Why hire women?

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  • #702412
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    Nomad82
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    Sometimes I’ve thought to myself, “man the MGTOW community is so vast let’s go public and fight back!” And then I read things like this….. and realize the women are burning down their own world. Thanks c~~~s!

    Now where’s my popcorn….

    Achieve Individual Greatness!

    #702425
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    Jan Sobieski
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    I think Napoleon said never interupt and enemy when he is making a mistake.

    Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

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    IRuleMe
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    The problem with #metoo as it relates to pushing legislation, is that the legislation does nothing for equality, but instead denotes gender favoritism. If you have special laws passed for you in the work place that are exclusive to you, then how can I treat you equally?

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    SH3LLZ
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    GENTS!
    JUST… (All together now!)

    #ICETHEMOUT!!!! XD

    Dont help them, dont mentor them, dont work with them, dont hire them. DENY THEM EVERYTHING!!

    #ICETHEMOUT!!!

    #ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

    #702475
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    Knights Templar Rising
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    The only thing the #metoo movement has achieved, is to ensure I will never hire a woman.

    Sovereignty above all else.

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    Aussie
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    I would hire ONLY women. I mean they get paid so much less than men so I would save a fortune in wages, right? Oh, hang on I would have to hire 3 of them to do the job of one man and even then the job would get f~~~ed up so maybe I would not save much after all !

    " I feel threatened "

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    Heave-Ho Mgtow
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    I am a director, and the changes over the last few years in hr have taken any of the fun left out of managing people. A female employee had 14 days off for sick kids. I was a single parent, and do you think I would have been allowed to do this? Hell no. Equality my ass.

    I walk on eggshells outside of the engineering department. It’s some dangerous s~~~ outside them walls.

    I am ready to leave this rat infested work environment in about 5 years, and I will own my own business then if not sooner with my son. No women allowed.

    I fear for our country and our future businesses in this climate. Do you think third world countries have to make allowances for this bulls~~~? We are so f~~~ed.

    skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

    #702534
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    The only reason to hire a woman is to do something you absolutely don’t want a man to do, like lick your b~~~~.

    Apart from sex, there’s no reason to hire a woman over a man.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

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    DarkRyu
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    I LOVE the idea of gender segregation at work. Then we will have hard evidence of who REALLY does all the work at a company. Women aren’t worth s~~~. At best, they’re a wash for a company. At worst it actually costs a company to hire them.

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    Skeptisk
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    What the author in that article mentioned is the #MeeToo-backlash from men. But women being stupid, we all know what will happen…

    "Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

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    Rhino
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    Women hate working with women too and when workplace segregation takes hold or they stop getting hired they will realize their mistake but will still play the victim and try to get men to fix what they screwed up.

    Business owners are now forced to go this route they have no choice women have become to much of a liability. These women thought they could take over and run us to the ground but the problem is they are not business owners men are. Start accusing these business owners or their colleagues without any evidence or due process and this is what these women are going to get. Cry wolf enough times no one will believe you.

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    Cataphract
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    I found this comment from one of the MGTOW sub-reddit threads, it’s a long read but worth it.

    [–]DangZagnut
    I have to be honest, I’m guilty here.
    I’ve owned (own) two corporations for business income purposes. So I have a little insight. I’ve also worked as a firing consultant at companies to cut the dead wood and cancer out.

    It may have only been bar talk. Or maybe these men were truly upset. But this #metoo reaction makes me fear for our careers.

    To be honest, women were never on the table to be hired for my team. I only hired males, because I like a sausage-fest in a small business. Because I have things to do and I want to run a successful company. So if you send me your resume, you won’t be hired if you have XX chromosomes.

    Outside of my own personal businesses and when I was consulting for others, I would do all sorts of social media checks and operations to determine who to get rid of, this was a “fudge factor” operation. Meaning that if all things were equal, your social media presence would be used against you. I ran NSA level checks on this.

    With respect to the current situation, anyone posting PoundMeToo would have been on the chopping block. Anyone who had a bunch of social justice s~~~ was on the chopping block. Anyone that s~~~ all over their employer was on the chopping block.

