Women's Dating Contradictions

[JasonParticipant 282]

So, I’ve spent a fair amount of time on various online dating sites and done some “rl” dating, and I’ve run across a number of “dating contradictions”, or what women say they they want, versus what they actually go for. I know, I know, many of you have already discussed this subject to death, but I figured I’d rather open up a new thread than thread-necro, you know?

Anyway… One of my “favorite” dating contradictions comes with the cliché line “I just want to feel protected”. You know the one; the woman says she wants a man that she can feel safe with, someone who she feels can (and will) protect her in times of danger. Right, so far so good, right? Well, allow me to offer up a *recurring* experience I’ve had with this over the years…

A woman says, either outright in her dating profile or once you start talking to her for a bit (online or offline), that she wants to have a man she feels can and will protect her. Right. She then talks/flirts with a number of men at the same time (usually not revealing such until at the very last moment). Right. So, let us see some typical examples of these men:

First off, you’ve got a number of stereotypical simps and maybe one or two outright “white knights/SJWs”; nothing out of the ordinary, and not really contenders for her attention. Then, you’ve got two other men:

Man #1: Tall, buff, with mechanically inefficient muscles gained from months or years of using gym machines but no free weights, with zero combat training or experience who wouldn’t last five seconds in a fight against someone who has even the barest minimum of unarmed combat training, and has a known criminal record including stuff like theft and domestic violence.

Man #2: Somewhat short, with lean musculature gained from over two decades of armed and unarmed combat training and experience who can quite literally kill with one finger if he so chooses, no criminal record, and has a reputation for high levels of self-discipline and even higher morals, and has helped out local police on occasion by breaking up fights and keeping things under control, which several of the local officers can vouch for if asked. And yes, Man #2 makes the woman aware of most or all of these facts over the course of their interactions.

The woman *always* goes for Man #1. I’ve had this happen to me a number of times, and it annoys me every time. Obviously, I’ve always felt irritated over this and thought to myself that (those particular?) women must suffer from some form of mental disorder. However, this and other dating contradictions just keep cropping up more often than not. Do women seriously not know what they want? Do they really have such low levels of self-awareness? Or does it result from cognitive dissonance, itself stemming from what society (read: feminism and/or female friends) says they *should* want versus their own biological urges? Or something else?

For many years, I tried telling myself that I just had recurring bad luck, that I somehow ended up meeting and talking to women who represented the outliers of human statistics. Gradually, I came to realise more and more that no, they didn’t represent the outliers; whatever the reason, these women represented the dead-center average. I’ve had periods of months or over a year when I’ve stayed the hell away from dating and anything and everything to do with it, but I’ve always drifted back into it, thinking to myself that “maybe this time things will turn out different”, and “men should date, shouldn’t they?”. Not so. Then, just recently, I ran across a link to this site when perusing a blog about gender differences. I’ve had hunches and suspicions for many, many years – and outright advice from my father, an unknowing MGHOW – but I finally feel like I’ve started to understand, largely thanks to this and other sites I’ve found since I started actively searching out MGTOW sources. Thank you.

Please, feel free to share your own experiences of women’s dating contradictions.

Oh, and I just registered on the site. You can call me Jason. Nice to meet you all!

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Women wanted equality yet wanted to feel protected? Guess what woman you can risk your own life, I’m not going to risk my life for you when you will very unlikely to give a s~~~ about me.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[cicer0Participant 46]

Jason wrote:

A woman says, either outright in her dating profile or once you start talking to her for a bit (online or offline), that she wants to have a man she feels can and will protect her. Right. She then talks/flirts with a number of men at the same time (usually not revealing such until at the very last moment). Right. So, let us see some typical examples of these men:

Well, theres your first problem. The profile itself. It is basically fan-fiction. She wrote it to attract “fans”. It doesn’t bare any similarity to what she actually wants; even she doesn’t know that.

Jason wrote:

Obviously, I’ve always felt irritated over this and thought to myself that (those particular?) women must suffer from some form of mental disorder.

They do; it’s called being female.

I learned a lot from Orwell and Nineteen Eighty Four. Yes, he was writing about a dystopian future however, his work can also translate to gender relations. Essentially; he likes to present two extremes for any given situation.

<b>If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.</b>

In context, it is the control mechanism for the party. In MGTOW however; it could rightly be applied to feminism.

Another gem, that I believe sums up the dichotmy that you speak of would be:

<b>Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.</b>

Again, this is another specialty that women seem to embrace better than anyone else. When a guy makes a profile, he is trying to show what he has to offer. When a woman makes one, she is demanding what she expects…. or not, depending on whatever the hell she feels like at the time of writing it.

