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Smitty the Great One 4 years, 9 months ago.
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Hello guys!
After talking with some people out there (friends and family) I noticed how whenever I say “I really don´t want to be with any woman” everyone tells me “You say that because you are angry” Wtf? Or something close to that. It´s like everyone assumes your feelings were hurt and you are talking without thinking and being angry.
I’m not.
This is the first time that I am using my brain instead of my dick to select women.
Why people think that? Why they think we are angry instead of thinking we are trying to do the best for ourselves?
It bothers me a little that we are seen as the bitter ones.
Did this happened to anyone here?
Talking to other people is generally worthless about most subjects. Particularly “normal” people who are deathly afraid to have an opinion contrary to whatever is currently popular.
I agree with Rasputin, and I want also add, in total sincerity: an year ago I feeled angry and also disappointed by females. But now I do not feel so: I now feel happy and clear, and above all serene: I feel as if I had taken a weight off my soul and off my life. I feel free, now. Every time I hear my wife on the phone, I answer to her request playing the part of the female (I learned the trick!!!) and she’s disappointed 🙂 and by so she never obtain nothing 🙂 and also, for me, to hear my wife at the phone almost every day is more than enough to renew my willingness to stay away from other females 🙂
Stupidity makes me angry, it’s my pet peeve, and women continuously do stupid things.
I just can’t help it 🙁I get angry when men are stupid as well.
Doesn’t matter if a girl or guy is j-walking without looking, i’ll still drive right up to them and rev my engine as loud as i can in an attempt to teach them a lesson.Now… Why “people” think that MGTOWs are just a bunch of angry boys, is because they are in complete denial. You have to remember, that women avoid taking responsibility AT ALL COSTS.
So rather than thinking that a group of straight men who don’t want relationships with women are perfectly sane, they rather think of them as being a bunch of little angry boys as they can not coupe with the possibility of themselves being imperfect, or rather them being the reason for MGTOW.My Goal: To Leave Society.
<cite>@ignis said:</cite>
After talking with some people out there (friends and family) I noticed how whenever I say “I really don´t want to be with any woman” everyone tells me “You say that because you are angry” Wtf? Or something close to that. It´s like everyone assumes your feelings were hurt and you are talking without thinking and being angry.You’re being told you’re ‘angry’ and/or (insert shaming here) because you’re not playing by society’s rule. Hell, you’re not playing at all. You’ve been lied to your entire life that marriage is the cure to loneliness when in reality it’s the disease of imprisonment. Women tell you this because it’s revenue she can’t get or she can her single friends with. Guys do it because most plue bill idiots an PUA’s base their entire existence on how much ass the pull. When you don’t care, it makes their achievements useless. Hence the constant shaming form mangina’s, white knights and PUA’s.
Secondly, everyone gets hurt. Our experiences affect who we are. Hurt a dog enough times, eventually it will turn on you. Passive aggressive acceptance of evil is not a virtue. According to the blue pill world, you should just be beaten and whipped and hurt and keep coming back for more and like it. Who cares about you’re happiness. Last time I checked, nobody likes getting their feelings hurt.
Women think their vagina and company is the single most thought after thing in the f~~~ing cosmos and the gears lock up when you tell them “do not want”.
This is the first time that I am using my brain instead of my dick to select women.
This will help some but you still need to avoid marriage and living with a woman. When men stop thinking with our dicks completely, women are going to be SOL. Proceed with caution my friend.
Why people think that? Why they think we are angry instead of thinking we are trying to do the best for ourselves?
For most men, pussy is paramount. For most women, as we all know, material gain is their MO. Hopefully enough shaming from Hollyweird and the media will browbeat you into this way of thought. If not, hence the disbelief when you resist.
It bothers me a little that we are seen as the bitter ones.
1. Never give a single f~~~ what people say. Especially women who don’t have your best interests in mind.
2. Remember number one (the rule and yourself).Did this happened to anyone here?
All the time, but since I’m the king of not giving a f~~~, no problem. That is MGTOW zen.
Life is for my own to live my own way Escape by Metallica.
Fuck this planet.They can’t provide a counter argument with any substance so they try to explain away your viewpoint with some textbook opinion.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.My traditional Indian Parents try all sort’s of things to make me get an arrange marriage. After five years of listing to them, I learned one thing, people are conditioned to having their way. if they don’t get there way, they get mad or shame you for not fitting in.
You need grow think skin and not give a F*ck about what people think of you. They don’t care about you, they only care that you follow their commands. Think of people like children who want to get your attention for stupid reasons, only thing you can do is ignore them.
