Will it ever be socially acceptable to be openly MGTOW?

[TheTravellerParticipant 56]

Currently only by two best friends know that I have chosen the MGTOW lifestyle after being mentally, financially and emotionally exploited by my final ex girlfriend. They are understanding of my choice but they are still blue-pilled because they firmly believe that NAWALT and that they will find their unicorn someday. When will men who have checked out and gone MGTOW be accepted by the rest of society? I don’t really care about keeping it quiet but the constant nagging by other friends and family to get married and settle down is annoying to the point that I am considering cutting all contact and effectively removing them from my life.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Probably not but really why should it matter? Unlike women, the man who pursues his own dreams will not seek the acceptance of others, but rather the richness and rewards of his conquests.

[Anonymous 54]

Sorry, but I dont think so.
There will allways be men that measure other Men by how much pussy you get.
And keeping a wifey poo happy.

There will allways be thoses that shame you for it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

If you had a superpower — like the ability to see through clothes or read minds — would you tell anyone? I would internalize and keep it to myself. It’s better that way.

TheTraveller wrote:

they are still blue-pilled because they firmly believe that NAWALT and that they will find their unicorn someday

I discovered a great way to handle it.
OVER-CONGRATULATE them. And really take it over the top:

“OMG YOU’RE (THINKING OF) SIGNING A MARRIAGE CONTRACT?? CONGRATULATIONS!!! You’re PERFECT for it!!! Who else is gonna keep this ridiculous going show going? I’m sure your princess is that perfect NAWALT unicorn diamond in a mountain of rubble. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!! They’re just bitter.”

Then shake his hand vigorously , with your other hand on his shoulder – looking him straight in the eye. Then let that smile turn into your most serious face. Hold eye contact for a few uncomfortable seconds and don’t even blink. Then walk.

He will never forget you said it.
Twice as effective in front of others – especially the bride.

You won’t need to explain, reveal or justify “MGTOW” at all.
And they can’t nail you on it. ( “Agree and amplify”. )

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Samurai GentParticipant 204]

MGTOW = The need for it is self evident to a thinking person. It’s justification is like a combat medic having justify having a first aid kit.

If you don’t get it, you’re part of the problem.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

Anonymous wrote:

There will allways be men that measure other Men by how much pussy you get.

Yep. After dropping some truth bombs on my roommate about his gf, I got the response “At least I’m getting some.” She’s going to crush him and eventually I’ll be the one helping him pick up the pieces of his shattered life. Or maybe I won’t. Lol!

Keymaster wrote:

I discovered a great way to handle it.
OVER-CONGRATULATE them.

BWAHAHAHA! I’d love to see their reaction to this! (Maybe I’ll give it a shot)

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[RobertPaulsonParticipant 128]

Do you think recovering alcoholics go around saying “no I don’t drink, I’m an alcoholic”? Of course not they say s~~~ like “no thanks, my stomach feels weird, maybe I’ll have a drink later”, “sure I drink, but I have to drive so.. not tonight thanks”, or just simply “no thanks”. See they outsmart the drinkers around them. They ghost in plain sight. It NOT that they can’t drink or don’t drink… it’s that they just aren’t doing it right now.

You can say things like…

1-Sure I want to get married.. when I find the right one.

2-I just need to find a woman as great as my mom… they just don’t make them like her anymore. Maybe one day I’ll get lucky… We’ll see.

3-Oh, I was sure that last one was “the one” but she cheated on me, or moved to cananda, or died… whatever…

Leonardo DiCaprio is GREAT at this s~~~. He’s be avoiding marriage for years.

[RobertPaulsonParticipant 128]

Keymaster wrote:

If you had a superpower — like the ability to see through clothes or read minds — would you tell anyone? I would internalize and keep it to myself. It’s better that way.

TheTraveller wrote:

they are still blue-pilled because they firmly believe that NAWALT and that they will find their unicorn someday

I discovered a great way to handle it.
OVER-CONGRATULATE them. And really take it over the top:

“OMG YOU’RE (THINKING OF) SIGNING A MARRIAGE CONTRACT?? CONGRATULATIONS!!! You’re PERFECT for it!!! Who else is gonna keep this ridiculous going show going? I’m sure your princess is that perfect NAWALT unicorn diamond in a mountain of rubble. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!! They’re just bitter.”

Then shake his hand vigorously , with your other hand on his shoulder – looking him straight in the eye. Then let that smile turn into your most serious face. Hold eye contact for a few uncomfortable seconds. And walk.

He will never forget you said it.
Twice as effective in front of others – especially the bride.

You won’t need to explain, reveal or justify “MGTOW” at all.
And they can’t nail you on it. “Agree and amplify”.

BRILLIANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

RobertPaulson wrote:

1-Sure I want to get married.. when I find the right one.

2-I just need to find a woman as great as my mom… they just don’t make them like her anymore. Maybe one day I’ll get lucky… We’ll see.

3-Oh, I was sure that last one was “the one” but she cheated on me, or moved to cananda, or died… whatever…

These are great lies. It avoids the socially unaccepted AWALT theme and plays into the VERY accepted NAWALT theme. It won’t help enlightened your brothers, but it will help get people off your back without divulging you understand women’s secrets.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

TheTraveller wrote:

When will men who have checked out and gone MGTOW be accepted by the rest of society?