    For the record, this is when “all things being equal”. If you had any value, this wasn’t a problem, if you were on the fence, you being a s~~~ty social justice warrior would tip you over the wire. You being a #MeToo would have had you removed. My job was to provide The List for an organization to determine what they should, or shouldn’t do, with their less than revenue producing employee base. They decided what happened to you. I’d recommend sucking your boss off more often to save your job, but to each your own. It’s certainly easier than getting a competent STEM degree.

    This wasn’t just the kind of casual whining you’re seeing on Twitter and Facebook from men saying that the office flirting is now too risky, let along office romances.

    Who you f~~~ at work isn’t the problem, a classification of how much of a problem you are determines whether you’re a problem. F~~~ing is swept under the rug, or ignored when everyone is happy, but if you’re a known problem, HR takes it like, really like seriously? And like? Moves you to another department and has you work remotely? And like, puts you on the next layoff in six months due to downsizing?

    As I’ve mentioned before, I work(ed) with AI systems, which are extremely good for classification and regressive statistical analysis. It is trivial to context scan social media to determine what your opinions are on things. Just like with predictive marketing, that I used to do. Hell it’s the same code.

    Facebook, Google, twitter, knows your political ideology within four decimal places and has you classified. Doing that with employees to determine who to keep and who to get rid of is no different, and is exceedingly easy. There’s a direct correlation between what level of political intersectionality of ideology and how much of a problem at work you are. Secretary f~~~s the sales manager? You can predict how much of a threat they are to the organization and act accordingly.

    Or the complaint that men no longer feel safe complimenting women at work, with some even worrying that “hello” said in the wrong tone could be seen as harassment.

    Maybe at companies that employ 20 year olds. I’m guessing that most of this is BS made up stuff by feminists to recruit younger stupid women.

    We know both of those are just knee-jerk reactions from guys who aren’t thinking this all through.

    Actually these are intelligent reactions, women have proven they are a problem in the workplace, which is why they hired people like me to data mine your failures to remove you.

    First of all, pleasantries should never go away. And the primary reason to be at work is, well, work. If a consensual relationship between peers takes place outside the office, that’s their business, as long as it doesn’t affect ours.

    Feminists want to be able to cry rape for saying hello. #MeToo includes any ugly guy that has ever talked to you in 20 years.

    But you want all the benefits of hot guys hitting on you, and ugly guys lowering their gaze. Go f~~~ yourself.

    A group of male executives, bitter over the reckoning that is taking place, insinuated that if women keep this up, their response will be to stop hiring and promoting women.

    Actually how it works is that those women that are a threat to the organization are laid off before they can advance beyond middle management. I’m sorry, but you needed to be gone. You were a threat to the organization with your lies. You are tagged and marked like a zoo animal the second you walk into a company. And updated regularly. Remember all that paperwork you had to sign giving the company unlimited rights to your background?

    According to these men, who indeed had the power to control their staff members’ fate, women now present too much of a threat.

    And thanks for making me wealthy ladies. I truly have enjoyed profiting off stupid women. If it makes you feel better, I did offshore your jobs and had you laid off to countries that employee brown people at our wholly owned subsidiaries. So you’re supporting PoC! And since PoC outrank white girls on the oppression scale, you’re fine with that, unless you’re part of one of those white supremacist hate cult feminist groups?

    One word from an upset female, and a man’s career could end in a flash. (That’s obviously an exaggeration of what women are doing, of course.)

    And yet, your name still ended up on “the list”. And you’re gone. And some other woman who has skills took your place.

    So, the safest thing, these people reasoned, is to block women from making it to the boardroom, the C-suites and the development pods. Keep the power in mens’ hands, and keep women where they can’t do any “damage.”

    Yes, I can absolutely attest and have emails to prove, that’s exactly what I did. You were kicked out due to the statistical analysis of your psychological makeup.
    Stop lying, and no one will put you on the list. In other words, be competent. But that isn’t taught in soft sciences is it. Soft sciences are cute little majors so stupid women can feel like their participating in society.

    Well, I have a message for anyone who thinks this way. Stop right there. Don’t you dare try that.

