Why your Girlfriend/Wife Wants to Cheat on You

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  • #186360
    Qcummer
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    I don’t see the problem with getting laid on a casual basis, it’s the mentality of wanting to own one in a relationship that brings problems.

    Every single successful society in our history, back to prehistoric times has practiced monogamy.

    100% INCORRECT.

    #186369
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    MgtowWave
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    Best way and only foolproof way not to be cheated on is NOT to be in a relations~~~.

    This article is only more evidence of the obvious.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #186379
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    Hellraider
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    Because its the sexual strategy that maximizes the woman´s offspring survival rate.

    Women are more atracted to alpha men when ovulating. Why?

    Because she wants to mix here genes with the superior alpha males genes.

    The rest of here reproductive cycle she is atracted to more feminin, beta type males because these are the ones that stick around and give her resources for here and the kids that were probably conceived by the alpha male.

    Men want to maximize there reproductive sucess by mating with the more beautiful, alpha women.

    That strategie evolved for millions of years, shaping human brains, both male and female.

    In todays world, women just want to f~~~ the alpha male in a nightclub and come back home to a beta male that provides, provides and provides.

    Its just in there nature, like in the story of the frog and the scorpion.

    #186384
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    Narwhal
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    I think I read the article differently. It doesn’t address why women fail to resist temptation, it only addresses why the temptation is there in the first place. Really this isn’t just about cheating, but why a woman choses to have sex with a man, any man.

    But it is such an incompletely picture, and I wouldn’t draw conclusion just on this information. If a woman biologically selects a man for sex, what are the forces that prevent her from doing so? Are those forces societal or biological? What is it that makes a man select a woman for sex? What are his counter-forces? What role do men and women want to play in child rearing, from a biological perspective? Is the way our society structured fit these biological impulses or are they in conflict? Could a society that is structured to match biological needs flourish?

    Regardless of all that, I have never liked when a woman expresses physical desire for a celebrity or somehow who obviously is out of reach or unable to meet her needs. I understand it a little better after looking at his article. For example, over half the female population in Houston wants to sleep with JJ Watt these days. This article explains why, and also gives me a clue on why I’m bothered by that.

    To me, these biological facts by themselves are not a reason to GYOW. It is the legal boundaries and social norms setup around sexual relations and child rearing that do it for me.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #186385
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    Anonymous
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    It seems far better to simply accept the distinct possibility of being cheated on.

    I have a very serious issue with being a cuck. Staying with a cheating woman is like swimming in sewage.

    I am an extremist when it comes to cheating. I won’t do it, nor will I allow it to be done to me. It’s better just to dump someone if you are not satisfied.

    I am no one’s beta.

    #186448
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    Bobphilo
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    I don’t see the problem with getting laid on a casual basis, it’s the mentality of wanting to own one in a relationship that brings problems.

    Every single successful society in our history, back to prehistoric times has practiced monogamy.

    100% INCORRECT.

    Oh really? Name one successful human society which is not primarily monogamous.

    #186457
    Bobphilo
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    It would take way too long to explain it if you don’t see it.
    You also seem incredibly defensive of this article, did you write it by any chance?

    If you don’t wish to explain your objections, there is no point to consider them further.
    No I did not author this article, though I wish I had. I will gladly defend a strong position against invalid and unexplained criticism.

    #186459
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    Theronius
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    Doesn’t MGTOW have room for taking pussy 100% on your terms?

    Sure, if the laws are adjusted so that the lying, cheating promiscuous women are 100% responsible for the bastards.
    But seriously, what self-respecting man would want to be with a filthy, cheating mongrel of a wife who can’t keep from opening her legs to any guy with a big c~~~? If he knew she was just a nasty slut to begin with, then he takes his chances and can wear 2 condoms, but he should never be held financially responsible for the nasty, stinking whore’s bastard children.
    If she promises to be faithful to him, as one does with marriage vows, then whores around with other men, he should be able to simply kick her lying, worthless, disease-ridden ass out into the street and keep his children, if they are really his.

    "I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

    #186462
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    Bobphilo
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    I think I read the article differently. It doesn’t address why women fail to resist temptation, it only addresses why the temptation is there in the first place. Really this isn’t just about cheating, but why a woman choses to have sex with a man, any man.

