why pua's are losers

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  • #255453
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    Keymaster
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    So at least to gynocentric minded people, the real me comes across as an asshole for the most part.

    Same here. Just tell it straight and “be yourself” – with no adjustments …. and even a basic “no” will make you an asshole.

    I LOVE it. Work that s~~~.

    The “just be yourself” recommendation coming from a woman is as lame as it gets. It actually means “please make it as easy as possible for me to figure you out”. She wants you to “relax” but she’s actually interrogating you and wants you to slip up. You might say “I’m allergic too cats”, and she will freak out and say “WHOAH!!! You don’t like kitty cats?” and use it as an excuse not to have sex with you.

    So when she starts with:

    • “So where do you work?”.
    • “So where do you live?”.
    • “So what kind of car do you drive?”

    Never just “be yourself”.

    “So where do you work?”.

    “I’m an astronaut (point to the sky). You see that? That’s my office.”.

    “Really?”.

    “No.”.

    Who the f~~~ would ever want to “be yourself” around a woman and answer those stupid, boring, predictable & annoying questions? It’s far more entertaining to play around with her. Not more entertaining for HER… but for YOU.

    “Myself” would just tell her to shut the f~~~ up because I’m hip to her jive.
    She definitely doesn’t want that.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #255462
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    Anonymous
    42

    So what do you do?

    I’m a bwane surgeon, wanna see my scars? <tilts head parts hair>

    #255464
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    Anthony
    Anthony
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    he “just be yourself” recommendation coming from a woman is as lame as it gets. It actually means “please make it as easy as possible for me to figure you out”.

    I’ve always hated that line from women. When it comes from women, you know “just be yourself” means “just be a complete mangina and pander to her needs.”

    Who the f~~~ would ever want to “be yourself” around a woman and answer those stupid, boring, predictable & annoying questions? It’s far more entertaining to play around with her. Not more entertaining for HER… but for YOU.

    It is far more entertaining. I could tell that even when I was a kid, I never wanted kids. And I’ve always had to repeat that s~~~ to the women and men in my family ever since I could remember. They’re always surprised when I tell them that. They think I’ll eventually change my mind also. Which is just funny as hell to watch.

    If I were to be myself 24/7, most people wouldn’t even want to talk to me about most things. Which is all good in my book, because I’d rather avoid talking about anything other than work to most people to begin with.

    Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

    #255469
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    Anonymous
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    I’ve always hated that line from women. When it comes from women, you know “just be yourself” means “just be a complete mangina and pander to her needs.”

    Keymaster

    That quote makes any respectable man, cringe. It doesn’t actually mean anything at all.

    #255477
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    OldBill
    OldBill
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    I think PUAs fail because they are so hungry for validation in everything from other people, namely women.

    THIS.

    PUAs and all the other types of Pussy Beggars don’t do anything just for themselves. They have no internal motivation. Their reasons for doing anything at all only exists outside of themselves.

    Even worse, they all too often fake abilities and accomplishments because faking those things may help them beg for pussy.

    They don’t lift and exercise because both are good for their long term health. Instead, they lift and exercise because it may help them beg for pussy.

    They don’t learn other languages as a way to expand their minds, perceptions, or knowledge. Instead, they learn other languages because it my help them beg for pussy.

    They don’t learn how to be good conversationalists in order to become interesting, thoughtful men other people enjoy meeting. Instead, they fake it by employing a few verbal tricks because it may help them beg for pussy.

    Despite bettering one’s self is a goal any man should continually strive towards, they don’t actually better themselves in any meaningful way. Instead, they fake it and go through the motions of bettering themselves because it may help them beg for pussy.

    Rather than learning to live and grow as a human being, they’re stumbling through the only life they’ll get frantically reading Cliff Notes and other cheat sheets because they hope that will help them pretend they’ve accomplished something instead of making to effort to actually accomplish something.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #255478
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    Anonymous
    11

    Today, I’m making money decrpyting files for a ransomware victim(20% discount off of ransom fee 😉 ) instead of paying some PUA guru to teach me how to bulls~~~ women. My personality does not mesh with PUA. I’m not comfortable with presenting a false front.

    Once mastered, PUA is very effective. Women are attracted to steaming piles of bulls~~~ like flies to a freshly dropped steaming pile of it. The things my Chad friend will say to get inside their heads makes me want to vomit.

    I have to be true to myself. If the real me will not mesh with some random c~~~’s fantasy, I simply don’t give a f~~~. Women don’t really appreciate real hard working honest men.