Yes, sincerely I think we, as MGTOW, should avoid a directly confrontation of our ideas against the popular idea – our idea is, now, too revolutionary for the major part of people. Our idea is about freedom, and many people really don’t like freedom, especially misandrists and their manginas’ slaves.
I’m HAPPY to have been married, because, thanks to this SACRIFICE, now I know the truth, pure and simple, and I don’t need to discuss it with ignorant and opinionated manginas or aspiring slaves.I guess I’m lucky I had one aunt told me that’s ok not to get married. She told me about her son’s friends that were married. How they only cared about money, expensive gifts etc. The marriages ended and they didn’t even bother trying to clean their men out they just went on and to look for new victims.
My father told me several years ago that I was a loser because my step cousin got married and he’s physically handicap. My father told me you can’t even do what he did. Then the time I visit him he tells me that the guy’s wife left him for another guy. PAWNED!
I always ignored my father when he tried to get me married. I never told him what I think and such.
Next time your family or friends say you’re angry. You tell them F~~~”IN right I’m ANGGRRRY! You dummies can’t even see what’s going on with men around the world. Men being cleaned out financially, being putting in jail for false domestic abuse, etc. Yes I’m f~~~’in angry and the more you bring up this s~~~ I get f~~~’in ANGRY. I’m angry because you’re f~~~’in clueless bunch of morons. You live your life and mind your own business. What I do or don’t do is nothing of your concern.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
I think the majority of men when they take the red pill are angry. We get angry because we finally see the world for what it is and how it views us, as disposable commodities. We naturally feel angry at not only the treatment but at those who refuse to see i, those who will die never waking up and fulfilling their full potential. That is just the surface it never ends. Everyday after your awakening you see injustices everywhere, and it does not seem to stop. Everyday I see, read, or experience something new and it will rekindle this angry feeling. I believe that anger is important after taking your first red pill to help keep the fire going and to temper your resolve against those trying to break you down. But anger itself is a poison that will eventually destroy you if you hold onto it for to long. Kind of off topic sorry.
I agree with Cap285 though. He hit the nail on the head.
Jam Bear is right on Point!
Look…this is not original…but I hijacked a concept developed by the Late Great Death & ‘Getting Over your Goddamn Pain” theorist Elizabeth Kubler Ross. Yes…She is a Female…don’t shoot the muthaf~~~in’ Messenger…Get the message where it’s at.
There are Five (5) Muthaf~~~in’ stages a Vanilla muthaf~~~a goes through when he is undergoing a life-changing situamaation (i.e. Bitches ain’t shiet, Dating will fruck you up, Marriage is f~~~shiet, Divorce lawyers ain’t shiet). These stages aren’t meant to be a complete list of all the Bullshiet you might feel and can occur in any order. Remember: Every Muthaf~~~a is different.
Sister Ross refers to these stages as DABDA:
- Denial— As the reality of loss is hard to face, one of the first reactions to follow the loss is Denial. The person is trying to shut out the reality or magnitude of his/her situation, and begins to develop a false, preferable reality. Example: “Yeah, she left me for that rich muthaf~~~in’ heart surgeon, but there are still some good women out there for me.”
- Anger— Once in the second stage, the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue. Because of anger, the person is very difficult to care for due to misplaced feelings of rage and envy. The person in question can be angry with himself, or with others, or at a higher power, and especially those who are close to them. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: “Why the Fruck me? It’s not fair!”; “I was I SOFA KING Stoo Pid?”
- Bargaining— The third stage involves the hope that the individual can somehow undo or avoid a cause of grief. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek to negotiate a compromise. Example: “Maybe I can date women again and not move so fast.” “Can we still be friends?” NOTE: Bargaining rarely provides a sustainable solution. Dumb fruck.
- Depression— “I’m so sad, why bother with anything? Why can’t I get married again…boo-the fruck hooooo”;
During the fourth stage, the grieving person begins to understand the certainty of Life is fruck up. Things begin to lose meaning to the griever. Because of this, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time crying and sullen. This process allows the grieving person to disconnect from things of love and affection, possibly in an attempt to avoid further trauma. Depression could be referred to as the dress rehearsal for the ‘aftermath’. It is a kind of acceptance with emotional attachment. It is natural to feel sadness, regret, fear, and uncertainty when going through this stage. Feeling those emotions shows that the person has begun to accept the situation. Oftentimes, this is the ideal path to take, to find closure and make their ways to the fifth step, Acceptance. - Acceptance— In this last stage, individuals begin to come to terms with things. Example: “I can go at it all by myself”. This typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable mindset. Or a celebratory “Money over Hoes.” Fruck Bitches.