    But it is such an incompletely picture, and I wouldn’t draw conclusion just on this information. If a woman biologically selects a man for sex, what are the forces that prevent her from doing so? Are those forces societal or biological? What is it that makes a man select a woman for sex? What are his counter-forces? What role do men and women want to play in child rearing, from a biological perspective? Is the way our society structured fit these biological impulses or are they in conflict? Could a society that is structured to match biological needs flourish?

    Regardless of all that, I have never liked when a woman expresses physical desire for a celebrity or somehow who obviously is out of reach or unable to meet her needs. I understand it a little better after looking at his article. For example, over half the female population in Houston wants to sleep with JJ Watt these days. This article explains why, and also gives me a clue on why I’m bothered by that.

    To me, these biological facts by themselves are not a reason to GYOW. It is the legal boundaries and social norms setup around sexual relations and child rearing that do it for me.

    Thanks for a well thought out response. All behavior is a combination of biological and social factors. This article does not dismiss the social factors influencing behavior. It merely points out the biological factors that most people are unaware of behind female infidelity. True, we are not slaves to temptation, but the stronger the temptation the more likely more people are likely to give into it.
    No this is not the only factor involved in making men go MGTOW – it was never meant to be represented as such. It just serves as one of many warnings to men considering getting involved in relationships with women.

    #186475
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    Bobphilo
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    Best way and only foolproof way not to be cheated on is NOT to be in a relations~~~.

    This article is only more evidence of the obvious.

    Unfortunately, not so obvious to most men. Just another warning to men and another reason to go their own way

    #186481
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    CodeBleu
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    The thing about science is to follow the data wherever it may lead, sometimes it leads to answers that are counter intuitive: ones that we reject out of hand.

    The thing about the PUA community is that they have studied the psychology of women and have become very good at exploiting it (manipulating women who are natural manipulators). People frequently make decisions based on compulsions: these compulsions may be psychological or biological (horny).

    For a woman to cheat on her husband it makes perfect sense: women frequently play a double mating game. Screw an Alpha male when she is ovulating, then pass the kid off as her husbands.

    My father who is in the field of reproduction says that statistically the conservative estimate for paternity fraud is 15% of the population. Since women frequently don’t get pregnant from the first screwing session…this translates into a VERY HIGH percentage of women CHEATING: even more so since there is a 20 year window of fertility for a woman (15-35). After 22 their fertility starts to gradually decline, by the time they hit 35 it is a fraction of what it was when they were 28 and it is in free fall.

    Biologically it makes perfect sense for a woman to cheat: acquiring the best and different genes than those in her own group. And it makes perfect sense for women to be very good liars, since getting caught jeopardizes her offspring’s access (and her own) to resources produced by the cuckolded male.

    So yes…she is going to cheat and she is going to lie and her survival depends on being skilled at manipulation and exploitation of men.

    Women reject stats and facts all the time. They don’t care because their feelings dictate their reality. Women in general are hypergamous. It has been proven over and over and over again. But every single woman will tell you “Not all women are like that” or “I’m not like that.” Guess what cupcake? The stats prove that most of you are liars and we’re onto you.

    #186485
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    Bigboy83
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    I read this article before.
    So it has do with reproductive, yet the c~~~, can’t have the the baby with their husband?? And yet women still question why mgtow exist?

    Only a c~~~ would think like that.

    Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

    #186501
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    Michael
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    An exhaustive study was done in Germany showing the behavior of married women during their ovulatory cycle. It found that during their fertile period the wives had a strong desire to go to clubs without their husbands where they could meet studly men. The also dressed and danced more provocatively with these men.
    Interestingly husbands seem to sense this and are more guarding of their wives during this time.
    This supports the theme of this article.

    Speaking of guarding: I talked to this guy who married a hot girl from the Ukraine when she was 19 years old. By comparison he’s 40 something. He was a nice guy; but short, out of shape, unattractive and already had kids/ex wife baggage from a previous marriage.

    He told me his newlywed bride was “out at da club” every other weekend. Lol. I responded with laughter and surprise. He got upset and told me he didn’t have to worry about his wife cheating on him. He said the rules in America didn’t apply because “she’s from Ukraine”.

    I thought that was really funny.

