Why us?

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

Anonymous wrote:

I am a notorious non-conformist and always have been. I can sense bulls~~~ intuitively. I also have a very strong sense of self and self-preservation. Even as a blue piller, I would never let a woman ever fully control me.

Same here. I’ve always done the opposite of what the majority does if only because I hate “following the herd.” People who follow others just because it’s trending is completely retarded. It’s also why I never wasted that much time on Facebook/Myspace/T~~~ter etc.

I hate following the herd. Whenever people follow something mindlessly, it’s because they’re being led like sheep and into the slaughter house.

The main thing that kept me being a tradcon most of my life until I found this website is because of the “NAWALT” argument. Otherwise, I would’ve been a red piller all of my life.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

I still show too much empathy to people I shouldn’t. What a shame it is that I have to work at becoming a colder person. Qualities that I thought make me a good person have also caused my undoing. They made me weak.

Yes Joller so true.

That ASPD guy taught me I still work to do getting a handle on being an empath. There’s something about living in fear of your home being torched that is highly educational in that regard. He has committed acts of arson twice to my knowledge which is common with ASPDs.

When he threatened to torch my home, he came back on the following Sunday and lied about living under a bridge that week. He and this devil worshiping c~~~ he picked up were trying to force me to let them in my house while they lived in a van parked outside my curb. I stood like a rock against them though it nearly drove me insane.

He mentioned that he heard gunshots claiming they were only in the van one night and stayed under a bridge which I knew was a lie. He tried to shame me with: “You could have gotten us killed!”. I coldly stared at him and said “We’re sitting here talking. Are we not?”. His friends looked at me like I was Satan himself as I was cold as ice.

I’m learning to handle the bad side of being an empath. This site has helped me with that too.

PD people know how to take this ability and use it against us.

[mp357Participant 531]

in my experience anything done by lots and lots of people is usually stupid. if the internet and this site hadn’t been invented I probably would have given in at some point, resigning myself to a life of quiet desperation like so many men i see

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

Ihat ASPD guy taught me I still work to do getting a handle on being an empath. There’s something about living in fear of your home being torched that is highly educational in that regard

I have a friend that has anger issues, he’s been arrested for violence on many occasions. He once broke a girls jaw on a night out and and was tagged for 6 months (how he avoided prison I dont know). He has turned his violence on me a few times and it once resulted in us both being arrested (but not charged) for fighting in the street.
The problem is when he starts apologising, shows his lucid side and I’ll cave in. We’ve gone over a year without talking in the past, but eventually I’ll let him back in. I always do and history repeats. I’ve managed to put some distance between us at the moment. I know I have to be ruthless with people, but I do find it a real struggle when people pull at my heart strings. Sounds like you held firm and did the right thing, I need to show more strength in that regard.

Anonymous wrote:

I’m learning to handle the bad side of being an empath. This site has helped me with that too

I hope it does for me.

[Anonymous 11]

That former “friend” of mine has serious anger issues too. He has a long history of not keeping jobs very long and says f~~~ off to any authority.

He bought a new car. He never registered the tag which costs $20 a year. He made one payment on it and drove it 53000 miles with one oil change before it got repossessed for good. The first time he got it repossessed he claimed bankruptcy which kept the car in his hands for 8 more months. The court finally had enough of his s~~~ and rescinded his case.

The only time he contacts me is when he wants something from me. He makes more drama than a woman could ever hope and is a total mangina. He has stolen time from me which can never be replaced. I’m still catching up from it.

It’s tough but take baby steps to learn to become colder. Toxic people excel at finding those whose heart strings they can pull.

Anyone with any sob story needs to be kicked to the curb.

Ask yourself. Who put them there? Why is it your problem?

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Never married here no kids,and get me some pussy every now and then but always from a redpill point view meaning i protect myself and take evk.every precaution to avoid getting trap into that system that enslave men’s

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I do not know how many times i swore to my self that on going to GMOW but after listening to men that are
WHAT AN INSPIRATION !!

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Keymaster wrote:

When I was 11, I went to a private school, and was sent for an “IQ evaluation test” because some of my teachers thought I was exceptionally bright.

It turned out I am not a “genius”… but I was highly intuitive.

That’s all you have to be.

I skipped a class (got doube-promoted) just because of something like this. I think they used the word “above average”.

I think the common denominator for al of us is that we haven’t exactly “mingled” with society at large.. didn’t take up the values that they propagated.

Preacher said: “Always save the damsel from distress”
Everyone else: “Yes, Father.”
Us: “Um..okay, Father.”

a week later…..

Feminist c~~~: “A men are pigs! You stupid bags of s~~~s, we don’t need your help. All you do is oppress us and don’t let us do what we want.”