I had a friend who was a girl. Let’s call her Beatrice. She was not my “girlfriend” but we spent a lot of time together and I knew her for many years. She was not an interest and it was mutual. She was just a chick and we hung out. There was no white knighting or orbiting bulls~~~. Beatrice and I just had coffee, and went to movies, and hung out after work sometimes.
But when my real “girlfriend”(s) and I broke up, I told her about it.
And I told her about the NEXT break up too.
… and the next one.
… and the next one.There was no MGTOW anywhere. But I knew there was something wrong with THEM.
THEY were bitches. THEY were crazy. THEY were selfish and thoughtless.When I told Beatrice this, she always said the same thing: “you’re just bitter”.
• “You’re just bitter”.
• “You’re just meeting women in the wrong places”.
• “You have issues with women”.’
• “You sound angry”.
• “You hate women.”This never sat well with me. She didn’t know my girlfriends at all, but when I told her about their negative behavior, it was ALWAYS my problem. There was always something wrong with ME. One girl broke something of mine (which cost $440), and she laughed when she said “sorry”. She didn’t even offer to replace it. When I explained I have to work and earn $2000 to be able to buy something for $440 after all expenses, she said “you’re really scaring me right now”. Beatrice thought I was unreasonable too, and she defended the girlfriend who she never even met!
Never once did she understand my anger or say “gee that sucks, really? She did that? You should totally dump her.” She didn’t know any of them, but she took their side, and I was always the bad one. I was always wrong. I was “just bitter”. I have “issues”….
And then I saw this on a website called “exposing feminism”:
Well, I just fell back in my chair. Suddenly I understood everything about Beatrice. Now I knew. Whenever I was displeased with a girl for a GOOD REASON – women were always saying exactly the same f~~~ing s~~~ over, and over, and over again. It is a DEFLECTION to avoid accepting responsibility for their own s~~~ty second-class behavior.
“You’re just bitter”.
NO. I’m not JUST bitter. I’m f~~~ing P~~~ED and want my $440 bucks back, you f~~~ing bitch. Then you laugh when you apologize? And when I point this out, you pretend it’s MY problem? Nice try. F~~~ you. WRONG. I’m not “just bitter”. YOU are a f~~~ing thoughtless c~~~.
How do you like that. Only a person with no sense of right or wrong would NOT be angry.
Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice.
The passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.
After reading all the shamming tactics and understanding where they come from, I realized how many years I wasted treating Beatrice like a friend. She was not a friend. She was the f~~~ing enemy and she was against me the whole time. She was totally feminized and I had no idea how f~~~ed up in the head she was. It wasn’t even her fault! She was just brainwashed and cruising through life – running on empty – like every f~~~ing ignorant SexAndTheCity bitch born in the last 50 years.
Years later, Beatrice was left at the altar by her fiancee who changed his mind about marrying her at the last minute. She was so upset and came to me for comforting. Of course I was there, because as a Man, I have empathy and compassion for other people, and can put myself in other people’s shoes – until she said “he is bi polar”. After all this time, she was STILL blaming the man. He was bipolar. Nothing wrong with her. She was just perfect. He was bipolar. Right up until the wedding day she had no problem with him being bipolar, then when hen leaves her, he’s sick and bipolar.
NO bitch. He wasn’t bipolar. He just didn’t want to marry you. Accept it.
I wouldn’t either. But instead of telling her the truth, I said “you’re just bitter”.• “You’re just meeting men in all the wrong places”.
• “You have issues with men”.’
• “You sound angry”.
• “You hate men.”And I really,really enjoyed watching her in pain for being deserted as she was. Her suffering was a nice payback. I don’t blame that guy for not marrying her at all! He absolutely did the right thing! Inside, I knew all of this. And you should too.
@ignis When they say: “you sound angry”. You tell them with a smile:
Only an idiot would NOT be angry. What’s your point?When they say: “you have issues”. You tell them with a smile:
A man could have an “issue” with the smell of dog s~~~ too. It doesn’t mean there is anything wrong with HIM.You rub their own behavior right in their faces and FORCE them to pay for their own screw ups.
It’s not going to be YOUR problem anymore.It’s not YOUR problem.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Guys! So much feedback.
I will try to answer to all of you because everyone deserve a response.
This just showed me how supportive everyone around here is, I am really glad to have found this site.
I´ll try to be more present when someone asks for help or opinions.
@eric Lauder
You are right, I always knew that there are somethings that certain people can´t understand yet. I will try to explain less about my behaviour to others.
@HotNoob
I will remember that: “Women try to avoid responsability at all costs”
Thank you.
