Why did we fight WWI and WWII?

[Anonymous 1]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

The greatest fortune he had during the war, from his own words, was being captured by the Americans. He was so thankful the Soviets didn’t get to him first.

Yes, your grandfather was lucky. East Germany was not so lucky when the USA offered it up to the Soviet Union to be devoured by the Communists.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

My grandfather was told one day, shortly after the Anschluss, that he was now in the German Army. He had to report immediately to the nearest detachment.

He was of above average intelligence (thankfully), so he did his time as a supply officer. He survived the war, which is why our bloodline is continuing.

The greatest fortune he had during the war, from his own words, was being captured by the Americans. He was so thankful the Soviets didn’t get to him first. He spoke a good deal of English, so he was made an interpreter. This was a plum job at the time. He always spoke highly of the Americans, they fed him well and treated him with dignity. A few years later, my family settled in Canada, and here I am. History is crazy when you think of it. The odds of my existing are essentially zero. Yet here I am.

I’m sorry pall, too bad you where born into this s~~~ show, but since you are here, let’s get some popcorn and enjoy this crap.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 12]

Given America was and still is mostly Germanic it never made sense to me that they fought Germany twice. Especially the second time around. Or Australia actually.

[Anonymous 1]

Anonymous wrote:

Given America was and still is mostly Germanic it never made sense to me that they fought Germany twice. Especially the second time around. Or Australia actually.

Yeah, my Grandfather was second generation German family. Going over to fight against Germany. It really affected him. Killing people that look just like you and even have the same last names.

…and for what?

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

One story my grandfather told always stuck out in my mind.

As a POW, after years of hard conflict, my grandfather sat with his comrades on the side of the road. Their morale was intact, they actually believed they could have won the war, even then.

He watched convoy after convoy of American supply trucks stream past. My grandfather turned to his friend beside him and said “no army on Earth could defeat them”.

To me, this said it all.

The answer, is no.

[Anonymous 12]

Anonymous wrote:

Morlock wrote:

Given America was and still is mostly Germanic it never made sense to me that they fought Germany twice. Especially the second time around. Or Australia actually.

Yeah, my Grandfather was second generation German family. Going over to fight against Germany. It really affected him. Killing people that look just like you and even have the same last names.

…and for what?

Given what we are seeing now Nazism probably would have been a lot better. My grandfather was in the Luftwaffe, I never knew him but I feel conflicted about Australia’s war effort given that they were killing my own.

[Anonymous 12]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

One story my grandfather told always stuck out in my mind.

As a POW, after years of hard conflict, my grandfather sat with his comrades on the side of the road. Their morale was intact, they actually believed they could have won the war, even then.

He watched convoy after convoy of American supply trucks stream past. My grandfather turned to his friend beside him and said “no army on Earth could defeat them”.

To me, this said it all.

Germany lost the second it invaded Russia and the USA became involved in the war. Some say that Hitler had to attack the Soviets or they would have invaded him. Maybe, but in any case it was a bad move.

Hitler really should have accepted Chamberlain’s terms and kept growing his science and technology. Germany could have won by other means.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

One story my grandfather told always stuck out in my mind.

As a POW, after years of hard conflict, my grandfather sat with his comrades on the side of the road. Their morale was intact, they actually believed they could have won the war, even then.

He watched convoy after convoy of American supply trucks stream past. My grandfather turned to his friend beside him and said “no army on Earth could defeat them”.

To me, this said it all.

Germany lost the second it invaded Russia and the USA became involved in the war. Some say that Hitler had to attack the Soviets or they would have invaded him. Maybe, but in any case it was a bad move.

Hitler really should have accepted Chamberlain’s terms and kept growing his science and technology. Germany could have won by other means.

Everyone always says that Hitler invading Russia was his fatal mistake. I disagree.

Why do I disagree? Well…I agree with you that was why they lost the war. I don’t think Russia can be conquered. And then, Hitler compounded Germany’s situation but declaring war on the USA. This was total insanity. The war was already lost by that point though.

I don’t agree the invasion of the Soviet Union was a “mistake”. It was the primary objective, always. In this sense, it cannot be viewed as a mistake.