    #186540
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    Bobphilo
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    An exhaustive study was done in Germany showing the behavior of married women during their ovulatory cycle. It found that during their fertile period the wives had a strong desire to go to clubs without their husbands where they could meet studly men. The also dressed and danced more provocatively with these men.
    Interestingly husbands seem to sense this and are more guarding of their wives during this time.
    This supports the theme of this article.

    Speaking of guarding: I talked to this guy who married a hot girl from the Ukraine when she was 19 years old. By comparison he’s 40 something. He was a nice guy; but short, out of shape, unattractive and already had kids/ex wife baggage from a previous marriage.

    He told me his newlywed bride was “out at da club” every other weekend. Lol. I responded with laughter and surprise. He got upset and told me he didn’t have to worry about his wife cheating on him. He said the rules in America didn’t apply because “she’s from Ukraine”.

    I thought that was really funny.

    So true Michael. That is really funny and this guy is truly a buffoon who is being played for a sucker. The woman obviously married a man old enough to be her father who she is not attracted to get into the U.S. and for the money and satisfies her urges for a hot stud by going to clubs without him. I bet when the slut gets pregnant she’ll convince him it’s his.

    #186553
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    Bomwa
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    Doesn’t MGTOW have room for taking pussy 100% on your terms?

    Sure, if the laws are adjusted so that the lying, cheating promiscuous women are 100% responsible for the bastards.
    But seriously, what self-respecting man would want to be with a filthy, cheating mongrel of a wife who can’t keep from opening her legs to any guy with a big c~~~? If he knew she was just a nasty slut to begin with, then he takes his chances and can wear 2 condoms, but he should never be held financially responsible for the nasty, stinking whore’s bastard children.
    If she promises to be faithful to him, as one does with marriage vows, then whores around with other men, he should be able to simply kick her lying, worthless, disease-ridden ass out into the street and keep his children, if they are really his.

    Well again, I say, isn’t the point to avoid getting the wife in the first place?

    So if you’re not married, not living together, what does it matter if she ‘cheats’?

    If she does cheat, then there’s no way you marry her. It’s basically, allowing, and even encouraging her to bring out her true colors from the very beginning. Then, when she wants to settle down with you, you can say ‘but you chose to f~~~ around with other men’, ‘you weren’t faithful to me while we weren’t married, why would you be faithful when we are married?’

    This has to be better than conning yourself into thinking that she’s an angel, getting married, then getting your world shattered when you discover that she isn’t an angel.

    #186556
    Russky
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    An exhaustive study was done in Germany showing the behavior of married women during their ovulatory cycle. It found that during their fertile period the wives had a strong desire to go to clubs without their husbands where they could meet studly men. The also dressed and danced more provocatively with these men.
    Interestingly husbands seem to sense this and are more guarding of their wives during this time.
    This supports the theme of this article.

    Speaking of guarding: I talked to this guy who married a hot girl from the Ukraine when she was 19 years old. By comparison he’s 40 something. He was a nice guy; but short, out of shape, unattractive and already had kids/ex wife baggage from a previous marriage.

    He told me his newlywed bride was “out at da club” every other weekend. Lol. I responded with laughter and surprise. He got upset and told me he didn’t have to worry about his wife cheating on him. He said the rules in America didn’t apply because “she’s from Ukraine”.

    I thought that was really funny.

    So true Michael. That is really funny and this guy is truly a buffoon who is being played for a sucker. The woman obviously married a man old enough to be her father who she is not attracted to get into the U.S. and for the money and satisfies her urges for a hot stud by going to clubs without him. I bet when the slut gets pregnant she’ll convince him it’s his.

    Naa. This is her foot-in-the-door marriage. As soon as she gets citizenship (in 2 years) – she’ll clean him out and move on to the next target, whom she’s actively seeking at the club

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

    #186557
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    Bobphilo
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    Yes but all s~~~ is a lie. The era of male overinvesent is long gone. Sorry tradcon.

    Sorry if you think that the era of male overinvestment is long gone. Tell it to the men that are paying for child support or are raising children of unfaithful wives.

    #186563
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    Bobphilo
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    Doesn’t MGTOW have room for taking pussy 100% on your terms?