Never.

Thats like asking the antebellum southern plantation owners to be accepting of runaway slaves.

Because society is utterly dependent on men being good little wage slaves on the gynocentric plantation. It cannot exist without the surplus you are forced to produce when locked down supporting some whore and her spawn. That’s why modern women have been “liberated” sexually, socially, economically, and otherwise while men are still being subjected to the same exploitive social, sexual, and economic standards of the f~~~ing 17th century. No fault divorce for her; alimony for you. Slut walks for her; meetoo for you. Debtors prison is supposed to be unconstitutional, but yet men are still locked up by the millions for being unable to pay “family” court mandated “support”.

When you Go Your Own Way, you no longer have to support anyone but yourself. You cannot be forced to hand over your labor surplus to anyone. You can be self sufficient. Society never will be.

When you Go Your Own Way, you are literally taking bread from their parasitic mouths. They will never accept that.

But that is not your problem.

F~~~ them.

[HermitParticipant 1121]

The reason I wouldn’t tell anyone is that I’m afraid they’ll take it as a challenge to force me back into a relationship. I prefer to keep under the radar whenever possible.

I don't hate women. I just feel better when they're not around.

[VerusParticipant 965]

Many years ago I was in AZ with a tour group all of whom were much older than me, including several middle aged women. A couple of them took an interest in this one older guy who was a doctor. I remember they were asking him questions about why he was single, and one of them asked him if he would marry again. He said “no.” She asked why, and he said (paraphrasing) “I want to stay happy.” I guess he was MGTOW and open about it, just there wasn’t a word for MGTOW back then. And I guess there’s nothing stopping a man from being just as open about his views on marriage and relationships now. There’s no guilt by association unless you make that association explicit. You can always say “what’s MGTOW?”

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Not the way society is going, think most will just say confirmed bachelor, or walking the path of the monk.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

Honestly, i fully expect it to become mainstream very soon. I think most men will be MGTOW in the next 5-10 years.

But even if not, it doesn’t really matter. It is very easy to fly under the radar.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I’m waiting for it to become obvious. When society collapses and falls into ruin and starvation they will look at me and say: “Hey that guy has power, water, food, fire arms and he is surviving–must be MGTOW

YUP

[Anonymous 14]

I am openly MGTOW. I say all the time that I will never marry, never have kids. MGTOWs only fundamental principal is to never marry, and I guess never cohabitate with a female, never compromising one’s Sovereignty via a three way contract between man, woman, and State, and having kids falls under this umbrella as well because the State sure as f~~~ will be involved if she wants it to be if you knock her up.

So, based on that I am openly MGTOW. Nuances exceeding the fundamentals are displayed to others at my discretion.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

KeyMaster wrote:If you had a superpower — like the ability to see through clothes or read minds — would you tell anyone? I would internalize and keep it to myself. It’s better that way.

TheTraveller wrote:

they are still blue-pilled because they firmly believe that NAWALT and that they will find their unicorn someday

I discovered a great way to handle it.
OVER-CONGRATULATE them. And really take it over the top:

Instead of looking him in the eyes while shaking his hand, start the handshake looking her up and down
while saying:
“I can tell You found yourself a “REAL WOMAN”
because only a “REAL WOMAN” knows how to recognize
and choose a “REAL MAN” like yourself. Then turn and look him in the eyes for that few uncomfortable seconds.
Secretly checking to
See if he looks at her
reaction to what you said.

The MGTOW power is second to the power
of thinking in the spirit of my creator.

I cannot deny he guided me to MGTOW so
he could go his own way in his own
kingdom. I am just his new flesh suit. A&men

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I love it when blue pillers challenge me and tell me, “At least I’m getting some…”

My response: “Of course you’re getting some. YOU’RE THE CURRENT HIGHEST BIDDER, DUMBASS!”

But for the most part, whenever anyone asks me (politely) why I’m still single, I just answer depending on the person asking. For single men who I think can handle the truth, I give it to them. For women and blue pill men, I just say something like, “Well, finding the right woman is not as easy as it sounds…”, or Technically, this isn’t even a lie… since good women are extinct. And it gives them the impression that they already want to believe, which is the women are good and worth pursuing, and that I agree with this idea.

I liken it to giving a little whiskey to a baby.

It’s ethically questionable, but it quiets them down… 🙂

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

BrainPilot wrote:

I love it when blue pillers challenge me and tell me, “At least I’m getting some…”

My response: “Of course you’re getting some. YOU’RE THE CURRENT HIGHEST BIDDER, DUMBASS!”

Totally stealing this gem!

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

In my opinion, it will never be socially acceptable to be openly MGTOW.
But it really doesn’t matter. Who cares what society thinks? And I really don’t care what some woman thinks.
Ghosting is a valuable skill. While I personally am proud to be MGTOW, I don’t like to explain the concept to most people because I want to spend my time persuing other interests.
Every once in a while If I see a guy looking for answers I’ll offer advice, but not often.

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