will be a lost cause, since there is very little I can do to counter the ex’s influence. I’m sad to say, she’ll just become one more man-destroying female out there. She’s only 8 and already gives people the finger if they do something she doesn’t like.
My red-pilled 19-yr old son will be fine. I’ve taught him everything already that is worth knowing that I know, including how to succeed in his field.
If things go to hell, my parting words to the 14-yr old son will be that if he wants to avoid my choice between slavery and running away from slavery, he needs to avoid slavers (women).
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
If you plan on leaving with $70k in gold.
Leave by private boat. Link up with someone that is leaving on a sailboat to another country.
Ditch them at the first port. Continue traveling on land.
And hire private pilots with single engine Cessna’s to get to further on your route.
Switching at every stop.
Then get as far south into South America as you can. Bolivia or Argentina are reasonable safe and you can blend in with tourists and ex patriots from European countries.
If you use a safe deposit box means of storing. Keep 1/7th of the money on you and split the remaining 6/7ths in three different locations.Stay away from women.
Learn the language of where you are going first (Rosetta Stone)
Leaving by private boat will also ensure that there is no record of you leaving from an airport with passport use.This was going to be my similar advice before Sky O posted…
Learn the language where ever you go, start now. Anywhere in South America, I would learn Spanish and Portuguese. (Brazil). And I would avoid Brazil..You can almost drive across freely with minimal interrogation at the border, or pay a small fee to a any of the legal aliens and green card holders in San Diego, Tecote or Calexico, that cross daily.
I would put the Plan B option on the way back burner for now. Dude you have SO many options available to you to, some you aren’t even aware of yet.
Most importantly be open and flexible to opportunities that come your way. Knowledge of your surroundings and local customs will help you fit in…Take small short trips to some of the places you may go, ( if possible), Or to the point of entry/exit you may take. Have options ahead of time..
Last note or reminder…
Never assume your ex is anything less than aware of what she is doing, or has the help of someone that will see her get what you fear most. Plan as if she is ahead of you or knows how to work things in her favor.Sounds like you’ve done a s~~~ load of research already,
Don’t stop..Good luck Brother!
Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!Ranger One,
I left the west in 2015. The main issue is to get a visa to live where you want to go to.I can help organise that in Fiji which is not a bad place to live.
Mens Rights Fiji has good connections with the Fiji government.
The issue is not to store up gold and move it…the issue is to have an income that is mobile.
This is why I am in to internet marketing.
I am going to build up an internet marketing team where I can sell no matter where I am.
I am also building a new Business Intelligence Business where I live now.
My recommendation to MGTOWs now is to leave the west because bad times are coming.
I did all I could to head off what is coming and I didn’t get the help I asked for…so I left.
No one can stop what is coming to the west now…and that will include significant civil unrest.
I have also worked for 8 years on the World Passport but men didn’t help me with that either so it is not widely accepted yet.
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