Women DON'T love you

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

Where is there room for love when a woman is self infatuated as some kind of mythical princess?

MG-Tower for the win.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

Stargazer wrote:

Be honest with yourself… as a man, do you honestly sit around thinking about how your life is important and valuable because of the meat sack you’re wearing… or do you feel it is so because of your ambitions, aspirations and achievements?

Oh please. I don’t know about you, but I am awesome. I’m awesome when I do awesome stuff. And I’m awesome when I do nothing at all. I am 24/7 awesome. The rest of the world might not realize that, but what the f~~~ does the rest of the world know anyways? I know it, and my opinion is the only one that matters, especially to me. If society and especially women want to withhold their approval from me to try to dole it out in exchange for goods and services from me, well they can get f~~~ed, because I don’t give a damn about their worthless approval. If society and especially women want something from me they’d damn well better make it worth my while, in a very real and concrete manner, or they can go and do it for themselves. Or they can go without. I don’t care. I’m too busy being awesome while doing nothing at all.

Moreover, while I can only speak for myself, I strongly suspect most men out there are awesome as well, especially the awesome men I see on this forum. However a lot of men have been fooled so they don’t know how awesome they really are. And not knowing how awesome they really are, they try to compensate for their perceived lack of awesomeness by seeking the approval of society and women. This lets society and women scam valuable goods and services from these poor, fooled men for nothing. Because that’s what their approval ultimately is worth: nothing. This is why I suspect the rest of the world, and women, actually do realize just how awesome men inherently are, which explains why they spend so much time and effort trying to fool men into not realizing it themselves.

I’m not going to waste everyone’s time here with some MGTOW manifesto or create some list of fatuous rules and definitions about Going Your Own Way, but I do know that one of the foundation stones, if not the very heart of Going Your Own Way, is the realization of your own inherent awesomeness and the worthlessness of the approval of society and women. And that is also the core reason behind the hatred and fear of MGTOW by society and feminists and traditionalists and women and everyone, because once a man realizes his own awesomeness and the worthlessness of their approval he will never again give them something for nothing. Their age old scam is over, and suddenly society and women have to earn their own keep for a change, and that thought terrifies them.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

@doc Fenderson, great post, reality is we are defined by our base fundamental biological urges. There is no inherent problem in that, in fact Keymaster identifies the problem, in the way society paints the illusion, to distract us from the reality of self interested feminine hypergamy and uses man’s very basic fundamental nature against him to trap and punish him. Much the way we set up a mouse trap to catch and kill, society has set up traps for men, to trap and subjugate. I suppose to an extent women are victims too, they are forced (all be it willingly) to join in on the carousel, fed the unique snowflake, cupcake fantasy and almost guaranteed to become miserable, sure we could argue the ungrateful c~~~s will always be miserable, and men pay a real price whereas woman miss out on their fantasy.

Men are indoctrinated and manipulated into that illusion from the beginning, that is why we are all here, trying to undo all that false programming. Thank you both for allowing me to piece together disassociated knowledge just as Doc’s handle quote by H.P. Lovecraft, hopefully I will enjoy the new dark age.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Keymaster wrote:

he’s just a man fully aware of his role in society, how women (and the world) look at him, and he’s passing on the knowledge to others who haven’t learned it yet.

… and I am right in on that mission, too in whichever ways possible (that German audio-blog idea is not off the cards yet, still in preparation).

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

KeyMaster:

Granted, females and their proxy males have no sense of value of a man’s inherent personhood. That’s why, as you’ve clearly and succinctly put it, we must care for our inherent personhood ourselves by denying our disposable utility value to people who would take it from us without offering anything of equal and complimentary value in return.

I like to be useful but I do not like to be used. That, to me, is the key.

I should have been more clear… a man who recognizes and accepts that the world sees him only for his utility value is different from a man who struggles with and refuses to accept this fact and believes the world should see him differently. Nice guys, manginas and MRAs (to some degree) all believe the world should look at them differently, see their intrinsic value and treat them with fairness and respect… and frogs want wings so they won’t bump their asses a’hoppin too but it’s not going to happen.