    Well we started doing it quite awhile ago, and I assure you, it hasn’t stopped, if anything, we know more about you every second. Keep posting all your stupid s~~~ so you can be neutered in the workplace before you ever had a chance. The more you PoundMeToo, the more on the list you are. As the classification guys on reddit said, “We know everything about you”.

    First of all, you’d be setting yourself up for a repeat of the lawsuits that took place in the 1970s and 1980s, when women had to sue to get access to equal opportunities.

    Actually no, this works around lawsuits. You aren’t being “fired” for being on the list, the list is just used to sway a fence sitter from one side to another. It isn’t gender related. Rest assured manginas were also on the list.

    Women argued that they had systematically been denied equal pay and opportunities.

    Go yell at the AI that decided you were a f~~~ing waste of time. Sue the AI. They’d still beat you in court. Face it ladies, you have as much protection as those union jobs that ended up in China when they made a bunch of noises.

    Although we think of her now as a feminist heroine, Katherine Graham, the publisher of Newsweek and the Washington Post, was said to be perplexed by how to reply to the suits.

    Well she’s a feminist, so no doubt reality is confusing.

    In the end, the answer was to reach settlements with the women. That opened the door for women across many industries to enter companies where they had not been welcomed, and to rise within the ranks to the upper most jobs.

    Which just shows that, in the end, all you feminists care about is money. A payoff. What PoundMeToo has shown is that a payoff doesn’t work, because you won’t keep you f~~~ing mouths shut after minor issues that you didn’t care enough about to go to the police. So go f~~~ yourselves. No one believes your lies any more.

    To be sure, those lawsuits did not make it any easier for women to function within the workplace, but at least they got a chance to so.

    No, payoffs became the norm, to shut you the f~~~ up and remove you from the workplace, but thanks to AI classification systems, you’re much easier to shuffle into a standard yearly layoff.

    Of course, any attorney would tell these executives that they would be in clear violation of one of the tenets of sexual harassment law. That is, creating a hostile workplace where woman are not able to do their jobs.

    First off, you’re a quota hire, so you don’t do anything of value. Second off, men are smarter than you, and hire assholes like me to consult and advise and produce reports and lists of people to get rid of. Ever watch Office Space? It’s like that.

    And by reducing opportunities for women,

    You’re a quota hire to avoid EEOC complaints. Nothing more.

    these executives would fail in one type of fiduciary duty to their shareholders. They would risk cutting off their firms from half of the consumer market.

    Women don’t care who runs DeBeers, as long as the diamonds keep flowing. Name all the executive women at Godiva? No? You don’t care you chocolate eating sows.

    The shareholders care for profits, not how many clams are on the board. Only feminists care about that.

    Think of it. Are men truly so scared of putting a foot wrong in the workplace that they’d limit the audience for their company’s products?

    You don’t limit the audience of your products by removing SJW feminists and other f~~~ing retards, all you do is lower salary expense and have a happier workplace without problematic employees.

    Studies have shown that when companies have women on their boards and in top ranks, they do better with women customers as a whole.

    No they don’t. No study has ever said that. No one gives a s~~~ who is on a board of directors. They care about customer service, product quality, marketing, social value, and cost. That’s it. You think customers research how many f~~~ing feminists are on the BoD? Are you serious?
    Other than bitching and lawsuits, what do women offer in the workplace again?

    After all, women know where women can excel. We read those lists of The 100 Best Companies For Women, and we talk to each other

    Yes, because it’s impossible to hire a marketing consulting company to figure out what you need to change in your product line. No women in your company are needed for that. Unless you think female engineers are inherently different than male engineers. Are you saying men and women are biologically different? That’s a feminist paddlin’

    We know when a company has a bro culture that drives women away, from both jobs and the goods and services they provide.

    Good, please spread that around, I love to know when a company is below stock price to buy up for when they announce a new product that no women were involved in.
    Because I want s~~~ to work, not to feel like working two days of the month.

    We know which executives don’t work well with women, and which ones don’t promote them.

    Good, stay away, no one wanted you in the first place.

    All that said, I’m pretty confident that this is just guys trying to get a handle on a situation they can’t yet control.

