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  • #279324
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    Anonymous
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    By stealthiness I do not mean one of our prized member but the act of hiding your true thoughts.

    “To see who rules over you see who you are simply not allowed to criticize” – Voltaire

    Society is most likely done for, that is why being an MRA is futile but that does not mean you should give up on yourself and what you stand for.

    While I do not mean go around at your job or college saying “f~~~ feminism” and “Men are superior” unless thats your thing and your fine with being unemployed. But I do think for a healthy self confident person to exist you must express your true self to friends and new people without guilt or shame even if that guilt stems from other people than yourself.

    So if someone asks you why you are not married tell them the truth in a nice short sentence.

    “Because I want an exciting life, not a dull one”

    One way to tell if you can trust someone enough to drop redpill jokes is to lead and see if they follow or admire you for being yourself.

    Who cares about facts as an mra would, they don’t accomplish anything in this sense. If you truly believe in your lifestyle you do not need to get it validated by strangers for your facts. But you also don’t need to get validation from strangers for acting or speaking the status quo.

    “The truth is generally seen, rarely hear” Gracian

    But people will ask and it feels good to be honest.

    Acting redpill over speaking redpill but both are important. And by redpill I mean up front and truthful about everything, not just women.

    Obviously not everyones in a situation to truly be themselves at all times but find ways to fit it into your life other than on this site, with real people.

    Youll get admiration and hate, what every strong person has.

    #279330
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    Anonymous
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    I think for a healthy self confident person to exist you must express your true self to friends and new people without guilt or shame even if that guilt stems from other people than yourself.

    Brother there is a slight deviation to how I perceive this.

    MGTOW is for the man. Just himself. It’s like working out. No one needs (and wants) to know how many hours you hit the gym for. Or how much you can bench press. Least of all the fat guy.

    Given that 50% of people around you are women, you are essentially telling them they are not good enough. Wherein they take great pride and meaning in their existence by manipulating men for their own good. That’s like telling a Muslim brother something that goes against his religion.

    The remaining men around you are blue pilled and married men. The latter understands a MGTOW more than some MGTOWs in fact. But it’s too late for him to change his circumstances. He is stuck and he will hate you for living a life he could have had.

    In essence to be outspoken is merely to attract hate and discontent from people you have nothing to gain from- by convincing them one way or another. Stealth works because you grow as a man constantly. Without having to expend your time and energy in reinforcing what you believe in and then rebutting the accusations. And we have all seen how outrageous the accusations can be.

    Stealth is the way to go. The confidence thing is over-rated brother. Its an internal thing for most purposes. It’s only inflated in SMV because women desire it as a positive asset in men. It doesn’t serve a man to express confidence more than feel it WITHIN himself. Confidence is stealth.

    #279336
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    DorkShit
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    It’s tough in the real world. All you can do is try and build a relationship with one and then two. If you’re lucky you’ll find a handful at most. I don’t know how a person without the male role model does it. I was lucky to be born and raised in it.

    My father told me that the battle was lost. We are now surrounded on all sides by the tyranny of evil. Of course, he was terminal at the time he last said it and I did point out that he always had said that. He squeezed my hand and said good luck, be good.

    Peace brothers

    #279349
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    Anonymous
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    Confidence is stealth.

    Yes if that stealth leads to triumph and that all depends what your definition of triumph is.

    Being extra careful at your job or being risky at your job.

    A lot of this is situational. Depends on how important your skills are or what your personality is.

    Maybe in the metaphysical confidence is stealth even though that sounds Orwellian to me but in my opinion testosterone disagrees.

    #279350
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    Anonymous
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    I like the concept of stealthyness,but am not able to do it.How do I say this with humility..i have a very confident manly manner about my self. Not arrogant or conceeded,it’s just I’ve been thru so much it can’t be hidden. So I get attacked constantly. I don’t half to say a word,it just comes my way. I just try to avoid people.

    #279356
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    So if someone asks you why you are not married tell them the truth in a nice short sentence.

    Because I’m not gay.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

    #279358
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    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    So if someone asks you why you are not married tell them the truth in a nice short sentence.
    “Because I want an exciting life, not a dull one”

    I tend to go with “Gosh, I wish I could be as lucky as you. But it just doesn’t look like it’s in the cards for me. I guess I’ll just be stuck with traveling the world, doing what I want when I want, and bedding random 30 year old women for meaningless sex. God I envy you.”

    Sarcasm tends to get the point across pretty well.

    Order the good wine

    #279367
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    Anonymous
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    But I do think for a healthy self confident person to exist you must express your true self to friends and new people without guilt or shame even if that guilt stems from other people than yourself.

    This is the main reason I participate on the forums here.
    It’s unhealthy on a number of levels to bottle anything up.

    I’ve made the mistake of expressing my opinions about gynocentrism a few times offline and gotten into quite a bit of hot water because of it.
    The most recent time only a few weeks ago. I should have known better.

    However, not even here is a total safe haven for some members.
    About a year back “iLearn” put up a link to “The Greatest Story Never Told” that completely changed my Blue Pill matrix version of WW2.
    I’ve always been an ardent follower of modern history and there were very few new facts in the series but they were presented in a slightly different manner.
    I believe that the German men on here could suffer serious consequences if it was known they’d been rationally discussing the real dynamics and realities of WW2.

    #279377
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    Definitely feel where you’re coming from. Being honest and true with yourself, can definitely get behind that. However, I respectfully disagree with some points.