The invasion of the East was the entire point of the war. This was the primary and only objective. Hitler stated this clearly in Mein Kampf in the 1920’s. His aim was to achieve living space for his people. Germany unified much later than the other powers, and they therefore lost the colonial race. The crippling Versailles treaty gave them license to strive to achieve a colonial empire contiguous to their borders, in the East. This was unachievable. It couldn’t be done. But, it was not a wild gamble, or a mistake…it was the entire program. They lost, at great cost to all.

The answer, is no.

[Anonymous 1]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

One story my grandfather told always stuck out in my mind.

As a POW, after years of hard conflict, my grandfather sat with his comrades on the side of the road. Their morale was intact, they actually believed they could have won the war, even then.

He watched convoy after convoy of American supply trucks stream past. My grandfather turned to his friend beside him and said “no army on Earth could defeat them”.

To me, this said it all.

That is a great story Billy. The German Military was incredible, but they were so vastly outnumbered. I’ve read stories where the Germans on the Russian front were running out of bullets from killing so many REDS.

Anonymous wrote:

Hitler really should have accepted Chamberlain’s terms and kept growing his science and technology. Germany could have won by other means.

Yes, their science and technology was ahead of anyone else at that time. It was so far advanced that after the War, the USA brought in thousands of their scientists to work for the USA under OPERATION PAPERCLIP.

[Jim01Participant 6678]

I hear more and more people asking that exact question and they aren’t (tiresome smear) Nazis but just normal people who see how f~~~ed up things are now

the Frankfurt school is probably behind how f~~~ed up things are now – it all feels deliberate and it has worked because the West is sinking.

I wonder if all of those liberal journalists who push that s~~~ really think they will be able to escape the s~~~ when it does? They probably believe they will still have their comfy lives and be able to go to starbucks for a latte fratta mino chino every day – f~~~ing laughable

[Anonymous 1]

Jim01 wrote:

the Frankfurt school is probably behind how f~~~ed up things are now – it all feels deliberate and it has worked because the West is sinking.

Yes, the Frankfurt School and other groups like them (Fabian Society, Milner Group). There is no doubt about it, we are living through an agenda. All carefully planned out in advance.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Germany could have won, but they made many mistakes.

One was not finding a way to convince the Spanish to allow Germany units to take Gibraltar from the British. (Canaris helped sabotage this)

Not putting enough research into heavy bombers, nor enough resources into u-boats– a Tirpitz or Bismark was a waste of resources.

Concentrating their bombers on English cities instead of better targets.

Not enough winter clothing for the Germany troops, and not making a bigger push towards Moscow, instead of diverting so many troops south towards the Caucasus. (Kind of a bitch when those Siberian soldiers waiting for Japan to try something quickly traveled West) Also, abusing the Ukrainians and Russian people, who didn’t want to fight for Stalin.

Hitler was a s~~~ty military strategist.

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[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Ranger One wrote:

Germany could have won, but they made many mistakes.

Yeah when they decided to fight a two front war, that was their ultimate undoing.

They should’ve kept Russia at bay until they destroyed Western Europe, then they should’ve focused on Russia.

After that the rest would’ve fallen into place. (US, Japan, etc.)

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Ranger One wrote:

Germany could have won, but they made many mistakes.

Eighty percent of the German army was in the Soviet Union, so once that started to turn against them, they were in big trouble. His Generals tried to tell him 1,000 mile supply lines in the USSR were too risky, but Hitler would not listen.

Ranger One wrote:

Hitler was a s~~~ty military strategist.

Agree! Hitler did not listen to his Generals, and was too over-confident. I have read that 100 of his Generals “committed suicide.” More likely they were plotting against him or opposing his tactics.

Conrad Zeus had invented the analog computer, and Willie Messerschmidt a functional jet plane, but Hitler did not pursue those because he was certain the war would be over in Germany’s favor before they could be developed or used. The Germans had advanced rocket technology compared to the Allies. On D-Day, the German tanks could not advance until they were given his permission to the great benefit of the Allied invasion. In a way, the Allies were lucky Hitler was incompetent once the war was ongoing.

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