Why MGTOW doesn't work as a brotherhood

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

As I hang around MGTOW more, I am seeing the term “brotherhood” doesn’t fit it, as much it can be.  I believe men come into MGTOW thinking it is some sort of brotherhood, and then when MGTOW doesn’t support sufficiently their personal hurt, these men feel betrayed and up and leave.

I am seeing the latest round with some African-American MGTOW channel dropping MGTOW, and saying they won’t do MGTOW videos any longer, because white MGTOW aren’t empathetic enough for their plight as black men.  There is a sense of being betrayed here, like they believe MGTOW is some sort of brotherhood with other men getting their back.

Here is one video I saw that shows this expectation not being met:

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[davParticipant 422]

I didn’t come into MGTOW looking for a brotherhood or anything. I came here to escape the feminist bulls~~~ and get some advice and regain my sanity. I’ve got more respect for the men here which I have never met than the women I have known in the past personally.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I think the attitude that goes “I’m quitting because you’re not conforming to my wishes” is more like a wannabe ruler than a brother. My image of a brother is someone who lets me go my own way.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

The individual who produced that video has not produced any mgtow content in 8 months.

His video is off base and irrelevant.

 

 

Mgtow is more of an idea and philosophy rather than a brotherhood.

 

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

MGTOW was never a brotherhood, it’s like a way-station, where you go to get some information of (fem)monsters, maps, and what to look out for, before you go on your own journey.

 

There may be a bar at the Way station(MGTOW), where you can drink and talk about your experiences before going out, and you may take a walkie talkie with you, in case you desire advice or a second opinion, but it was never a place to gather a group to follow, then it would never be your own way, and certainly not you becoming your own master.

[HuevonParticipant 68]

This is like going to MC Donalds to order a Whopper. If this guy wants to discuss issues that are not related to manhood, he just needs to find the right forum for his topic on the internet.

Also I don’t really get how someone can walk away from walking his own way. We are not an organisation. We are individuals who talk about living a self determined life. Who ever doesn’t want to share, is free not to.

After all I don’t feel like we should be sad, that he doesn’t want to join us. His mind seems too confused to contribute any clarity.

[Lord VatsParticipant 379]

Burgundy wrote:

MGTOW was never a brotherhood, it’s like a way-station, where you go to get some information of (fem)monsters, maps, and what to look out for, before you go on your own journey.

Absolutely!
I think of MGTOW as a meeting spot (tavern) for hikers who are hiking their own trails. It doesn’t matter how much you “like” to hike alone, you’ll always have to stop somewhere to refurnish supplies and get the occasional company of like minded men.
This is certainly not a brotherhood with set headquarters and fixed working hours.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

There is a tendency for some men, who see a group of other men, they share some common concern and problems with, to be brothers, and the group of men a “brotherhood”.  With this mentality, when the other men go off and do their own thing, you feel they aren’t supporting you.

By the way, can someone explain this one to me: Why do African-American men call each other brothers?  If they went to the same church, I understand this term. But the phrase “my brothers” that is used among African-American men who don’t know each other.  I don’t get this greeting at all.  Just because you share some attribute or suffering with them, doesn’t mean they are your brother.  Note that I consider the use of the term brother to actually mean something.

My take on MGTOW interacting, is that it is like a mesh network (think Internet), where MGTOW can connect and disconnect whenever they want, and connect with whomever they want, to exchange whatever is necessary.  I just keep seeing men wanting it to be more than that, and I think there is disappointment when it isn’t for those.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Oaken1Participant 67]

so you want to take a bunch of loners and form them in to a pack?

[InvisibleManParticipant 134]

Why are the African-American MGTOW splitting off? Everyone cares about everyone here irrespective of race, I can see that. I just spent a lot of time researching and bringing attention to the flight of the men in Africa who are being subjected to MC. Why are these men not making a video about this issue? How can we not be representing ALL men?!

The fact they are splitting off like this says more about them than MGTOW. I don’t see anything here that would cause them to split off, nothing said here has had any racial context until they brought the race card into the debate.

MGTOW is a brotherhood, but because our society has conditioned men in a way that we are not allowed to express our emotions and get positive validation from other men the way women are allowed, it is more difficult for men to have empathy for their fellow man to the point of forming a strong social group.

