Why the hell would any man want kids?

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

So I was at an event last night, and there were 2 couples at the table with me.

Both men were working profesisonals who worked long hours. Both women were “Stay at home mommies” and it so happens they both had 3 kids who were all about the same ages.

Men talked about work, their pursuits, the market, industry, jobs, current events.

Guess what the women talked about? Their kids. All night. The whole night. “Oh my kids do this, my kids do that my kids are so this my kids…

All I heard was “Me me me me kids kids kids kids me me me kids kids kids me me kids me kids me me me kids kids kids kids me me me kids kids kids me me kids me kids me me me kids kids kids kids me me me kids kids kids me me kids me kids me me me kids kids kids kids me me me kids kids kids me me kids me kidsme me me kids kids kids kids me me me kids kids kids me me kids me kids” – Moms nattering on and exchanging kid stories, shopping with kids, carrying their kids, woe is me, I can barely get my yoga class in with kids…not exaclty deep topics of conversation here.

The men were talking about taking vacations to disney, and how f~~~ing miserable it was with 3 grumpy kids, up at the crack of dawn and grumpy by the middle of the afternoon. Basically both agreed their vacation was not a vacation and they were exhausted by the end of it.. The wives complained that they “never get a moment’s rest…all I have time to do is go for a workout, then I’m picking up my kid. I literally only had 30 MINUTES in my day to sit down. Even though earlier in the conversation they talked about having time to watch soap operas and ellen and s~~~ when their kids were younger. Meanwhile the men talked about working 10 – 14 hour days during busy times to support stay at home mom and 3 kids.

This exemplifies to me the differences in life. Women feel like their time is so much more valuable than the guy putting in 10-14 hours (working, coming home to see his kids, then workign a few more hours until bed). But they have the most important job in the world – STAY AT HOME MOMMY. Meanwhile I was thinking jeebus f christ, I hope I never have kids, you f~~~ers sound so cuckhold and miserable, what kind of man wants to sign up for that?

[sidecarParticipant 35851]

It doesn’t matter if a man wants kids or not, because men can’t have kids. They’re HER kids.

All men ever get is the bill.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I content that kids are a dividing point among MGTOW. I believe with a lot of guys, they don’t want kids, but once they get one, they may complain, but they wouldn’t want to get rid of them, particularly if they were married and had them. There is a lot of sunk cost thinking with that. There is a bunch of Blue Pill thinking there.

For myself, I don’t have kids, and I don’t need kids to give my life meaning. I just don’t have this and don’t get it personally. I am really in no place to be a parent either. And when I get my finances in order, I don’t see it.

I would personally like to see a good sales pitch on why it is awesome to have kids. I don’t get it myself. I keep thinking of kids as an excuse adults use to put off trying to actually DO something that makes a difference. They decide their kids would be a way for them to do things in the future (their dreams) and then their kids do the same thing. No one does their dreams, but keep thinking their kids will do their dreams.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[RoyDalParticipant]

The desire for kids is a powerful biological urge that cannot be denied, and so is keeping them alive until they are grown up enough to hunt, fish, forage, gather, and have kids of their own. This is a given.

About stay at home mommies. Bill Burr said it best. She can do her job in her pajamas. Real work is installing roofs in July heat.

About vacations, my favorites are when we spent a few days camping. Us kids could run wild in the woods. Mom and dad had nothing to do all day and saved a packet of money, even with the camper van rental fees. Places like Disneyland are now a blur, but I remember family camping trips very well.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I don’t. And I know at least two single mothers (with two children each) who wish they never had them. Ungrateful little s~~~s, is what I hear about them mostly. I’m not sure if that’s just kids being kids or if they lack a strong father figure in their lives.

I was raised by a single mother for half my life, then by my re-married father’s second wife… my dad was never much of a factor in the deal, aside from paying for everything of course… and I think I was probably an ungrateful little s~~~ in my day. Perhaps the opportunities to be s~~~ty for kids have just increased since then.

In any case, I’ve never wanted kids and don’t miss them.

[UntamedParticipant]

I never planned to have kids, I never thought about it before I had my first one, but when she was born I was hooked. I later got two more, each cuter than the last and each just as bright, inventive and imaginative. My children got me to discover things about life I would’ve never thought to look for. Their presence brings a freshness and and whole new way of looking at our world. Fatherhood is very rewarding, even when being married. Fatherhood is, to me, more rewarding than being married ( I’ll not get disagreements on this site about that ) and frankly, I would rather spend the whole day with a group of kids than two hours with a group of Weemins and menginas.
Adults can and will be a pain in the arse on purpose, they will shame you, badmouth you, gossip about you and try to ruin your day if you happen to think differently than them. Not so with children.
I was a happier dad than a content husband. Being a husband is often temporary, being a dad is for life.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[revistaParticipant 232]

As a father of 3 kids i agree on most of whats been said but have found in my experience and friends experiences women do alot of talking bout how wonderful there kids are but very little action.its very often the men are playing with the kids and doing fun stuff while the women do nothing.if you go on holiday all you see is dads in the swimming pool with kids while the woman is relaxing on a sun lounger.my kids have bought me loads of joy but its bloody hardwork.

[UntamedParticipant]

revista wrote:

As a father of 3 kids i agree on most of whats been said but have found in my experience and friends experiences women do alot of talking bout how wonderful there kids are but very little action.its very often the men are playing with the kids and doing fun stuff while the women do nothing.if you go on holiday all you see is dads in the swimming pool with kids while the woman is relaxing on a sun lounger.my kids have bought me loads of joy but its bloody hardwork.

