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  • #825858
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    BritGHOW
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    Most Western nations do – happily voted in by feelz over facts women

    Westerners have gone a few generations now without having to fight for their survival. It’s made them docile. I can’t even really blame non-Westerners for wanting to take advantage of that…

    Its the cycle of life:

    Hard times create strong men.
    Strong men create easy times.
    Easy times create weak men.
    Weak men create hard times.

    Correct, unfortunately the advent of the atomic bomb has mean that we haven’t had to fight a war, a real war, in over 70 years, the safety blanket provided by nukes has produced the softest, most coddled and entitled generation in modern history and the governments of the west are so terrified of standing up to the entitled little s~~~s they’re willing to invite wholesale destruction by importing those who will.

    #825861
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    Experienced
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    Great movie:
    “Hard times”
    Charles Bronson

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #825876
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    Anonymous
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    unfortunately the advent of the atomic bomb has mean that we haven’t had to fight a war, a real war, in over 70 years, the safety blanket provided by nukes has produced the softest, most coddled and entitled generation in modern history

    Oh really,,, I’m not feeling too soft and too coddled, and I’m for goddamn sure I’m not entitled! I’m disenfranchised in EVERY LOGICAL, LEGAL, AND MORAL WAY POSSIBLE!

    F~~~ing dirtbag system full of dirtbags!

    #825886
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    743 roadmaster
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    Not only did we fight the wars, but rebuilt the countries after. If I recall my history correct forgave most of the debt ran up in and after the war.

    Looks like a bad choice now in the light of history.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #825892
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    BritGHOW
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    unfortunately the advent of the atomic bomb has mean that we haven’t had to fight a war, a real war, in over 70 years, the safety blanket provided by nukes has produced the softest, most coddled and entitled generation in modern history

    Oh really,,, I’m not feeling too soft and too coddled, and I’m for goddamn sure I’m not entitled! I’m disenfranchised in EVERY LOGICAL, LEGAL, AND MORAL WAY POSSIBLE!

    F~~~ing dirtbag system full of dirtbags!

    From your previous postings I’m pretty sure you were born long prior to 1985 good sir. That and the fact that millennials tend not to survive too long around these parts, something to do with entitlement meeting reality I’m sure.

    #825893
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    Autolite
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    Not only did we fight the wars, but rebuilt the countries after. If I recall my history correct forgave most of the debt ran up in and after the war.

    Looks like a bad choice now in the light of history.

    What can you do? Germany being impoverished, it’s debt and it’s hyperinflation after WWI is what encouraged them to start WWII…

    #825896
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    Ranger One
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    Not only did we fight the wars, but rebuilt the countries after. If I recall my history correct forgave most of the debt ran up in and after the war.

    Looks like a bad choice now in the light of history.

    What can you do? Germany being impoverished and it’s hyperinflation after WWI is what encouraged them to start WWII…

    You could do what Rome did after the THIRD Punic War. Wipe out Carthage, salt the fields.

    I would have sold the entire German population into slavery and exported them from Germany, killed anyone that resisted, then made Germany “New Israel”. Encourage all the Jews in the world to move there, instead of Palestine. Give them a huge, fertile green country instead of that s~~~ desert surrounded by Arabs.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #825901
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    Hermit
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    I would have sold the entire German population into slavery and exported them from Germany, killed anyone that resisted, then made Germany “New Israel”. Encourage all the Jews in the world to move there, instead of Palestine. Give them a huge, fertile green country instead of that s~~~ desert surrounded by Arabs.

    Oh man, this is good. Couldn’t help but chuckle at this.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #825928
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    I am more and more convinced that we should never have entered the World Wars, especially not to protect the British Empire.

    Agreed. America gained nothing. No long-term positive effects. Machiavelli says that if two nations are at war, you should always pick a side rather than remain neutral. I say if you’re the biggest toughest kid on the playground, let the other kids beat the s~~~ out of each other as much as they want.

    The WWI and WWII soldiers died for nothing

    No man who dies a hero died for nothing. Whether Europe appreciates the sacrifice our soldiers made is ultimately irrelevant. God will reward you if the world doesn’t.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

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    Carnage
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    I am more and more convinced that we should never have entered the World Wars, especially not to protect the British Empire.

