Why us?

[Wandering MGHOWParticipant 551]

Have you ever thought about what it is that makes us so different? Why does it just click with us, and why do we just get it? Do our brains function at a more advanced level than the average persons? Are we simply more intelligent?

I don’t believe its because we are just a bunch of bitter men who have been put through the ringer and are now wiser because of it. First off, not all of us (myself included) have ever even been married or divorced, so that simply can’t be true for a lot of us. Secondly, even for the members here who have been taken to the cleaners by an evil ex-wife, what makes them make so wise that they actually LEARN from their past, and never make those same mistakes again? There is a big difference between us and other men. Many other men who get divorced/cheated on/put through hell willingly walk right back into the fire as if its going to be any different this time (lol). Their mindset is: “She was a bitch! The NEXT one will be different!”. I’ve heard that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results…

So what is it that makes us special? Why do we learn quicker and more efficiently than others? Why have we seen the light that all women are NAWALTS but nobody else has seen it, especially when the writing is so clearly written on the wall? Why did some of us not even need to go through traumatic experiences and are still able to see through the bulls~~~? Are we pioneers and innovators? Geniuses? As I said earlier, not all MGTOW are “bitter” from a previous divorce or traumatizing past experience, so I’d like to know what makes us all so damn awesome compared to the rest of the world.

[Anonymous 0]

Uhmmm….I think the OP means AWALT and not NAWALT.

[BrujahParticipant 579]

If anything , having a “we’re smarter than the rest of the sheep!” mentality is borderlining on narcissism so I’d steer clear of that.

I’d like to think of ourselves as simply being in a state of mind where our logic has greatly overridden anything that biologically needs to be nurtured. Phrases like Hopeless Romantics or I would do anything for love! all derive from the biological drive to mate, seek validation and companionship.

Do we really learn more quickly? In a way. It’s been a gradual build up that has started to boil over.

I mentioned a few times in this forum that I suffered alot from my own personal doubts and mental demons. The MGTOW community is a product of our time. Imagine what someone like me would have felt 10-20 years ago when going your own way was practically unheard of. I would have eventually succumbed to what my peers were encouraging me to do and that was to hook up, get hitched and settle down.

The fact that there is a voice, even if it’s muffled, is enabling men to realize that they absolutely do not have to settle for less. We aren’t learning quicker per say, people are simply becoming more aware.

A feminist would label this as a “condition” and continue to ply victimhood. Nah. We’re not scarred. We’ve adapted and evolved according.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I hold to the idea of the different brain function. Men going their own way seem to have a diminished need for conformity and a powerful bulls~~~ detector. White knights and manginas seem to posses the opposite qualities.

I am sure I was born this way. My parents did their level best to make a white knight and mangina out of me, but from the earliest age I disappointed their efforts.

Sorry, mom, dad, and society. I tried to do it your way but it just would not take. I like me the way I am. Red pill all the way!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[NerdtasticParticipant 194]

I have a friend who I introduced into MGTOW. After reading everything he only ended up being a purple pill. So i think it varies person by person by intellect nothing to do with ego or anything.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

i think is not a matter of iq, i think its a matter of a certain psychological profile.

from what i have read on this site most guys here are highly analytical, the kind of mindset a scientist or a engeneer has.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

for me, i don’t seek external validation….that has allowed me to transition from blue pill to mgtow very easily.

in addition, i use logic, I look at statistics, i examine how hormones affect our brains, and i study/think about evolution.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 1]

RoyDal wrote:

I am sure I was born this way.

Yep. I never believed the hype.

[WallstreetParticipant 63]

hellraider wrote:

i think is not a matter of iq, i think its a matter of a certain psychological profile.

from what i have read on this site most guys here are highly analytical, the kind of mindset a scientist or a engeneer has.

That is it in a nut-shell. It is the way our brains work. Hence why even now, the majority of engineers, philosophers, scientists and the like graduating from universities is still overwhelmingly men.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Most of us are probably men who have experienced deep male brotherhood.