All the weemins content themselves to do is plop ’em out and even that isn’t hard work nowadays with all the medication they pump into her in the epidural injection. Most don’t even have a participating role in making them as most weemins are fish in the sack.
Then the weemins get out of changing poopy diapers under the false pretext it makes them sick. Not as sick as what Feminism gets me.
Discipline, if nowadays weemins even know what’s that like, is again through the man. The children are warned into being “good” otherwise daddy will _____ when he comes home. My ex used to hate it when I didn’t enforce her “rules”. I’m a man, I got man-rules and I’m not upholding rules that punish children for being children.
Then there’s the play time and again, as Revista says, it’s the man who plays with the children. I never minded. I loved hearing my kids laughing and having fun, it was a welcome distraction from constantly being attacked and criticized by my “better half”
Weemins nowadays want children to be adults and bitch when a 6 y/o breaks a glass doing dishes. I’m all for teaching them but children aren’t house servants. Enough that husbands are.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

My son was a surprise, (partner at the time said she had PCOS) anywho, since he’s been around (20 months as of today actually) he has added some colour to my world. He’s quite articulate and can repeat things my family says quite easily, which has led to some funny and cute moments. I see my son twice a week and it’s an opportunity for us to play together, go to the park and meet friends (a mate of mine and his son) and because my Mum loves to spoil him with chocolate he knows to get one to bring back to Dad ;). Being separated from his Mother allows me spend quality time with him minus the BS i would have had to put up with from her had we been a couple together. Given the relatively small amount of time I spend with him means I don’t have to put in anywhere near as much labour to care for him so it’s more fun. So having a son has allowed to relive my childhood with a little friend and experience some cute and funny stuff with him.

If someone chose not to have kids I wouldn’t criticise them, it’s a personal choice and the world is already overflowing with people, many of whom have been forsaken by society, and I think it’s important for us as a species to continue, by first caring for those that are already here.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[Anonymous 9]

They saw pops coming up, and figured they could follow in his footsteps.

After all, pops was the man for a period, but that begins to fade once you hit middle and high school. Pops isn’t so cool anymore.

Also, not knowing pops was a closet alcoholic, and he was just putting on a face for most social functions.

[UntamedParticipant]

RedDawn wrote:

If someone chose not to have kids I wouldn’t criticise them, it’s a personal choice and the world is already overflowing with people, many of whom have been forsaken by society, and I think it’s important for us as a species to continue, by first caring for those that are already here.

Amen to that.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Just a ManParticipant 934]

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Men talked about work, their pursuits, the market, industry, jobs, current events.

Guess what the women talked about? Their kids. All night. The whole night. “Oh my kids do this, my kids do that my kids are so this my kids…

“Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”

Eleanor Roosevelt

This is a PROFOUND statement of truth, from a woman no less. After hearing this over 20 years ago I can attest to its accuracy.

Philosophy, the female repellent

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

Many of my friends out of high school didn’t want kids. They had accidents which turned out to be babies. Fast forward to now half of them are divorced and content while the ones who are still married look at their phone every 30 seconds to check if their wife (boss) texted. Mental imprisonment if you ask me.

Kids nowadays in the Western world are used as a bargaining chip towards your assets for the next 18 years of their life. While procreation is programmed in our psyche it does not account how many BILLIONS are in this world already…

Yes kids are fun, rewarding, etc. My last 2 relations~~~s wanted me to settle down and have kids. Sad that they couldn’t even take care of themselves or their surroundings. What made them think that they could take care of my seed?

Like poster above said credit to Bill Burr: If you can hang out in pajamas watching DVDs on the couch all day it isn’t the hardest job in the world!

[TheOneWhoBeholdsWisdomParticipant 58]

I wouldn’t want children.. and it is mostly cause of the women… I’ve seen multiple males looks like they are becoming soul deprived each day… and their wife or girlfriend that they acquired are still constantly complaining about either irrelevant subjects or just nonsense while they get fatter…

Having children seems remotely tedious now.. I’m not too worried about passing on my genes… they don’t deserve it…

Rather just be single and enjoy life till my last breath…

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

I wanted kids and that’s the only reason I got married. I’m glad I have my 2 sons. I wanted kids, boys in particular, to keep the family name going and to keep my DNA alive. At the end of it all, that’s all that matters. All the s~~~ I lost in the divorce and all the bulls~~~ I went through will be forgotten when I die. All of my possessions will be lost eventually. Only my name and DNA will continue on. Just my opinion. If I had to do it all over again, I would still have kids just not get married.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[HyperionParticipant 34]

Sometimes I think about having kids (and getting married/…weak moments…) but then I pass when remember about what I see on tv and the web and how that´s a reflect from today´s society and how f~~~ed is.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Well… I don`t think that having kids is a bad idea, not at all. Marriage is, and I know that every single men in here agree with this.

Being a father is an amazing experience. It is like having another shot in life, a shot to do everything right, through your kids.

I don’t want to shove down their throats to be this or that, but to teach them through my experiences to be better and greater than me, to carry my name and my DNA.

The world is f~~~ed up? Sure is, bu that don’t extinguish the “fire” of having a son to carry on my name.

The only thing that I regret in my entire life is not having my son with me.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Like where this discussion is going.

I personally am NOT going to have kids. I found this post by MOTHERS resenting having kids to be the catalyst for my decision: http://www.secret-confessions.com/hate/hate-being-a-mom

Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope. Never. Nope. No x 1000000000.
I will however have plenty of dogs in the future.

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

Hmm, now this is indeed a hard topic. Most of my life I never wanted children, but sometimes I think “what if…”. I think the occasional doubt can be healthy, but all-in-all I’m convinced not having any was right for me. First and foremost not because of the children themselves but of the females necessary for the birth process.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

It’s not the kids that they don’t want, it’s the c~~~ that comes with it.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

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