Lastly though, I would encourage you to always remember this;

<b>If you are a man, Winston, you are the last man.</b>

Be always the last man.

Welcome to the forum mate. Enjoy your time here. You are amoung friends.

[Anonymous 12]

What a woman wants as I have heard it said and written by many women.

I want a man who is strong and tough but is gentle and vegetarian, a man who can survive in the wild but doesn’t kill anything including vegetation. A man who is reliable and steady yet fun and can make me laugh. I want a romantic man who will take me places and also help with the housework and knows how to cook. An intelligent and well educated man, highly motivated and ambitious but still down to Earth.

A man who desires me and wants to f~~~ me all the time but only when I want to but still pursues me despite my rejections. I want a man who will love and cherish me and marry me even though I think there still might be something better out there.

And he has to be taller than me and good looking too but not like really vain good looking just handsome and well dressed but doesn’t spend all his time in front of the mirror.

A man who is confident and sure about himself but not overpowering or dominating, a man who will let me have my way but pull me into line when I need it, a man who is creative and handy but also good with computers and knows how to style hair.

Get the picture?

 

 

[kizellParticipant 368]

Jason I agree with you on all counts but what on earth are you doing on dating sites.  If you want to meet up with women, why would you cut yourself so short as to try and score with the very worst type of whore.

[JasonParticipant 282]

@CrazyCanuck: I feel that way in theory, but in practice I still suffer from the overpowering urge to protect women (well, people in general, really, but women in particular) so in a life-or-death situation I’d probably jump in anyway without thinking… I’ll have to try and rid myself off that knee-jerk reaction eventually, I guess.

@cicer0: Yeah, the more I read around here, the more I realise I really should reread 1984. Think I’ll pop over to a library and borrow it ASAP. And thanks for the welcome 🙂

@Morlock: Clearly, the term “mutual exclusivity” doesn’t exist in the minds of women, huh? That and they want the man to have freakin’ telepathic abilities, to boot…

@kizell: Oh, I don’t currently actively pursue women, online or offline. I have, however, done so quite a bit in the past, as evidenced by my opening post.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I will protect family members that’s it. I live in Toronto and nobody gives a s~~~ about me. I was at a subway station asking people call the police because she black dude wanted to fight me. I could have beaten his ass however I would get charged because I could walk away. Noway I’m helping anyone f~~~ that s~~~.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Real talk, everything about a woman is contradiction, everything, down to her personality, appearance, likes, dislikes..etc.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[kizellParticipant 368]

My apologies Jason.  I made a poor assumption.

On a side note, and to a point I alluded to a few days ago, online dating sites are places where 5%-10% of the guys get 90% of the ass.  STD’s waiting to happen

[BeerParticipant 11832]

cicer0 wrote:

Again, this is another specialty that women seem to embrace better than anyone else. When a guy makes a profile, he is trying to show what he has to offer. When a woman makes one, she is demanding what she expects…. or not, depending on whatever the hell she feels like at the time of writing it. Lastly though, I would encourage you to always remember this;

I never looked at it from this angle…but you hit the nail on the head here.   I dabbled on a dating site in the past before realizing what a giant waste of time it was.  I guess I kind of looked at a profile like buying/selling a car.  If you post an ad for a car what do you include…obvious all the relevant information about the car you have.  So basically…my profile consisted of relevant information about me…my education, career, dog, hobbies, future goals, etc…kinda like if your looking for a car you want to know its year, make, model, accident history, how many owners its had, maintenance records, etc.

Now you look at a lot of women’s profiles, and a lot of them have very little information about themselves, and a lot of information about what they are looking for.  Its like trying to sell your current car by fantasizing about your dream car.  Wtf?  If I was browsing car ads, every time I find a car that gives practically no information about it, I automatically assume they are hiding something and its not worth researching into it.  If it was a rebuilt car, a flood car, a car that has seen several accidents, etc, they’d have just posted some history of that particular car.  Yet the average woman’s dating profile…does exactly this, and they get guys chasing after them.

I will say though, that when I was trying out online dating, the one type of woman I would refuse to have any contact with at all were the ones that had nothing in their profile.  Some women would type like “I have to type 120 characters jaldskfjalsfjlasfjalsfjlasfjlsadjfldfjsad”  F~~~ those bitches…if they can’t even take 2 minutes to type something as simple as “Hi, my name is XXXXXXXX, I have a dog named Buddy, and I graduated from XXXXXXXXXX college 3 years ago and have been working in the finance industry since,” they are literally not worth 2 seconds of your time.  Especially considering the ones that do this seem to almost always be the ones that upload a dozen slutty selfies.  That should tell you a lot about what they have to offer you in a relationship…nothing but some well used V.

