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A study of 200,000 online daters looked at the desirability of male and female users determined that men’s sexual desirability peaks at 50 while women’s peaks at 18.
“The age gradient for women definitely surprised us – both in terms of the fact that it steadily declined from the time women were 18 to the time they were 65, and also how steep it was.” The study echoed data from an OkCupid study in 2010 which showed men ages 22-30 focus almost entirely on women who are younger than them.
Now, of course this turns out to be men’s fault, but who didn’t see that one coming. Just proving one more time that The Wall is real. It just may be closer than she thinks.
ALL HAIL THE WALL!!
Order the good wine
Men’s financial earning potential is peaked at 50 years old.
Coincidence?!
Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.
The SMV (sexual market value) chart below caused me to fall back in my chair when I first saw it. When I was 18, I was virtually invisible women … right up until about 26. But options really opened up around 36 and generally stayed that way. Oddly, as I got older, women were the same age.
Regardless of how it applies to each individual, its important ALL men notice the “convergence point” – around 28-32. This is the period of time where women silently begin to realize they will soon be supplanted by a new generation of hotties and their SMV is on the decline….. but it’s also the point where a man has not yet realized his potential. He has no idea that things are just STARTING for him.
The “convergence point” is where her SMV will begin a precipitous drop – where his is likely going to ascend. It’s also the point where women start using VERY desperate & slippery methods to lock you down BEFORE you realize this yourself. Too many men fall into this trap thinking they are 29 and “she is the best I’m ever gonna do”.
I met a very smart 29 year old guy last weekend. He’s exactly at this point.
Thankfully, he’s already hip to this s~~~.In the car, I remarked “you know, being a well-put-together 50+ year old guy with no kids, never divorced, no baggage and no debts is a lot like being an 18 year old chick with perfect t~~~.” We laughed our heads off. Because it’s not far from the truth. He knew EXACTLY what I meant.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Coincidence?!
Nope! Just misogyny! You pig!
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805“you know, being a wll-put-together 50+ year old guy with no kids, never divorced, no baggage and no debts is a lot like being an 18 year old chick with perfect t~~~.”
This is a legendary statement that covers many things in one sentence.
"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.
In the car, I remarked “you know, being a well-put-together 50+ year old guy with no kids, never divorced, no baggage and no debts is a lot like being an 18 year old chick with perfect t~~~.” We laughed our heads off. Because it’s not far from the truth. He knew EXACTLY what I meant.
The major difference is that the man will be a whole lot wiser than the 18 year old. He will make decisions in order to protect what he has and make it last after he no longer has that value. She will act like it’s going to last forever and blame society when she is no longer revered as a princess.
Ok. Then do it.
In the United States of America,
There’s nothing more undervalued then a young, broke male.
There’s nothing more overvalued then a young, beautiful female.
Money is God.
Interesting that chart placed a man’s peak smv at 36, followed by a decline, vs. an incline to 50 in the article. I suppose there is rationale for both perspectives. I’m 36 now, and wonder how I’ll compare to my 50 y/o self.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.
I’m 36 now, and wonder how I’ll compare to my 50 y/o self.
Your wallet will be fatter, your waistline probably a little fatter, your back and knees will hurt a little more, and you’ll get up to pee in the middle of the night. Other than that, pretty much exactly the same. Guys don’t mature between 35-50, that s~~~ was done by the late 20’s.
Order the good wine
Men’s financial earning potential is peaked at 50 years old.
Coincidence?!
You hit the nail on the head there!
It’s not your “Sexual” value they are looking at, but your wallet.
Follow the money….OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE
In the car, I remarked “you know, being a well-put-together 50+ year old guy with no kids, never divorced, no baggage and no debts is a lot like being an 18 year old chick with perfect t~~~.” We laughed our heads off. Because it’s not far from the truth. He knew EXACTLY what I meant.
That’s why the c~~~s still pursue me – only to find out that I have no tolerance left for female related hardship (FRH) in my life. And that I constantly feed then their own medicine – under the guise of “equality” LOL.
And then they gladly rejoin the “poor chad” c~~~ carousel they came from.
I cannot be “betaized” aka “compatible”. LOL.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
It is entirely financial- I am looking back at the BEST years of my life- I believe they are yet to come in the form of self actualisation, something a beta simp can’t dream of.
What also needs to be said that in the U.S., a 30’s rabid tinderboxed, indebted credit/student dissipated and packing a cavernous introitus can spend inumerable hours at hair and beauty salons : for what?