All of my best friends have been male. Modern women think that every guy is “creepy” unless he has perfect social skills.

If women are going to treat me like a monster then I don’t need to spend my free time with them.

Feminism: A woman with nervous tics is mentally ill and needs our help. A man with nervous tics is a disgusting creep who need to f~~~ off.

Well … I did f~~~ off.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Wandering MGHOW wrote:

Are we simply more intelligent?

When I was 11, I went to a private school, and was sent for an “IQ evaluation test” because some of my teachers thought I was exceptionally bright.

It turned out I am not a “genius”… but I was highly intuitive.

That’s all you have to be.

Wandering MGHOW wrote:

especially when the writing is so clearly written on the wall?

You don’t have to be brilliant to see things as they are. And you don’t need special super powers to weigh a simple cost/benefit analysis. All it takes…. is the WILL.

It’s not the answers that drive us.
It’s the QUESTION.

You don’t even need to “know”. You just need to ask the question – and question everything. Most people don’t want to know, and they don’t even question. They take things as they are presented to them.

For example, when I was about 7 (8?), I attended Sunday school…. and the pastor was talking about Adam and Eve. I spoke up and said it’s not a true story. He said with a smile “how do you know that?”. And I said, “Because in every picture….. they have belly buttons”.

That may seem like a VERY astute observation for a kid, but really it’s not. Once you know what a belly button is, anyone with an average IQ can know Eve couldn’t possibly have come from Adam’s rib. How could every artist who ever painted them have missed that MOST important detail?

Is the person who notices really a “genius”?
Or are all the artists complete morons?

Or… maybe the artists all thought WE are all idiots, and nobody will never notice!

Doesn’t matter which, as long as you question it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 3]

I mentioned a few times in this forum that I suffered alot from my own personal doubts and mental demons. The MGTOW community is a product of our time. Imagine what someone like me would have felt 10-20 years ago when going your own way was practically unheard of. I would have eventually succumbed to what my peers were encouraging me to do and that was to hook up, get hitched and settle down.

I don’t need to imagine it, I lived it. You younger people have no idea how lucky you are.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

All great answers I am noticing. I am quite sure we are all exceptionally intelligence, intuitive, and can sense bulls~~~ a mile away. Ultimately, I think of this the same way I think of investments. Cost benefit analysis. If I do X what are my outcomes? I can spend 200 dollars on a lavish date which I am obligated to perform or put on a show so she can be impressed by my charming personality in the hopes that she lets me stick my blood engorged penis in her vagina. How much effort must be spent to do this? How many others do this? How many others live in debt to support these habits? Some people turn to prostitution and get to the point. I think there are other risks involved in that as well (not to mention you are still putting pussy on a pedestal. It is not a valuable commodity otherwise it would be traded on wall street).

So to answer the question why did we choose this? Honestly, the investment was not worth the return. I can put 200 dollars towards my happiness and get those same euphoric feelings that I would’ve gotten from getting laid. I spend it on healthy nutritious food, gym membership, and activities that bring me more pleasure than some entitled princess could ever give me. I’ve had women ask me don’t you want a partner? Sure that would be nice, but that’s not what I would get. I would get a leech. A partner to them means they supply the pussy and I do everything possible/impossible to please them. My ex wife refused to cook for weeks because it wasn’t appreciated (keep in mind she was unemployed, we had no kids, and we had an expensive house). It didn’t bother me because I know how to cook. So why did I need her? She was terrible with money. A man will pay 2 dollars for a one dollar item he needs but a woman would pay will 1 dollar for a 2 dollar item she doesn’t need. But she will insist she saved money by buying this useless product.

So now that I am relatively successful (I am still improving myself and hoping to move up really soon), I ask myself what can a woman give me that I can’t provide myself. I know how to cook, clean and can f~~~ myself way better than she ever could. The benefits of spending hard earned money to make them happy does not contribute to my happiness. In fact it gives me unnecessary stress.

