Women are not evil.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Stargazer wrote:

none of it was real in the first place.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Women are humans.
They have the full capability to understand what they’re doing.
I understand that you manginas want to give them a pussy pass at all costs but it’s not flying with me.

You do evil,
you’re evil.

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

@doc

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Boy, I’ve never seen an issue so divisive. It’s like a civil war, isn’t it? Even amongst my friends, who are all very intelligent; they’re totally divided on women. It’s unbelievable. Some of my friends, for instance, think women are annoying idiots. Other of my friends think women … are evil f~~~s. How are we going to come to a consensus? You ought to hear the arguments around my house: “They’re annoying, they’re idiots.” “They’re evil, they’re f~~~s!” Brothers, come together! Can’t we once just join hands and think of them as evil-annoying-idiot-f~~~s? I beseech you.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

you do evil things, you are evil.
end of story.
i dont care or want to know your motivations, only your actions.

[narwhalParticipant]

I am not a fan of the argument that what you do defines what you are. You do evil, therefore you are evil. It implies that you are incapable of change. As well, who defines how much doing evil is required to be evil? In the end, it’s just semantics really.

Regarding on whether women can stop from doing evil. I have no doubt that they cannot entirely stop from doing evil, the same way man cannot stop doing evil entirely on his own. This is why we need laws to help keep us in check. This is why laws need to be changed to help keep woman’s nature in check. In the absence of laws, MGTOW is most definitely the way to go.

Do women know what they do? I think they do sometimes. I think they are good at justifying their actions in their minds. Men are no different in that regard. I believe most men who get married are aware of the mistake they are making, yet they justify it in their minds. They don’t want to connect the dots because the dots will lead to immediately disappoint…the answer is ‘no’. Women don’t want to connect the dots either. The reality that you aren’t special, being fat is not as good as being in shape, you don’t deserve special treatment….why accept that if you don’t have to?

The way I see it, it’s a f~~~ed up world. Always has been and always will be. Best thin you can do is to use your head and avoid the evil where you can and try not to add to the mess.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 54]

A tornado never told me it loved me before it atempted to destroy me.I think the Boss Man (KM)wants us to avoid the evil word…but…There are all kind of guys on here. Some akward with women,some just fed up with them . Too much infighting.

[Anonymous 54]

Snake wrote:

Boy, I’ve never seen an issue so divisive. It’s like a civil war, isn’t it? Even amongst my friends, who are all very intelligent; they’re totally divided on women. It’s unbelievable. Some of my friends, for instance, think women are annoying idiots. Other of my friends think women … are evil f~~~s. How are we going to come to a consensus? You ought to hear the arguments around my house: “They’re annoying, they’re idiots.” “They’re evil, they’re f~~~s!” Brothers, come together! Can’t we once just join hands and think of them as evil-annoying-idiot-f~~~s? I beseech you.

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This is why feminism is winning.Most ALL women are for it. Men are diveded.

[Anonymous 3]

I would point out a TED talk (not a good one, but informative) about evil.

Even good people, in the right environment can do bad things. In this talk he mentions a famous experience where people where called to administer electric shocks to other people, even being warned that after certain level they could kill the victim. Every one, with one exception, applied the shocks and beyond the “death threshold”.
All that people needed was a “system” where they where doing what they where told by an authority.

That is how I see people, they think is natural to do what they see other people doing around them. And if the state, church or other authority says its ok, they will do it without moral problems.

It requires a special kind of person to question the “system” and see what is morally wrong, that would be a MGTOW. Its the guy that refuses to do a nazi salute around an enthusiastic nazi crowd. After losing the war nobody was nazi, and never liked them…

So, women are free to behave how they see other people behaving. They think its fair because the state, society and other women say its fair.

BUT, its still evil when its evil. Nazis where not excused from their actions, regardless of their intentions.

The bible says:

Matthew 7:20
So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

I would point out a TED talk (not a good one, but informative) about evil.