I appreciate fine women. Even get to examine “the goods” as a medical doctor. This week a new mother came in: she was an 8/10 5 years ago- now more like 6/10 and falling rapidly. It is an immutable law that beauty is not only skin deep, but is ephemeral.
Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.
Quoting one of my old signatures:
“The Wall gets them all”
Nice revenge for the years of having a high price tag and an unjustified superiority complex. In other words: For being “arrogant as f~~~” when they were schoolgirls.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
In the car, I remarked “you know, being a well-put-together 50+ year old guy with no kids, never divorced, no baggage and no debts is a lot like being an 18 year old chick with perfect t~~~.”
Very true.
It’s like that movie The Curious Case of Benjiman Button in real life.
The greatest tragedy in life is to spend your whole life fishing only to discover that it was not fish you were after. - Henry David Thoreau
Hey My son harpomason has 55 year old poverty stricken flesh.
But I am the spirit and personal id of his father.
That makes me a 75year old person in a 55 year old body.I have to start working out so that by the time i am 56
I can show off as a 76 year old person who looks as fit as a 56 year old.Is that Biblical I think it is if you remember the son is the right hand and in it are length of days…verse 16
I went broke every year working in the summer and studying in the winter
I worked for what I needed and that was not money but knowledge and understanding..proverbs 3:13-18
Happy is the man who finds wisdom,
And the man who gains understanding;
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For her proceeds are better than the profits of silver,
And her gain than fine gold.
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She is more precious than rubies,
And all the things you may desire cannot compare with her.
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Length of days is in her right hand,
In her left hand riches and honor.
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Her ways are ways of pleasantness,
And all her paths are peace.
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She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her,
And happy are all who [a]retain her.I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Anonymous3In the United States of America,
There’s nothing more undervalued then a young, broke male.
There’s nothing more overvalued then a young, beautiful female.
Not just in USA, but everywhere.
I was young, no money yet, and I was completely ignored by all girls.
Later, I was only “good enough” for a social reject girl.
Later, with some PUA knowledge, I was “good enough” for some fat girls who turned out to be bitchy as time passed, sex went down, emotional blackmail and relations~~~ bulls~~~ went up. (some self-improvement stuff helped lot more on career than relations~~~s issues)Then, I realized, that no matter what I do, I will never ever be “good enough” for any hotties. I’m not ugly, but I’m not prince charming with big blah-blah and confidence. I’m just a silent normal guy. Better concentrate on stuff that actually brings good results.
And, thinking more, I realized, I don’t want to be the “human resource” of a girl, to pay off her life demands, and to get bitching in exchange. I never saw any relationships that were good. I began to ask questions about the hidden reality of relationships. And then discovered Mgtow.
So, at 32, I’m supposed to have comparable SMV as girls around my age? Even if I cared, they all “already have a boyfriend”. And their SMV would go downhill more and more, they become crazy cat ladies. But get baby rabies first, and I’d be supposed to pay for child upbringing and family car and family house. And then get divorced. How about no?
And then according to the chart, my SMV would be also comparable to the 15 year old jailbaits? Age of consent is less than 18 here, but those girls are just a completely different age and generation, more brainwashed too. And they are still not adults yet, so they may be in between being childish and being “strong empowered women” riding CC.
So, what if I’d wait a few years so that I’ll be 38 and they 23? Still the same brainwashed generation, very much different amount of life experience (20 years versus 5 years, counting it from age 18) So we simply just could’t understand each other.
So, this whole thing is just very bad as it is.
Being 50 myself, I can attest that this thread is absolutely true. I went from the bottom of the Paraeto in my 20’s, to the top percentage in my late 40’s. Women that wouldn’t acknowledge my existence 20 years ago, now all but throw themselves at me…It’s f~~~ing hilarious!
Sovereignty above all else.
What do you guys think, does a man’s smv peak at 36 or 50?
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.
What do you guys think, does a man’s smv peak at 36 or 50?
It’s much closer to 50 as long as you haven’t been doing useless s~~~. You can always go out and make more money.
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805DartPeter, great analysis. That is definitely how it goes.
A normal guy I worked with who was approaching fifty kept getting the other staff women’s attention. His reply was, “Where were all these women ten or fifteen years ago?”
When my female peers at 25 were at their physical and mental peak and were unavailable to me because I was married, I learned to live without them. Now, at 36 and divorce-raped, I basically have my pick but am uninterested.
"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.
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