    You’ve been controlled forever. You’re just able to bust manginas and liberal democrats recently. How are those male feminists treating you these days? I mean, first out of the gate was Weinstein. A big feminists ally and Clinton bag man. That’s your big score? Well you certainly decreased the DNC contribution rates. Good work shooting yourself in the foot. Why would you be useful on a board if you attack your own income streams?

    Other men simply don’t want to have to follow rules that are probably already in place at their companies, but which they’ve flaunted to see whether they can get away with it.

    I recently had a female VP I reported to for a client. She was laid off recently. Seemed to work out mysteriously for me. She’s gone, my life improved. I did have to send an email though.

    Deep down inside, they know they can’t retreat into male-only bastions, the same way we women can’t really pull up the drawbridge and operate from female castles, much as we may be tempted to try it.

    We don’t remove all women, we remove SJW feminist women, or women that appear to be threats to a productive workforce, which means anyone that’s a feminist or SJW or supports them.

    But, just in case some idiot tries it, here’s my homework assignment.

    I’m all ears, except I use technology to do so to classify if it’s useless or not.

    One, document how many women your company employs. Find out the ratio of men to women where you work. If you see it dipping in coming weeks and months, speak up.

    Sorry, equality of outcome is for socialists. What we do, see, is we layoff all the SJWs, then we reposition the ones we can’t get rid of for quota reasons into positions that have no effect on anything, and pay you to shuffle paper around so you have no impact on anything. Three key positions. “Business analyst”, “Risk Analysis”, “Technical Analyst”. And occasionally, “Technical Architect”. At any big company those job titles are reserved for the people that show up on the short bus.

    Two, keep an eye on who gets interviewed for jobs. You know who is coming in to be considered for openings, since they’re probably dressed well and a little nervous.

    We do, and we use The Firm level intelligence operations to investigate you to determine if we should hire you. That youtube video you uploaded c~~~ing about men? That PoundMeToo tweet? We take that very much into consideration.

    A number of workplaces, including universities, are required to interview women and people of color for jobs and to document how many non-male candidates were considered.

    In the real world, we just outsource your job to India, China, and Korea. There’s lots of colorful people there. Universities are SJW and feminist wombs, so of course you want trophies around, because it’s not like you make or produce a product, so you can afford to have useless paper pushers, it’s not like your customer base isn’t forced to pay you whether they like it or not.
    Diversity Achievement Unlocked.

    I’ve been a hiring manager and I can tell you I was not allowed to make a a job offer, unless I demonstrated that our candidate pool was diverse.

    That’s why it’s past tense. You sucked. Diversity f~~~s up productivity. That’s why we outsource to companies we own in other countries with more favorable laws. Sorry. You lost, again. Because again feminists don’t understand how corporations and business works. Sorry your feminist lesbian basketball degree didn’t prepare you for how the real world works. Have you considered pushing more young ladies into Feminist Studies degrees? We hire those all the time and are ALWAYS successful careers with high salaries.

    If you notice that only men are finalists for job openings, ask why.

    Why? Because we want competent people that aren’t quota diversity hires. You people get shuffled off into bulls~~~ positions that don’t matter. So you can cosplay being important!

    Third, pay attention when you hear that women are leaving. If you know them, try to get them to tell you why they’ve decided to move on.

    Actually I am intimately aware when women are leaving, what with me putting the list together. That comes into play.

    If you’re problematic, you’re gone. If you’re salvageable, you’re promoted to a useless position that means nothing. Don’t worry, we keep competent people (men) where they actually do work, and you get to document, or risk analyze, of business analyze you want to irrelevancy.

    They may truly be leaving for a better job, or have a standard non-committal answer prepared. But if you know that they were unhappy, make some notes to yourself. See if there’s any pattern that emerges.

    We gave them an exit interview, but that’s just to deter workplace violence, no one cares why you’re gone, but we made up bulls~~~ as to why they’re being let go to begin with. Don’t worry, SJWs and women are far too stupid to know why they were cut. You’ll never know that it was because of a facebook post 3 months ago.

    Fourth, talk to your network and see if anyone else in your industry has pulled back on hiring women. Again, if it happens elsewhere, it’s likely that the same idea is spreading across different companies.