    Seeking validation from women leads to having a court transfer all of your real property to her. They are all potential cobras and treat them as such.

    #255493
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    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
    Participant
    22574

    PUAs prove that even men can fall into the destructive cycle of personal validation through sex with other people.

    #255518
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    Bobphilo
    bobphilo
    Participant
    1772

    I once had a friend who read every book on how to pickup women and put it into practice wherever we went in public. Total embarrassment. That’s why he’s an ex-friend. None of his relationships lasted anyway.
    Who the hell wants to be with a woman who doesn’t want the real me. I’m not acting like a phony or bad boy asshole for anybody.

    #255523
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    Bobphilo
    bobphilo
    Participant
    1772

    So at least to gynocentric minded people, the real me comes across as an asshole for the most part.

    Same here. Just tell it straight and “be yourself” – with no adjustments …. and even a basic “no” will make you an asshole.

    I LOVE it. Work that s~~~.

    The “just be yourself” recommendation coming from a woman is as lame as it gets. It actually means “please make it as easy as possible for me to figure you out”. She wants you to “relax” but she’s actually interrogating you and wants you to slip up. You might say “I’m allergic too cats”, and she will freak out and say “WHOAH!!! You don’t like kitty cats?” and use it as an excuse not to have sex with you.

    So when she starts with:

    • “So where do you work?”.
    • “So where do you live?”.
    • “So what kind of car do you drive?”

    Never just “be yourself”.

    “So where do you work?”.

    “I’m an astronaut (point to the sky). You see that? That’s my office.”.

    “Really?”.

    “No.”.

    Who the f~~~ would ever want to “be yourself” around a woman and answer those stupid, boring, predictable & annoying questions? It’s far more entertaining to play around with her. Not more entertaining for HER… but for YOU.

    “Myself” would just tell her to shut the f~~~ up because I’m hip to her jive.
    She definitely doesn’t want that.

    Why bother to go to all this trouble? I’m not interested in playing any kind of games with women. Playing games of any kind with women is antithetical to the whole idea of going your own way. I will be myself because that’s who I am. I’m not playing the asshole for anybody.
    I stay away from tigers (unless they’re behind a partition) but I don’t go around teasing them. That’s just sadistic.

    #255526
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    Tic
    Tic
    Participant
    4329

    This whole pick up artist bulls~~~ is so pathetic. Essentially, you’re begging for pussy, but, in a very self-deluded way that makes you think you’re some alpha. Real men achieve. We strive, fail, pick ourselves up, keep going, and build value for ourselves. Value creates true inner confidence, and that is real. And, women are attracted to that. So, instead of faking it with this PUA bulls~~~, I say go your own way and build value. It’s the best route to true fulfillment. God knows, I have learned this the hard way.

    God bless peace and freedom.

    #255529
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Why bother to go to all this trouble? I’m not interested in playing any kind of games with women. Playing games of any kind with women is antithetical to the whole idea of going your own way.

    I understand that fully. But I happened to think that interacting with women is dull , uninteresting and bland for the most part, so I will actually make MYSLEF laugh and have some fun in the process or I’ll just “be myself” and be an abject asshole.

    EXAMPLE:

    “How was your weekend?”

    “myself” would want to respond “None of your f~~~ing business, I hate small talk and I don’t speak about my personal life at work.”

    EXAMPLE #2

    “So where do you work?”

    “myself” would want to respond “Why don’t you just come out and ask how much money do I make because that’s what I know you’re asking, you gold digging stalker whore.”

    So, I will adjust my response.
    Not to please HER, but entertain & amuse myself.

    “I’m an astronaut” is my stock response when any woman I just met wants to know what I do for a living. I let her think it’s true, and when she asks “REALLY???”, I smile and tell her not really ( which is hilarious ) , and she never gets an answer to her question after all.

    If I didn’t do that, I would snatch the phone out of her hand, type in M G T O W . C O M, hit return and say “satisfied”?

    I know better than to answer a woman’s questions directly.
    Thats’s not playing games…….. it’s WINNING games.

    It’s beating women at their OWN game – before she can even start.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #255540
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    Killmandrill
    Killmandrill
    Participant
    497

    PUA´s are sexual sell-outs, pretending, holding frame, getting s~~~-tested, wasting tons of energy, patience, fueled and drugged by the smell of pussy… f~~~ addicts.
    If they`re “weak”, I don´t know, but definitely they´re wasting their time and money for the imagination of being wanted.

    Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

    #255541
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    Anthony
    Anthony
    Participant
    2281

    “myself” would want to respond “None of your f~~~ing business, I hate small talk and I don’t speak about my personal life at work.”

    If we could say anything we wanted to without causing all kinds of drama and uproar, especially at work, I’d say exactly that. I hate small talk as it is.

    Whenever women try to start a conversation, it always starts out as small talk. Every time they do, I just want to tell them to “f~~~ off.”

    This is why I love talking to the members on this website more. Most of the time, “small talk.” doesn’t even come up here.

    Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

    #255546
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Whenever women try to start a conversation, it always starts out as small talk. Every time they do, I just want to tell them to “f~~~ off.”

    I took care of a dog for a week while a friend was on vacation. Really nice looking dog too. This woman started the conversation with me, because of a dog. “What’s his name?” she said.

    I said….. “Are you serious?? Why would you want to know a DOG’s name before another human’s (or the owner’s ) name?”

    I actually had to ask her that question before she realized how insane she was. And then she asked me my name, and I’m thinking “lol I don’t want to know you at all. Go away. Crazy bitch.”

    Is that the weirdest opener you ever heard?
    “WHATS YOUR DOG’S NAME?”

    It’s not even my dog!

    Been (lmao) laughing about this to myself ever since.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #255552
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    Experienced
    experienced
    Participant

    “why pua’s are losers”

    because their target/goal = women

    women = “give me everything………………….I’m not happy”

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #255564
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    Killmandrill
    Killmandrill
    Participant
    497

    Most of the time, “small talk.” doesn’t even come up here.

    One expects small talk (somebody signals interest) and it leads to something like this:

    “WHATS YOUR DOG’S NAME?”

    Here some examples of my impressions of “small talk”:
    She was watching me preparing a drink, standing next to me cleaning her glas in the sink (at a party)

    Her: “What`s that drink?”
    Me: “Cider and coke”
    Me: turning around and leaving

    That girl was after me for hours, laughing out loud when I said something funny being 10 meters away. All she was able to formulate was that? I expect a little more! /s

    On another occasion,
    Me sitting on a bed at party (stoned and drunk yet in control), girl approaches me, sits down next to me. She was totally wasted, drunk and what else. Her eyeb~~~~ were playing flipper.

    Her: “Are you an artist or a musician?”
    Me: “Neither of both”
    Me: Getting up from the bed and leaving

    How are you supposed to reply to this, how are you to expect to have a nice and interesting conversation after such a humble intro? /s

    The latter girl is now married to a friend and they have kids… they met on the same party, after I left her sitting on the bed fighting with consciousness.

    Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

    #255574
    +2
    Total Lee
    Total Lee
    Participant
    1573

    Results are in. The losers in this game are neither mgtow nor the puas. The losers are women who propped up their value to crazy heights, lowering themselves to phenomenal depths, and all while pretending men should even bother competing for women at all.

    #255577
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    How are you supposed to reply to this, how are you to expect to have a nice and interesting conversation after such a humble intro?

    The people who need help in the pick up department are women. They are s~~~ at it and don’t even care to improve. S~~~ at flirting. S~~~ at converting. No social skills with their f~~~ing phones. Its’ a disaster.

    Women are THE WORST pick up artists of all time. She can like a guy for years and nothing will ever happen.

    I have also had a useless rag doll in the car next to me who was so out of it, she didn’t even bother to try and stay awake. I dropped her at her doorman and said “she’s your problem now”.

    No matter how lame the PUAs are, men everywhere actually make a conscious effort to fix things and try and see what works. The only thing a woman thinks she needs to is show up, order in restaurants and spend a man’s money.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #255579
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    Killmandrill
    Killmandrill
    Participant
    497

    That video. “Desperate” would be understated.

    Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

    #255585
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    Anthony
    Anthony
    Participant
    2281

    I said….. “Are you serious?? Why would you want to know a DOG’s name before another human’s (or the owner’s ) name?”

    Haha, women who open with that line are just asking to not to be taken seriously. If I wanted to know a dog’s name or something about a dog, I’d ask the owner’s name beforhand. Women don’t even have the common courtesy to do that.

    The people who need help in the pick up department are women. They are s~~~ at it and don’t even care to improve. S~~~ at flirting. S~~~ at converting. No social skills with their f~~~ing phones. Its’ a disaster.

    Women don’t even ask a man out. And even when they do, their “pick up lines” are really f~~~ing s~~~ty. Like the women in this video:

    Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

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