    Sure, if the laws are adjusted so that the lying, cheating promiscuous women are 100% responsible for the bastards.
    But seriously, what self-respecting man would want to be with a filthy, cheating mongrel of a wife who can’t keep from opening her legs to any guy with a big c~~~? If he knew she was just a nasty slut to begin with, then he takes his chances and can wear 2 condoms, but he should never be held financially responsible for the nasty, stinking whore’s bastard children.
    If she promises to be faithful to him, as one does with marriage vows, then whores around with other men, he should be able to simply kick her lying, worthless, disease-ridden ass out into the street and keep his children, if they are really his.

    Well again, I say, isn’t the point to avoid getting the wife in the first place?

    So if you’re not married, not living together, what does it matter if she ‘cheats’?

    If she does cheat, then there’s no way you marry her. It’s basically, allowing, and even encouraging her to bring out her true colors from the very beginning. Then, when she wants to settle down with you, you can say ‘but you chose to f~~~ around with other men’, ‘you weren’t faithful to me while we weren’t married, why would you be faithful when we are married?’

    This has to be better than conning yourself into thinking that she’s an angel, getting married, then getting your world shattered when you discover that she isn’t an angel.

    This is the whole point of the article. This is what to expect if you get involved with a woman in a relationship.

    #186568
    Bomwa
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    Doesn’t MGTOW have room for taking pussy 100% on your terms?

    Sure, if the laws are adjusted so that the lying, cheating promiscuous women are 100% responsible for the bastards.
    But seriously, what self-respecting man would want to be with a filthy, cheating mongrel of a wife who can’t keep from opening her legs to any guy with a big c~~~? If he knew she was just a nasty slut to begin with, then he takes his chances and can wear 2 condoms, but he should never be held financially responsible for the nasty, stinking whore’s bastard children.
    If she promises to be faithful to him, as one does with marriage vows, then whores around with other men, he should be able to simply kick her lying, worthless, disease-ridden ass out into the street and keep his children, if they are really his.

    Well again, I say, isn’t the point to avoid getting the wife in the first place?

    So if you’re not married, not living together, what does it matter if she ‘cheats’?

    If she does cheat, then there’s no way you marry her. It’s basically, allowing, and even encouraging her to bring out her true colors from the very beginning. Then, when she wants to settle down with you, you can say ‘but you chose to f~~~ around with other men’, ‘you weren’t faithful to me while we weren’t married, why would you be faithful when we are married?’

    This has to be better than conning yourself into thinking that she’s an angel, getting married, then getting your world shattered when you discover that she isn’t an angel.

    This is the whole point of the article. This is what to expect if you get involved with a woman in a relationship.

    Ok. Maybe I haven’t read enough MGTOW stuff to understand.

    But I’m imagining that there could be a MGTOW ‘relationship’. In my mind MGTOW is a state of being that gives a man the strength to live totally unaffected by gynocentrism.

    A man wants pussy. So, how can GYOW not include pussy? If you want it, then being true to yourself requires that you get it. Otherwise, aren’t you simply killing part of yourself?

    #186731
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    Theronius
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    So, how can GYOW not include pussy?

    GYOW can certainly include having sex, and often does, but it is still very dangerous because of the dishonest nature of women in relationships, and the biased nature of our laws.

    Well again, I say, isn’t the point to avoid getting the wife in the first place?

    Certainly! Bitches who behave like that, and the unfair laws that support them, are the reason to never even consider marrying or cohabiting with a woman, any woman. That why there are MGTOW.

    So if you’re not married, not living together, what does it matter if she ‘cheats’?

    Marital status doesn’t really matter. The laws will still favor her in almost all cases, and he can be financially liable for her stupid lying ass regardless of what she says at the outset. Her word carries no weight, and can never be trusted. No agreement or contract exists which can protect a man when she decides to spring the trap or just be stupid and careless.
    In the end, it’s all about honesty. True, if a woman doesn’t claim to be “faithful” to a guy, then he should not expect her to. But try to find a woman who will ever admit that she is f~~~ing multiple men. She will almost always lie about it, and dishonest people are not worth knowing under any circumstances.
    Anyway, a self-respecting man doesn’t want to share a nasty vagina with numerous random other men, so he shouldn’t soil himself with a promiscuous woman unless he wants venereal diseases and bastard children, since promiscuous women are by their very nature irresponsible.

    "I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

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