Preacher: “She’s just angry. Don’t mind her. And don’t forget to save the damsel in distress.”
Everyone else: “Yes, father.”
Us: “That damsel can go f~~~ herself!”

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s tough but take baby steps to learn to become colder. Toxic people excel at finding those whose heart strings they can pull.

Anyone with any sob story needs to be kicked to the curb.

Ask yourself. Who put them there? Why is it your problem?

So true, I think I am improving in becoming a “colder person” – its a strange thing to strive to achieve. I did enough research about borderlines to know it is absolutely neccessary to cut them out cold. You can’t show them any way back in. i’ve been very cold to my ex and she’s gone off the radar again now. I just know she’ll back again at somepoint, but i’m fully prepared to keep her out.

Anonymous wrote:

The only time he contacts me is when he wants something from me. He makes more drama than a woman could ever hope and is a total mangina. He has stolen time from me which can never be replaced. I’m still catching up from it.

My friend lives with his gf, and has done for 6 years. She’s cheated on him twice and he’s taken her back both times. i’ve told him to move out of her house and he’s agreed he needs to do that, but then he completely ignores my advice and continues to live there. he thinks she’s up to something again, but my symapthys ran out. its a like a slap in the face when you give out good advice and its just ignored, then he has the nerve to complain to to me when it goes wrong again. I helped him get the jobs he’s in, so he financially afford to live indepedantly. Some people just will not learn.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

Keymaster wrote:

MGTOW4life wrote:

Are we simply more intelligent?

When I was 11, I went to a private school, and was sent for an “IQ evaluation test” because some of my teachers thought I was exceptionally bright.

It turned out I am not a “genius”… but I was highly intuitive.

That’s all you have to be.

MGTOW4life wrote:

especially when the writing is so clearly written on the wall?

You don’t have to be brilliant to see things as they are. And you don’t need special super powers to weigh a simple cost/benefit analysis. All it takes…. is the WILL.

It’s not the answers that drive us.
It’s the QUESTION.

You don’t even need to “know”. You just need to ask the question – and question everything. Most people don’t want to know, and they don’t even question. They take things as they are presented to them.

For example, when I was about 7 (8?), I attended Sunday school…. and the pastor was talking about Adam and Eve. I spoke up and said it’s not a true story. He said with a smile “how do you know that?”. And I said, “Because in every picture….. they have belly buttons”.

That may seem like a VERY astute observation for a kid, but really it’s not. Once you know what a belly button is, anyone with an average IQ can know Eve couldn’t possibly have come from Adam’s rib. How could every artist who ever painted them have missed that MOST important detail?

Is the person who notices really a “genius”?
Or are all the artists complete morons?

Or… maybe the artists all thought WE are all idiots, and nobody will never notice!

Doesn’t matter which, as long as you question it.

Spot on.

Zero Tolerance

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Why me ? Before the “red pill” there was “inoculation”.

I had uncles and other men around me stuck on a plantation called marriage, or getting beaten up trying to escape.

I also had a lesbian cousin take me aside and give me what she called “the inoculation”. Each man we knew living the nuptial nightmare was living lesson on how the trap worked and what the women did to bait and spring the trap.

Putting holes in condoms, skipping BC pills, claiming she is infertile when no doctor ever told her that, every dirty trick her straight female friends bragged about. Before I saw “baby rabies” here I remember hearing about the “biological clock” from her, and to run from any woman who knew her’s was running down.

Marriage had changed by then, it was a legal one way street and a rigged game.

She didn’t call them “s~~~ tests” but “mind games”.

She never lived to see “Gay Marriage”, but she thought “Straight Marriage” was stupid and there was a reason why the older men of that day called it a “ball and chain”.

I didn’t get Polio not because I was smart or clever. I was protected by an inoculation.

I didn’t get sick from the toxic poison of marriage because I was inoculated. Every divorced man who spoke honestly told me she was right, to listen and learn from their mistakes.

Tradcons and Tradcucks are the “anti-vaxers” of men, trying to leave them exposed and vulnerable. MGTOW is even better than the old inoculation I had, because it can treat and cure as well as prevent.

Now call me Dr. Frank. I am here to inoculate all the young men I can, and feminist BS is sending me plenty of patients. Just look at the marriage rates plummet and listen to the tradcons and the feminists cry at even the modest little thing called the marriage strike.

And if the marriage strike scares them, the coming Wall Of Silence is going to terrify them. For they are supplying the bricks and mortar.

I think I have changed since I got here. Because I know for damn sure I am not just one man of a very few.

Frank V.

[Anonymous 22]

One reason I visit this forum often is the intelligence of the men who post here.