    I made a ton of money and had many referrals. I’m very good at identifying those that need to go. It’s called Risk Management. And Risk Assessment, based on the Risk Tolerance of a company. Never heard those terms? I guess the don’t teach that in feminist basket weaving class. But if you get a job in the real world you’ll probably get some BS job where those terms are used. Of course, it’ll be for something that has neither risk nor relevancy.

    Too much of what has happened in the past with sexual harassment is because we didn’t speak up, out of fear of being singled out as troublemakers, out of a reluctance to get involved, or out of the perception that nobody would believe us.

    I have never been happier that you’re blatantly calling yourselves out as threats to organizations with a simple keyword search. We used to have to do contextual associations and statistical regression, but you make it so much easier. By all means keep hash tagging your uselessness and being “problematic” your favorite SJW word.

    We can’t let that happen with our jobs.

    Technically you don’t have a job. Not where I was involved. A job is for someone that benefits a company.
    Ever watch Inglorious Bastards? I’m that guy that won a bunch of academy awards.

    This is too important to our families, our children and our sense of self.

    Feminists hate families. You want them destroyed. Also, work on your self-esteem on your time, not your former company’s time.

    We don’t want to see it sealed with concrete before we’ve had the chance to shatter it.

    You’ve been mitigated for a decade. The only suckers now being caught are those feminist jackasses and male feminists that didn’t have the brain pan to protect themselves.

    Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

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    OldBill
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    Great find, Jan. The writer even mentions MGTOW and it’s growing popularity.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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    Puffin Stuff
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    @cataphract

    Thanks for the excellent post. It answered so many questions. And directly from the horses mouth. Try to find that on other web sites.

    It ain’t there.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #703011
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    KevinStyles
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    Pretty much summs up my feelings on the topic. We’re headed to segregation or just outright reduction in womens employment except for specialty departments . So way to go Feminists , you just f~~~ed yourselves! Congratulations and taking a huge f~~~ing step backwards for your gender.

    All this legal risk now on top of less productivity and the extra drama you cause at the office and really, why the hell should any respectable employer hire you? Answer: They shouldn’t.

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    In math related fields like accounting, banks, loan offices…women seem to be willing to work longer hours, question authority less, while asking for less pay. I have no idea why,

    Any job where women can audit something, and make someone’s life miserable if it isn’t ok, they will love. Why ? C~~~s love to be “right”, this is why they try to rationalize every s~~~ they made, every single argument they try to “win”, even if they have to lie, fake, or do anything extremely low.

    The feeling of power and superiority is what make them love this kind of job.

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    Princekie
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    I LOVE the idea of gender segregation at work. Then we will have hard evidence of who REALLY does all the work at a company. Women aren’t worth s~~~. At best, they’re a wash for a company. At worst it actually costs a company to hire them.

    Yaaaa let’s see, we do have some women at my workplace. But they are in other departments. Let me list my experiences:

    HR:

    Infested by women, who are completely f~~~ing useless. They’ve f~~~ed up my holiday days so many times this year, I’ve lost count. They’ve also f~~~ed up my wage payments three times this year. Oh…and they offered me chance to get a discount at the local gym…but neglected to actually tell the gym that they were operating the scheme in the first place!

    Canteen:

    Solely occupied by women, I rarely go into the canteen. I went in for my free Xmas dinner this year and instantly regretted it. Cold turkey, lumpy watery cold gravy, uncooked potatoes, uncooked sprouts. Total s~~~e and gave me a bad stomach.

    Cleaning:

    Even more useless fat slags. Toilets look like something out of Trainspotting, most areas that they “clean” would be dirtier than a vagrants arse. All of them are single mums earning a bit of cash “on the side”. Useless c~~~s.

    Wouldn’t entertain hiring women in my workplace.

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    Surfdude12
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    My best friends owns retail business with 10 employees (age 18-30), 5 male and 5 female

    He said “When I ask the men to do something, they just go and do it. When I ask women to do exact same things they stand, put their hand on hips, stare at me and go ‘you can’t tell me what to do! I’m a woman!’ And I’m not even exaggerating!”

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