Even good people, in the right environment can do bad things. In this talk he mentions a famous experience where people where called to administer electric shocks to other people, even being warned that after certain level they could kill the victim. Every one, with one exception, applied the shocks and beyond the “death threshold”.
All that people needed was a “system” where they where doing what they where told by an authority.

That is how I see people, they think is natural to do what they see other people doing around them. And if the state, church or other authority says its ok, they will do it without moral problems.

It requires a special kind of person to question the “system” and see what is morally wrong, that would be a MGTOW. Its the guy that refuses to do a nazi salute around an enthusiastic nazi crowd. After losing the war nobody was nazi, and never liked them…

So, women are free to behave how they see other people behaving. They think its fair because the state, society and other women say its fair.

BUT, its still evil when its evil. Nazis where not excused from their actions, regardless of their intentions.

The bible says:

Matthew 7:20
So then, by their fruit you will recognize them.

I saw that emperiment. Pretty scarey.One thing Mgtows posses…Independent thinking!!

[Anonymous 54]

A sociopath will never grow a conscious.It just doesnt work that way.Whens the last time you saw a female with a guilty conciuos?

[VarunParticipant 2981]

A few weeks ago, I had to go to the nearby store to pick up groceries when I came across this woman-neighbour I know who was struggling with a very heavy bag in one hand and a child on another. My MGTOW instinct was to ‘ignore and go your own way’ but something inside me stated that I should help her with her bag. I did help her. No, I wasn’t sexually attracted to her (she’s a lot older and fat) nor did I have any bad experiences with her; in fact, during Holi (festival) she and her husband invited the local boys to a very good evening treat of Pav Bhaji which we enjoyed a lot. So yes maybe I owed her my hand but it wouldn’t have made any difference if I had just ignored her. I didn’t lose my sovereignty. Nor is that simple accident change my views on women.

I brought up this topic before and received the same kind of bashing too.

But going your own way means that if you think women are evil, they are evil. If you don’t think they are, they aren’t. The term was, I believe, carved after a great deal of thought; it was to prevent civil conflict.

Lets believe what we choose to believe. Some people think they are superior to everyone else. So you are. Some people think NAWALT, others believe AWALT…. there isn’t really a cause for concern. This place does not make you follow rules. Its not like: “You have to hate women!” or “You have to like women but at the same time not like them”.. no bulls~~~ like that. Sure there are a few basic rules, like, men only. I believe this rule was set, not to stop women from disrupting this space, but rather it was because without that rule, it would have been a never-ending squabble among both sexes day-in day-out over here.

Like the doc says, those who do not agree with a fellow member, you don’t have to stress over it. We are all a bunch who’ve plugged off from the gynocracy and saved ourselves: that’s what’s important.

That said, I think fighting will only lead to misery. “You’re wrong, I’m right” fights will only add to the flame of rage that will and will destroy you from inside out. I don’t care if you think I’m a blue pill pussy beggar or a disillusioned brat, but I do want to tell you that the more you ponder over how much of a loser I am, the more YOU are harmed, not me. As for me, I only wish peace be upon you. Don’t get nothing if I do, nothing if I don’t.

I recommend this book to everyone. Its a really good read.
15 laws of Success: B y Napoleon Hill

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Snake wrote:

“They’re annoying, they’re idiots.” “They’re evil, they’re f~~~s!” Brothers, come together! Can’t we once just join hands and think of them as evil-annoying-idiot-f~~~s? I beseech you.

Lol!

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

But seriously, folks… let’s go meta here for a moment and talk about what good and evil actually mean.

As a free thinking human being, I do not believe there is any such thing as objective good and evil. There’s no guy in a white robe or dude with a pitchfork… there are only choices that individuals make which are perceived differently by other individuals.

So instead of saying “good” I would say “desirable”… and likewise “evil” becomes “undesirable” and then I define these things as the actions or states of affairs which serve to either promote my health, wealth and well being or demote it. In other words, things that support me (and, by extension, those around me and the world in general upon which I depend) I would say are desirable to me (good) whereas those which undermine me are undesirable to me (evil).