There are so many stupid people in the world nowadays that it’s refreshing to read intelligent posts from men who can’t be brainwashed.

[AvidAvariceParticipant 223]

I think much of it is just a desire to see things as they are.

My very blue pilled friend I grew up with comes to mind. We’re similar in many ways – we have similar mannerisms and interests, and we have lengthy discussions on societal issues. But, I simply desire to see things as they are more than he does. We were both atheists, and I once mentioned that I wish I could believe in whatever religion for the psychological benefits of believing there was a higher power supporting me, but that I couldn’t ignore the evidence before me.

Later on, he decided to convert to Christianity because, in his own words, the truth wasn’t as relevant as the feeling and state of happiness he could obtain by doing so. Doing something like that was unthinkable to me – it’s one thing for him to believe in Christianity if he finds the arguments to be sound, but is’s another to just swallow it to try to be “happy”. But I’ve come to understand that line of thinking in others more since the growth of MGTOW.

My friend is also a feminist. Go figure.

If you want the truth and nothing but the truth, you’ll find your way to MGTOW sooner or later.

[Anonymous 11]

@Joller:

Last night, I heard from a friend that the ASPD that I am erasing was seen at a bar notorious for drug use. He was hanging out with my friend’s crackhead brother. I checked my blacklist and found where he had called me both Friday and Saturday nights way after I had gone to sleep.

I am enforcing “no contact” with him. PD people require that treatment. I can’t wait to hear his sob story to try to pull on my heartstrings when he finally catches up with me. He was seen with his girlfriend who is a practicing witch, literally.

They use tricks to draw you in known as “Hoovering”. In his case, he texted me a message seen 3 days later thanks to the blacklist that some cousin sent a picture of his father to my house via US Mail. It has not arrived so I know it’s a ruse to reestablish contact with me. US Mail is very reliable no matter how much Americans complain about it.

He burns through people until they are sick of his s~~~. He then cycles through the list after he thinks the coast is clear. He can make the most innocent boyish eyes and flattery when he is making a play on you. Women tend to trip all over themselves wanting to fix him too.

I addition to making arson threats. He smashed the glass out of my convertible’s top to get revenge on me.

I can be a stone cold asshole when I need to be, but he is capable of arson. He loves revenge so I have to tread carefully yet never yield.

He’s obviously staying on my side of town. Therefore, to him I am a potential resource to be used. That is if I allow him.

[narwhalParticipant]

I think a lot of it has to do with a low ‘cost’ of making that decision. Not so much personal intelligence or traits, or what we did, but the situation we may find ourselves in through no fault of our own.

I have had conversations with married men about the nature of women from time to time, about specific topics. With few exceptions, we are in agreement. So why don’t they go MGTOW? Because it would absolutely destroy their world. Despite the crap they get from their wife, the emotional and financial loss would be huge. Even for some single guys, they have spent so much time chasing women, that the idea of giving that up is rather frightening. What would they do now? They have so much to lose, at least in their mind.

What almost all of us have in common here is that we had little to lose by jumping the old ship and getting on this one. We are the divorced, the seemingly ‘forever alone’ types, the studs who played the game long enough to see it for what it was, those who just had strong passions elsewhere, etc. Intelligence, non-conformity and such may have made that leap easier for sure, but each us would probably have stayed right where we were if the cost was too high.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 1]

@cpig – yep. i’m well versed in the different types of “hoovering” techniques. i’ve had every conceivable hoovering tactic employed against me, shaming, sympathy, fake concern for me, etc etc. Whereas i use to be vulnerable to this type of thing, i’m much more guarded to these tactics now, they’ve become so transparent, but i have to say i’m still mastering the use of complete NC.

Your ex friend sounds more dangerous than mine. He’s definitely not capable of arson and doesn’t use hard drugs. He’s still toxic, and only see’s people as exploitable. it’s difficult with him, There can be months and months of him being completely fine, before doing something really S~~~ty that leaves everyone shocked. When people act like C~~~s 24/7 its a no brainer to cut them out, but he has a subtlety about his behaviour.

I don’t have much problem identifting and avoiding toxic people these days, it’s just removing the f~~~ers were already a part of my life. PD’s never leave quietly.

[Anonymous 42]

I’ll defer this as MGTOW have a 6th sense.
We’re more in tune with things natural, and sometimes super natural. How come so many of us can “I saw it coming”? How do birds and other wildlife “see it coming”?
Do we actually cross over from intuitive guess to premonition? In my case I can say yes, yes I have seen future events in sometimes horrifying nightmares. Is it a matter of our electrical circuitry operating at the speed of light thereby entering into a time warp? I don’t have the explanations but those events are a real as my left hand. The question shouldn’t be “why us?” rather “how did we know?”.

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