MGTOW, as you all well know, is not about wishing the world was fair and that men were treated better, it’s about recognizing the world for what it is and refusing to be used and mistreated any further.

[Anonymous 1]

Just posting this here.

Cheers.

[Anonymous 1]

Stargazer wrote:

No, females do not love us for the sexual attractiveness of our physical bodies any more than we love them for their intellect, ambition and domination of the natural world… and I say thank goodness for that because it would be entirely contrary to reality. We men are supposed to be the rational ones here and we should be able to see and accept the reality of gender differences and the power of playing to our strengths, not expecting to be rewarded for our weaknesses.

Although I agree with the biological origins of the different standards  men and women hold regarding each other, I don’t think it has/need to be this way. I think this kind of thought is what landed us into this mess we see nowadays in the first place. Expecting men to be the rational, the providers and the responsible ones while women could keep living an eternal childhood (mentally), without the need to ever grow old. Can you really blame women for being narcissistic when men are there to provide attention? Can you blame them for being useless when men are there to cater they every need? Biology may have started things this way, but the last time I checked, our brains had evolved quite a bit since our primate days.

So I refuse to believe it is our “job” to be the rational ones, and give women a free pass to either: a) do as they please or b) don’t do anything. I want them to have their rights and RESPONSABILITIES! Let them be the disposable for once. Let’s put them to the draft, let them take risks and fail. Let them work their ass off to survive if needed be, and if cohabitating, let them pull their part of the bargain. No more free drinks or free rides in anyway. Let’s demand of these women to be on a men’s level!

Freeman wrote:

You can take man and woman on a deserted island with no influence from stress, TV, the media, government, bills, taxes, etc…. and the dynamic will be the same. You will do all the work, and she will EXPECT you to do all the work. When she’s thirsty, she will expect him to climb the f~~~ing coconut tree and find a way to crack it open for her. If he were to refuse to do it, the next thunderclap he would hear is the sound of her vagina closing to him forever.

I don’t think biology determinism is inescapable either. That women’s biology are so “defective” that, in a situation where men refuse to help women, women would just lay down and die. She would be forced to act, and in acting, she may, eventually, see the world form a male’s perspective.

If biology was so definitive, there would be no Mgtow, since it is also male nature to do whatever it takes to procreate. So I ask, if women opened their legs tomorrow in exchange for your lives work, how many mgotws would be willing to marry? Some, maybe, but not all. And I dare to say not many.

Imagine, however, if women were willing to accept equality, and I mean TRUE equality. Actually helping men and building a life together with complimentary work (and no, sex and housekeeping is not equivalent to working 60-80 hours a week, or on a dangerous job). How many mgtows would still be there?

Men have to stop pussy begging, white knighting and Women have to start being accountable for their actions! Mgtows don’t believe that the word is fair, but then again, I don’t think we (or at least some of us) gave up in wishing it could or should be fair and I believe it is achievable.  And I also believe men’s life is as intrinsically as valuable as a women’s life.

Sorry for the rant, but some comments here got me on the wrong way. Men’s disposability p~~~es me off, no matter how you put it. Maybe I am overacting, or misreading the comments. Or maybe there is no escape biology and we are f~~~ed anyway. I like to be optimistic though. 🙂

Cheers.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

I am glad to see that you picked a kitten, but why stop at one?
/womens-shelter/

WHY CAN’T YOU MEAN JUST BE LITTLE DONORS AND F~~~ WOMAN!
I REALLY F~~~ING HATE THIS SITE!!
STOP OPPRESSING WOMEN YOU LITTLE PRICKS!!
WHY CAN’T YOU JUST DO YOU JOBS AS MEAN AND F~~~ WOMEN!!!!
STOP BACKLASHING YOU IMBECLEAS!!!!!!!!!

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

It’s just an amateur troll.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

This was a good thread.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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