    Agreed. America gained nothing. No long-term positive effects. Machiavelli says that if two nations are at war, you should always pick a side rather than remain neutral. I say if you’re the biggest toughest kid on the playground, let the other kids beat the s~~~ out of each other as much as they want.

    The WWI and WWII soldiers died for nothing

    No man who dies a hero died for nothing. Whether Europe appreciates the sacrifice our soldiers made is ultimately irrelevant. God will reward you if the world doesn’t.

    Go to a cemetery, ask the dead if honor and loyalty matter, the silence is you answer.

    Let me get this straight? God will reward men that died in a battlefield trying to kill other men? How about the other cheek? How about love your enemy?

    Nahhh that is not how it works.

    Sorry pall but if there is hell im going there head first, I will pay for my sins with a smile on my face, some of the bad things I have done I regret, but the good actions I regret the most.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #825958
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    BoB
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    I saw this posted on a blog recently. Seems apropos to the thread.

    “Sticking with foreign policy, in the aftermath of the G-7 summit the Democrat-Left-Media complex and the Eurabians are all butthurt that PDT has insulted them and not knuckled under, like previous administrations have (for the most part) since the end of World War II. With all due respect to Europe and the Left, which is to say none at all, GFY. The President is right; we spent our blood and treasure liberating you from ideologies of your own making twice in a generation and after rebuilding your continent and economies, we’ve spent nearly 75 years afterwards funding your dissolute, insane, cheese-eating, wine-guzzling, adulterous lifestyles while protecting you from Russia, all to see you committing cultural suicide at our expense and then blaming us, evil Jooz, capitalism, Christianity and the 40 hour work week for the ills you brought upon yourselves, as the illusion of the European union collapses around you. Enough.”

    #825964
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    Go to a cemetery, ask the dead if honor and loyalty matter, the silence is you answer.

    Ah yes, nihilism, so fashionable, so edgy, so easily fooled by appearances. All you see is a corpse. What I see is the physical remains of a fundamentally spiritual being who is enjoying eternal bliss with his creator as a reward for his virtue, and who will one day receive his body back again. Though his flesh may pass away, his spirit will abide forever in the house of the Lord.

    Let me get this straight? God will reward men that died in a battlefield trying to kill other men? How about the other cheek? How about love your enemy?

    Picking and choosing Bible verses while ignoring the entirety of the work is not likely to yield a plausible interpretation. For a non-Christian to attempt to interpret Scripture to a Christian seems a rather pointless endeavor, sort of like a woman telling a man what being a “real man” is.

    “Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” – John 15:13

    We turn the other cheek and pray for those who persecute us because we hope for their salvation rather than their destruction, but we will take up arms, fight, kill, and die to protect our brothers. Even then, when we kill, we do so not out of hatred, but in defense of the common good. Even in the Bible, God frequently commands his followers to take up arms against their foes. Clearly there is a distinction to be made between a just war and senseless slaughter.

    Nahhh that is not how it works.

    I believe I’m more certain of my position than you are of yours. All your nonsense about how much you love bloodshed and chaos and death is mere posturing, an exaggerated attempt to synthesize nihilism with a no f~~~s given attitude. However, you are a doctor; you’ve probably saved people from great pain, maybe even death. There’s a better and more noble part of you, and perhaps a great crisis like the kind you claim to hope for will bring it to the surface.

    Sorry pall but if there is hell im going there head first, I will pay for my sins with a smile on my face, some of the bad things I have done I regret, but the good actions I regret the most.

    I don’t think you regret your good actions; you only regret that they didn’t result in the consequences you had hoped for. You had hoped your goodness would be rewarded in this life, and were disappointed when it wasn’t. But your goodness may be rewarded yet. As for Hell, that’s ultimately up to you, but I have hope for you still.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #826031
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    Carnage
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    Go to a cemetery, ask the dead if honor and loyalty matter, the silence is you answer.