Finally we all just recognize it is a raw deal. All our lives we are told we need to do more and more to get women. We also need to do more and more to make them happy. I mean the hell with our happiness, your happiness is connected to their happiness. Why else would they say, happy wife happy life? There’s no compromise. Has anyone here ever been told what women are trying to do to obtain you as a partner? Unless you’re a millionaire and above I would say no.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Luck i guess?
I too didn’t have to go trough any of this s~~~ to see it.
I kept seeing it since i was a kid.

When i was 5 years old i remember a woman talking to her 4 year old son:
“see that man, that man is a bad man.”
and the toddler repeated
“bad man!”
…
“see that boy there, that boy is bad too!”

[Anonymous 7]

Personal evolution.
People evolve at different rates, so there’s nothing for me to feel like a special snow flake about.

[Anonymous 54]

I have noticed the iq level here is very high.Intelligence doesnt make you superior.That in combinatiin with intuitiveness and independent and crittecal thinking.Am i bitter about my past,angry at times but not bitter. Im too busy enjoying life and my freedom.A child burns his hand on the stove,then touches it no more.Common sense.Question is why does the rest of the world think its great to put there hand back on the hot stove.

[13-JzzalParticipant 134]

We have the ability to question things that make us feel good and are able to follow the facts no matter how uncomfortable the truth might be.

At least that is how I got here.

[Anonymous 11]

RoyDal wrote:

Men going their own way seem to have a diminished need for conformity and a powerful bulls~~~ detector.

You nailed something here, Roy. I am a notorious non-conformist and always have been. I can sense bulls~~~ intuitively. I also have a very strong sense of self and self-preservation. Even as a blue piller, I would never let a woman ever fully control me.

My problem was that I could never not care and am still working on it. That is my red pill challenge and getting better at not caring.

I am highly empathetic which has a whole host of negatives. I sense other people’s emotions, and it stresses me badly. Being an empath also puts one at risk of attracting people with personality disorders. They sense it and use it against us. I have learned only to give it to those who are worthy thanks to having dated a Borderline.

I know a guy with Anti Social Personality Disorder. I am in the process of erasing him from my life. He’s been calling me of late, but I have him blacklisted on my phone. I know that his calling me is not for my benefit. He wants something. He threatened to torch my house after I would not let him move back in with me. I had him as a boarder and kicked him out for smoking crack. He cost me thousands of dollars in property damages and around 200 hours of what should have been my recreational time over the past two years. I am still behind on things due to losing those hours. I spent 60 hours on the decontamination of his filth in my boarding room and bringing a human caused flea infestation under control. I recently found where he pilfered my Star Wars trilogy DVDs. I am currently reconditioning an antique chest of drawers that an elderly Aunt gave me that he seriously damaged.

I am also extremely intuitive and a critical thinker from hell too. I question everything. Whatever the herd is doing, I will do the opposite.

[Anonymous 25]

I agree with Roydal and Cpig. I’ve always been very non conformist. If you look at men like Tesla and Einstein they were also non conformist and they were able to go on to achieve great things because they were good at meeting their basic human needs. That freed them up to achieve higher level needs and discover reality. Mghow show the same traits.

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

I am highly empathetic which has a whole host of negatives. I sense other people’s emotions, and it stresses me badly. Being an empath also puts one at risk of attracting people with personality disorders. They sense it and use it against us. I have learned only to give it to those who are worthy thanks to having dated a Borderline.

Sat up as I read this c-pig. This is devastatingly true of myself and has left me open to many a toxic individual. My empathetic nature has attracted more than one borderline to my life, and its caused damage.

We’ve talked on a few occasions about borderlines, and I’m always nodding in agreement when I read your words, and this is paragraph had a real impact on me.

I still show too much empathy to people I shouldn’t. What a shame it is that I have to work at becoming a colder person. Qualities that I thought make me a good person have also caused my undoing. They made me weak.

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