    The way I see it, what will be the results? Will this yield anything positive? The answer is usually a resounding NO. I still tell people the reason why I don’t get married. Don’t get into the nitty gritty, but it’s a semi honest answer.

    “I’ll get married if I find a girl worth marrying.”

    ^^^^^
    More or less that. The thing is, it sounds like I’m opened to the idea of marriage, but to me no woman is worth marrying. I know nothing but drama and bulls~~~ will ensue after telling somebody something like

    “Women are gold digging c~~~s who want a man for money, society greatly favors women, the courts favor women, I’ve never met a happily married man, and I’ve seen too many bad divorces that marriage has become so unappealing to me.”

    Nothing positive will come of that, you can’t convince blue pills and definitely not women. You can’t win an argument with someone who thinks you’re sub human. So that’s my take.

    But I do test the waters with red pill sayings, and I can usually pick up on other red pills. Red pill radar? And have managed to meet some other mgtow men out there.

    Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

    #279386
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    Prefer Peace to Piece
    Prefer Peace to Piece
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    Interesting topic.

    Stealthy or not?

    Depends.

    With my friends, I’m very honest about my thoughts and opinions.

    With manginas and women I try to practice stealth.
    Feminists aren’t really interested in what you have to say. You will never win a discussion with them so why bother? They are looking for an opportunity to verbally assault you. Why waste time arguing with them when you could be doing something fun? Particularly in the workplace, silence is golden.

    Let the feminists rant, rave, complain and march up and down.

    I’ll be on the golf course or on the beach.

    #279388
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    Anonymous
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    With manginas and women I try to practice stealth.
    Feminists aren’t really interested in what you have to say. You will never win a discussion with them so why bother? They are looking for an opportunity to verbally assault you. Why waste time arguing with them when you could be doing something fun? Particularly in the workplace, silence is golden.

    Let the feminists rant, rave, complain and march up and down.

    Definitely. This is not even about arguing because I would never go out of my to speak with a feminist. Its about not feeling guilty by your words and not acting differently because of others, by force.

    A lot of this is situational but you can always avoid an argument by stating something and saying you are done with this conversation.

    #279391
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    Anonymous
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    LOL Stealthy’s Doctrine is being challenged ? Can’t wait to see his answer.

    Stealthy will show us he’s the King of stealth by not responding. He’s out in his garden. No f~~~s given!

    #279395
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    Antipathy
    Antipathy
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    Sometimes going ghostmode or stealth is the most wise thing you can possibly do. I only go boldmode when i am forced to. It takes a lot of energy to go bold and stay bold. Because they are feeding you lines of script from their brain, your brain has to decode their madness, then it has to respond with its own script. Most of the time i end up taking detours just to stay away from people. If they try to get in my business i’ll jam them with a work related comment, and then try to act like I’m extremely busy.

    #279429
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    OldBill
    OldBill
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    Choosing stealthiness is merely choosing how to spend your finite time and energy. Every man’s choice falls along a spectrum between total openness and total stealthiness. That choice is neither binary nor permanent.

    As you become more and more open, you expend more and more time and energy defending yourself and dealing with the fallout. As you become more and more stealthy, you can concentrate more on yourself, your needs, and your goals. Where you choose to act will depend on the time and place of that choice.

    All our brother Went Camping/Code Bunker suggests it that we go against our social conditioning and “err” towards stealthiness when making decisions. He’s suggesting that we choose “productive selfishness” more often. He’s not suggesting that we become hermits.

    Go your own way but never forget that your have a finite amount of energy and time. Choose how you expend those finite amounts wisely.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #279440
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    The_Mad_Pirate
    The_Mad_Pirate
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    A local radio has a resident comedian that does nothing else but Tell redpill jokes, and while most radio hosts are a bunch of bluepill manginas they laugh with this jokrd because, i think, deep down, they know this jokes tell the truth about women.

    "We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

    #279446
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    Anonymous
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    So women now just ARE and I wish them well like a polite grandfather from the greatest generation.

    I have often emphasized that mgtow men are who treat women EQUALLY. How feminism wants it to be. We are the real feminists if equality is what they seek. But somehow shoving the cupcakes off of their pedestal is misogyny because they realize what equality is like in real life. Without vagina-mony.

    #279448
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    Anonymous
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    Choosing stealthiness is merely choosing how to spend your finite time and energy. Every man’s choice falls along a spectrum between total openness and total stealthiness. That choice is neither binary nor permanent.

    As you become more and more open, you expend more and more time and energy defending yourself and dealing with the fallout. As you become more and more stealthy, you can concentrate more on yourself, your needs, and your goals. Where you choose to act will depend on the time and place of that choice.

    All our brother Went Camping/Code Bunker suggests it that we go against our social conditioning and “err” towards stealthiness when making decisions. He’s suggesting that we choose “productive selfishness” more often. He’s not suggesting that we become hermits.

    Go your own way but never forget that your have a finite amount of energy and time. Choose how you expend those finite amounts wisely.

    Yeah, this. Great post.

    #279455
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    The_Mad_Pirate
    The_Mad_Pirate
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    The most expensive woman is the one that doesn’t charges for her services.

    "We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

    #279472
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    Anonymous
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    Yes I agree it is not black and white. I think be red pill as much as you can without it interfering with important things in your life.

    And do it because it is you and you are around people you trust not to start some argument with someone.

    If it is a feminist or mangina dont expect any reaction except a shrill yell. Which all of us know

    #279533
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    K
    Hitman
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    be this…

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