So one man’s good can be another man’s evil and vice versa. When a thing (e.g. divorce rape) gets large enough and does so much damage that it reveals itself to be undesirable to a great many people, you still can’t call it “evil” because it’s still subjective. For every person who gets raped in divorce court, there are three or four other people who get exactly what they want and consider it good because it’s better for them than the alternatives (getting real jobs and being self sufficient).

You see what I mean? So it’s not just a matter of saying “women are evil and must be stopped” or “women are a force of nature and therefore beyond reproach”… you have to say “what they do, while maybe profitable and desirable for them, is exceptionally damaging and undesirable for me so therefore I refuse to interact with them where I have a choice and will fight being forced to interact with them, should it become necessary.”

The the entire focus then shifts from THEM and what they’re doing and why to YOU and what YOU should be doing for yourself… as it should be.

[Anonymous 1]

Some people think women are evil and some think they’re not.

I just dont care. Tell me there’s been a bull sharks spotted in the surf and I’ll stay out of the water.

Not one to question the motive.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

If the water is polluted, that’s good enough reason for me to stay out of it.
Marriage has a 50 percent chance of going full-divorce.
Going into the water would give me a 50 percent chance that I’d get cancer from the bulls~~~ toxins floating in that water, or that some parasite would swim up my dick and lodge eggs in it, and the only way to get it out is amputation.

That’s good enough reason for me to stay out of the water.

Here’s my belief on the whole “women are evil” topic.

Women are evil. Men are evil too. Why? Because we are BOTH human. And humans are nowhere near a perfect creation and they all have bad thoughts from time to time. It’s how they choose to act on those thoughts that make them TRULY evil.
Women are evil because they know they can get away with that s~~~ when they see their friends doing it too and it’s considered “normal” by the society around them and the laws that protect women and their right to do so.
Laws created by men because they are just as flawed to believe that they need to “protect” these women.

[Anonymous 3]

Stargazer wrote:

As a free thinking human being, I do not believe there is any such thing as objective good and evil. There’s no guy in a white robe or dude with a pitchfork… there are only choices that individuals make which are perceived differently by other individuals.

I do agree with the Doc. There is not thing as an objective dualism. Either good/evil, black/white, useful/useless… They are all subjective concepts. Any situation is the product of the individual/social conditioning and the enviroment.

The problem here is that this knowledge does not help us. If we go treating everybody as a particular case we cease to operate due to the overwhelming excess of information.

This means that we must generalize. I have seen a man dealing with lions like they where its pets, but my generalization is that lions will eat me. And that is the most probable outcome.

Good or evil are generalizations that come with certain expectations. We can and should put people under these groups, because its a reasonable guideline.
A murderer is bad by default. Most of them are really bad and dangerous, while some of them might be good people in the wrong circumstances. Is it smart to treat them like they all could be good?
So, with everything we know about women we can say they ARE BAD. But that is a generalization and we should know it.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

The problem here is that this knowledge does not help us. If we go treating everybody as a particular case we cease to operate due to the overwhelming excess of information. This means that we must generalize.

The subjectiveness of our judgements are not at odds with making generalizations… so long as we do it in in one specific direction. If I as an INDIVIDUAL make generalizations about a class of things and determine though my experience that they are undesirable to me, then I have saved myself a lot of time and trouble of having to try to pet every tiger or pull every pin on every grenade in the hopes of finding a desirable outcome. In this regard, generalizing can work for me.

But when generalizations are used in the opposite direction… if I were to say that a thing or class of things that I personally find undesirable are undesirable TO EVERYONE IN GENERAL by, say, labeling them as “evil”, then I have lost the thread of subjectivity and made an objective judgement and generalization is no longer working in the manner you described.

Put simply, We each don’t have to judge every thing on its own, but each of us should judge everything on our own.

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