[RoyDalParticipant]

ILiveAgain’s video says it all for me.

I would add: Social media is filled up with nut jobs. This is scientifically proven. Stay off social media, that is if you want to avoid crazy ladies.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[JasonParticipant 282]

@Lord Vader: Sadly, I must agree with you. I wish I didn’t, but I can’t deny reality (unlike most women…)

@kizell: No worries, dude.

Beer wrote:

If I was browsing car ads, every time I find a car that gives practically no information about it, I automatically assume they are hiding something and its not worth researching into it.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[Anonymous 12]

@jason – For sure, women want it all and want it all in the same person.

At least if a man wants a girl next door cookie cutter type he goes for that and accepts she may not have the stripper body, if he wants the stripper type he goes for that and doesn’t worry about the home making skills. He doesn’t expect contradicting qualities in the same woman.

[JasonParticipant 282]

Anonymous wrote:

He doesn’t expect contradicting qualities in the same woman.

Well said.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[Single SpearParticipant 19]

The last woman I was with, which was over two years ago said she wanted me to fight for her love, I said, I wish you all the luck there is Good Bye

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I sincerely apologize for posting this video because it starts out by asking “what do women want” and we know the answer to that already: “who cares”. Mystery Solved. But as childish and ridiculous the contradictions he lists are….. the audience serves as confirmation that everyone knows it.

Single Spear wrote:

The last woman I was with, which was over two years ago said she wanted me to fight for her love, I said, I wish you all the luck there is Good Bye

That’s awesome.

An EX once said to me: “I want a man who’s going to make me number one in his life”. I had to explain to a grown, 25 year old female…. that gazing into her eyes all day does not put food on the table or pay the rent. She looked at me like I treated her badly. And then I moved to another city in another country.

Last week, I was shuttled to pick up my car from service. There was a 23 year old newly married guy in the car (who he picked up first) already talking to the driver. I just got in and listened to their conversation. It was about EXACTLY this. He was 23 , working his ass off and she was complaining “he didn’t spend enough time with her”…. but wanted to go out for dinner 3 times a week. The driver was totally understanding it, and I just sat in the back smiling the whole way there listening to them bitch about their girlfriends and wives s~~~ty attitudes and crazy entitlements. BOTH of them. Two guys I didn’t even know who happen to be in the same car, have EXACTLY the same problems.

I so badly wanted to say “mgtow.com”.

Finally, the younger one turned around and apologized for using profanities.
I encouraged him to please continue. It was music to my ears.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Jason wrote:

One of my “favorite” dating contradictions comes with the cliché line “I just want to feel protected”.

No matter what they say, CASHOLA $$$$$$ is their most important factor,

A contradiction would be for them to pretend that the any of the other factors actually matter, CASH $$$ is king with western woman, they will overlook any factor if enough cash is present, and conveniently it works the same with prostitutes, strange coincidence if you ask me.

I had a friend who was 5 foot 3, 140lbs, looked like Splinter from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, not kidding, he had a bit of game, point being – girls would show zero interest in him UNTIL they found out that he had inherited several million, then they couldn’t jump into bed with him fast enough. This scenario played out over and over and we all laughed.

Great videos KeyMaster and Iliveagain!

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[JasonParticipant 282]

@keymaster: That video perfectly illustrates the problem of women’s ignorance of mutual exclusivity. Thank you for posting it.

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[hourglass44Participant 5]

So, I just found out that a girl I was seeing was simultaneously seeing at least 3 other guys (over a 8 month period of time).  There were some red flags, like she was VERY hard to get a date with (she was “busy” and had a lot of “family commitments”), and she would cancel our plans from time to time for “birthday parties” and other BS excuses.  I let her know that I liked her, we went out several times and eventually got physical.  During those first few months, our dates were more frequent.  I let her know I wanted to see her exclusively, and she reassured me she “only talks to one guy at a time.”  She also told me she had only dated me in the past year.

Once, she sent me a text on a Thursday night, saying “wear your blue vest tomorrow night!”  Now, she and I didn’t have any plans for that Friday.  I texted back and asked her if she was a bad girl or something, and she reassured me that the text was for a girlfriend of hers, but I don’t believe that.

Little by little, she drifted away.  I recently found out through mutual friends about some other guys she was dating at the exact same time we were.  I am disgusted and feel incredibly stupid and embarrassed.  I just can’t believe what a lying whore this girl was.  She had such a sweet personality and innocent face.  I never expected her to be like that.

So basically I am just venting.  I feel completely alone, and I feel like life is brutal and you cannot trust any girl anywhere.  This was a early-twenties, church-going girl, by the way.  She had no outward signs of being a lying slut.

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