When I said “I use my head instead of my dick” I forgot to tell that I WONT marry , NOR DO I WANT A RELATIONSHIP . I dont even want to f~~~. If a woman approaches and grabs my c~~~ I will have no problem in f~~~ing her. But I will never do anything anymore to be with them. I don´t need to search for their company since they give nothing in return. If a girl convince me with actions that this isn´t true I will gladly accept her, but still will keep my eyes open.
I repeat: I WONT marry NOR DO I WANT A RELATIONSHIP. I will not tolerate anymore bulls~~~ from them. I am tired. They are simply not worth it.
I´ll do my best to not give a f~~~.
@ChaosOverAll
What you said is epicly acuratte.
I will ray. I will think that they are children. Brainwashed children that didn´t stop to think for a second what they really want.
Now that I think of it, children are better and more sincere with themselves.
@CrazyCanuck
Lol. I will. They should know that bulls~~~ makes people angry.
You´re right.
When I discovered the truth I was sad. Then I was f~~~ing p~~~ed. And now I really don´t care. My goals, friends and ambitions are more important than spoiled little princesses.
Same thing I said to jambear. Thank you for that detailed explanation.
Everything you said. Everything, happened to me. (and I am sure that most men here have suffered the same s~~~)
It is certainly amazing how this works. It is a machine. The process repeats everywhere. I live in another country, speak another language and still the SAME S~~~ HAPPENS HERE.
Women are so blind and ugly on the inside. They can´t even be friends with us, much less with other women.
I will do what you said. I will love to answer with a big smile on my face. Because now I know the truth, and the wall of lies falls apart before me.
All the problems a man of this time and age goes through, just for a piece of wet meat…I am a bit cynical, so for me, this is hilarious.Thanks again, to all of you.
I discovered the truth less than a month ago and I am already feeling complete again, just like when I was a kid:
Me and my ambitions first
My friends and family
My toys
And at the bottom, almost outside of the list: WomenI will never forgive this…
Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice.
The passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.Only a picture perfect dumb ass would equate anger with refusing to chase women.
Why people think that? Why they think we are angry instead of thinking we are trying to do the best for ourselves?
Could it be they are projecting their own mental state upon you? That is my guess. It’s a common enough trait, and it’s epidemic among the blue pill set.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
@ignis:
“I WONT marry , NOR DO I WANT A RELATIONSHIP . I dont even want to f~~~. If a woman approaches and grabs my c~~~ I will have no problem in f~~~ing her. But I will never do anything anymore to be with them. I don´t need to search for their company since they give nothing in return. If a girl convince me with actions that this isn´t true I will gladly accept her, but still will keep my eyes open.”Holy words, bro, I agree about all. It’s exact the same for me.
@Zuberi Tau: the matter is that many people, especially females, thinks that for a MAN to chase females is a duty – my answer to these people is “GO TO HELL! I’M A FREE PERSON, AND I HAVEN’T THAT SPECIAL DUTY! YOU HAVE TO PASS ANOTHER SPECIAL LAW IF YOU WANT THAT FROM ME! A law that makes mandatory for MEN to chase females!!!”
Then, when and if a similar law will pass, I’ll think to a way to avoid it…. 🙂 and for sure I’ll find the way… I hate dictatrixships…. 🙂IN FACT, EVERY TIME I AVOID FEMALES AND I DO NOT COURTSHIP FEMALES, I FEEL MYSELF EMPOWERED, I FEEL I’M SCREWING AND F~~~ING THE WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM!!!
AND FOR ME SUCH TRANSGRESSIVE FREEDOM IS MUCH BETTER THAN F~~~!!!First your angry.
Then you learn.
Then you heal.
Then you live.Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
Being told that you are angry by the gynocentric society is a combination of guilt tripping, shaming tactic and projection designed to make you conform.
As a MGTOW, what you should do in the face of that is give the middle finger and walk away whistling.
Anonymous25Anger is an appropriate response to injustice.
Anger is a feeling. It’s a feeling that motivates a person to take action. If the anger motivates a person to punch another person in the face then that is not an appropriate response. If the anger motivates a person to assertively and eloquently say something is wrong and ask for it to stop, then that is an appropriate response.
Anger is not bad, it’s how you choose to respond and act that decides. Mgtow is an appropriate response to injustice. It is saying “if you do not treat me and my gender with respect, then go away because I do not want to associate with you”. MY LIFE MY CHOICE.
Naysayers want to define you with easy to throw out terms that are meant to put you on the defensive, as if you have anything that needs to be defended or explained.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.- AuthorPosts
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