Women peak at 18, men at 50

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Stealth wrote:

What do you guys think, does a man’s smv peak at 36 or 50?

I think we are looking at two different distinct milestones.

36yo = women go full baby rabies

50yo = women don’t want to die alone

In both cases, also having a fat wallet give you a massive “power up” for sure. But in some ways the 50 peak is better, because the woman is not trying to bamboozle you into having a baby.

Sovereignty above all else.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

36yo = women go full baby rabies

50yo = women don’t want to die alone

In both cases, also having a fat wallet give you a massive “power up” for sure. But in some ways the 50 peak is better, because the woman is not trying to bamboozle you into having a baby.

My standard line now when someone asks me why I’m not dating:

Because I don’t want to be a retirement plan for some woman that’s made 30 years of s~~~ty financial decisions.

That gets a laugh from a guy and shuts a woman up.

Order the good wine

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Stealth wrote:

When my female peers at 25 were at their physical and mental peak and were unavailable to me because I was married, I learned to live without them. Now, at 36 and divorce-raped, I basically have my pick but am uninterested.

I have been mostly invisible to women my entire life. I hope to remain invisible. I don’t want my pick. They’re all vile.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[GrumpyParticipant]

Meh
I dont worry about my “SMV” or any study about my perceived “SMV” as adjudged by others, because I am not in or on the market. Most women these days are remarkably unattractive once all the “blemishes” come to light. Once I do a quick once over on their (actual physically attractive women) physical appearance, it takes maybe 10 minutes max to establish my interest level to practically nil due to all the BS/Drama the carry with them like an aura of doom/miserableness.
Once they understand I have zero interest in becoming an ATM or retirement package for them, my value to them is also nil, so it’s a win/win for me.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

G.O.A.T wrote:

In the United States of America,

There’s nothing more undervalued then a young, broke male.

There’s nothing more overvalued then a young, beautiful female.

Not just in USA, but everywhere.

I was young, no money yet, and I was completely ignored by all girls.
Later, I was only “good enough” for a social reject girl.
Later, with some PUA knowledge, I was “good enough” for some fat girls who turned out to be bitchy as time passed, sex went down, emotional blackmail and relations~~~ bulls~~~ went up. (some self-improvement stuff helped lot more on career than relations~~~s issues)

Then, I realized, that no matter what I do, I will never ever be “good enough” for any hotties. I’m not ugly, but I’m not prince charming with big blah-blah and confidence. I’m just a silent normal guy. Better concentrate on stuff that actually brings good results.

And, thinking more, I realized, I don’t want to be the “human resource” of a girl, to pay off her life demands, and to get bitching in exchange. I never saw any relationships that were good. I began to ask questions about the hidden reality of relationships. And then discovered Mgtow.

Keymaster wrote:

So, at 32, I’m supposed to have comparable SMV as girls around my age? Even if I cared, they all “already have a boyfriend”. And their SMV would go downhill more and more, they become crazy cat ladies. But get baby rabies first, and I’d be supposed to pay for child upbringing and family car and family house. And then get divorced. How about no?

And then according to the chart, my SMV would be also comparable to the 15 year old jailbaits? Age of consent is less than 18 here, but those girls are just a completely different age and generation, more brainwashed too. And they are still not adults yet, so they may be in between being childish and being “strong empowered women” riding CC.

So, what if I’d wait a few years so that I’ll be 38 and they 23? Still the same brainwashed generation, very much different amount of life experience (20 years versus 5 years, counting it from age 18) So we simply just could’t understand each other.

So, this whole thing is just very bad as it is.

You say it like it is.

Once you have moved over the point of being “young and poor” your thinking with your real head comes in and lets you avoid all bulls~~~ other men stepped into only “to do what’s expected of them”.

I was even a more blatant case of female gold digging:

I was “sought after”, females “wanted” me as I was the tallest (and wealthiest) of the class. But my hobbies and the fact that I was looking for an “equal partner to talk to” made me incompatible. And so the c~~~s all moved on to the guys in their “mental class”.

And the c~~~s hated that I was not willing to give up my “stupid hobbies” to finance their disco and cinema events.

C~~~s are shallow and they don’t read books together with you. Or watch some history documentary and talk about it later. Having a girlfriend is like having an expensive and spoiled house cat.

She comes cuddling and purring, but only if she wants to (after you have done what she ordered you to do)

And feeding her to make her stay costs you and arm and a leg.

I took the short cut. They left early before costing me too much.

But the gold digging become obvious after I was known everywhere as a company owner with years in business…

Then all of a sudden, my stupid hobbies were considered “interesting”… And I did the same: I told them that I will never have money left for a family… And that I consider family life as a life in chains.

Well I could tell first hand that some women are sorry (and mad) about the damage other women did to so many men that men are no longer “available” because of this…

“Well I am not like that”… My answer: “Who is going to guarantee that?”

Trust between the sexes is broken and can’t be fixed. And the anti-male-biased laws also display that so bluntly.

I got to see many p~~~ed-off women whom I told these facts to.

Only dumb c~~~s can’t see where we MGTOW are coming from. (85-95 % ???, those who deserve my cat pics)

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