Unfortunately the African-Americans splitting off will now be interpreted that MGTOW is a bigoted bastion of racists, which could be no further from the truth. Sadly society has also conditioned us so much that we can’t question women or racial issues without being labelled as irrelevant and extremists. The sad truth is the social conditioners have won.

You know when the social conditioners have won when you have to edit your post here to make sure you don’t offend anyone. MGTOW is the only place I have been that is a bastion of free speech and I have not been censored here. Sadly the fact I have to edit my post because I might offend MGTOW of other races means something has happened in MGTOW as a result of the African-American split that I fear will divide and cause MGTOW to crumble. I can only hope you guys can keep the movement together and going strong into the future and not worry about anyone trying to de-rail the MGTOW message.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I guess to placate to prevent a sort of schism, I am supposed to support Dukes of Hazzard from cable TV, because the car on the show has a confederate flag on it:

http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/07/01/dukes-of-hazzard-reruns-pulled-by-tv-land/

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 11]

MGTOW by definition must have minimum group cohesion. It’s still a great thing for those who choose it, because they benefit from it. I’m actually a very egregious MGTOW. MGTOWs are not a f~~~ing hive unlike the gynocracy.

I’m White, and Black MGTOWS are my fellow travelers on the same road. I’m starting to believe these anti-MGTOW for any Black guys are paid troll video productions. Why are these forces scared of Black MGTOWs? The gynocracy works in the shadows. They are threatened by MGTOW so they seek to divide us.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

MGTOW per se cannot be the sinew of a brotherhood, though it can bring those together with similar interests and outlooks which may form one.

[Anonymous 3]

Have you made even one thread that isn’t concern trolling? It seems like every time I see your name it’s an attack on MGTOW and telling us all we can’t use such and such word, or that we must do this or that because it’s not to your liking.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Anonymous wrote:

Have you made even one thread that isn’t concern trolling?

Exactly!

I smell tuna!

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Is there a problem with the brotherhood?

What’s this “Divide and Conquer” bulls~~~?

It’s all here say!

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[BufordParticipant 935]

You can’t divide and conquer this. It’s not a hive. This is just a way station for people who have or are coming to the conclusion that life is better spent without women being a concern.

If black mgtow’s want to share their experiences and get/give some advice in that area then great, give me a digital handshake dudes. But i’m not interested in being an activist for men’s rights or race issues. I’m just going sit on my back porch with a cold beer and watch the women burn it all.

"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"

[Anonymous 5]

This seems to be deliberately inciting racial tension with the weakest nonsensical “proof” imaginable.
We just went through all this a few weeks back.
It’s further incited with a subsequent post bitching about African-Americans referring to each other as brothers.

This forum is the one place on the planet I can share views on reality when it comes to dealing with women, without being shamed and ridiculed or being thought of as weak.
The men on this forum are the only people on the planet who won’t shout me down and white knight me for saying how it is.
The men on this forum aren’t subconsciously elbowing me aside and alpha-ing each other in the hierarchial pursuit of attracting and impressing women.
This would be the one place on the planet that men don’t compete and put down each other on any level consciously and/or subconsciously, overtly or covertly to impress a source of vaginas.

The banning of c~~~s on these forums has not only removed c~~~s, it’s inadvertently removed the c~~~iness between men that’s always been there without us really knowing it’s full extent. It’s typical we don’t really know what something is till we lose it.
In that respect, all these guys are my brothers. It’s a bond and a relationship I share with them and no other.

With manginas, simps and white knights, I simply see them as well meaning guys trying to be good men, just like we tried to be good men.
If or when “MGTOW” guys “sell out”,,,that’s their business! It’s their way. We’re not in their shoes.
I only see the good they’ve shared while they were with us. If they decide to end the relationship with MGTOW for whatever reason they like, it’s not my place to be a bitch and whine about wanting more of anything from them.

[BufordParticipant 935]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

phoenix wrote:

Have you made even one thread that isn’t concern trolling?

Exactly!

I smell tuna!

Well looking over the started threads it certainly smells of targeted research.

"This happens every time one of these floozies starts poontangin' around with those show folk fags. - Sheriff Buford T. Justice"

[peterfaParticipant 833]

This man is so ignorant and full of s~~~. In nearly every statement he makes he’s full of gratuitous material errors.

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