    Ah yes, nihilism, so fashionable, so edgy, so easily fooled by appearances. All you see is a corpse. What I see is the physical remains of a fundamentally spiritual being who is enjoying eternal bliss with his creator as a reward for his virtue, and who will one day receive his body back again. Though his flesh may pass away, his spirit will abide forever in the house of the Lord.

    Let me get this straight? God will reward men that died in a battlefield trying to kill other men? How about the other cheek? How about love your enemy?

    Picking and choosing Bible verses while ignoring the entirety of the work is not likely to yield a plausible interpretation. For a non-Christian to attempt to interpret Scripture to a Christian seems a rather pointless endeavor, sort of like a woman telling a man what being a “real man” is.

    “Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” – John 15:13

    We turn the other cheek and pray for those who persecute us because we hope for their salvation rather than their destruction, but we will take up arms, fight, kill, and die to protect our brothers. Even then, when we kill, we do so not out of hatred, but in defense of the common good. Even in the Bible, God frequently commands his followers to take up arms against their foes. Clearly there is a distinction to be made between a just war and senseless slaughter.

    Nahhh that is not how it works.

    I believe I’m more certain of my position than you are of yours. All your nonsense about how much you love bloodshed and chaos and death is mere posturing, an exaggerated attempt to synthesize nihilism with a no f~~~s given attitude. However, you are a doctor; you’ve probably saved people from great pain, maybe even death. There’s a better and more noble part of you, and perhaps a great crisis like the kind you claim to hope for will bring it to the surface.

    Sorry pall but if there is hell im going there head first, I will pay for my sins with a smile on my face, some of the bad things I have done I regret, but the good actions I regret the most.

    I don’t think you regret your good actions; you only regret that they didn’t result in the consequences you had hoped for. You had hoped your goodness would be rewarded in this life, and were disappointed when it wasn’t. But your goodness may be rewarded yet. As for Hell, that’s ultimately up to you, but I have hope for you still.

    One thing pall “non Christian “. I wanted to be a priest till I was 14 more or less, then I started asking questions and finding answers anddddd all became bulls~~~.

    You shall not kill, soldiers go to war to kill the enemy, it is not even self defense, is a pact between men to kill each other for some stupid s~~~.

    A murder is a murder, period.

    We all going to hell or no one is, choose.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

    #826053
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    Ranger One
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    You shall not kill, soldiers go to war to kill the enemy, it is not even self defense, is a pact between men to kill each other for some stupid s~~~.

    A murder is a murder, period.

    We all going to hell or no one is, choose.

    I came to much the same conclusion.

    Plus all the BS arguments about “free will” and God all that s~~~. God lets people (his “children”) do evil s~~~, including murder because of “free will”.

    If I was sitting in the living room watching a movie, and my one son picked up a crowbar and started beating my other son to death with it, I wonder if Child Protective Services would accept my explanation that I was merely allowing my children to express their “free will”?

    As f~~~ed up as human morality is, it is sad that God is held to a lower standard as a parent than we are.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #826063
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    Badger
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    To be fair, the States entered WWII because the Japanese attacked on American soil

    A Japanese author in the 1930s wrote a book titled When We Fight, predicting Japan would attack the United States. Admiral Layton in intelligence was aware of the book, but did not warn the Navy. Admiral James Otto Richardson in 1940 was adamantly and outspokenly opposed to putting the American Fleet at Pearl Harbor because it would be too vulnerable to attack. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt fired Richardson before Pearl Harbor was attacked. FDR should have been impeached on December 8, 1941. By the way, Roosevelt’s grandfather, Warren Delano, made his wealthy fortune by criminally importing opium into Chana. Chiba wanted silver for payment of their exports.

    #826071
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    Joey Alfio
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    The situation in Europe with the Migrant Crisis and recently the arrest of Tommy Robinson has me wondering…Why the hell did we fight WWI and WWII?

    In the first world war the Allies would have eventually won so although our efforts were decisive they weren’t a game changeover. In the second world war, the Russians were storming Berlin and their war economy was enough to take over the rest of Western Europe that’s why we also tried to reach Berlin just as they did to stop any further advancement into Western Europe itself such as France, Italy, Spain, etc.

    As for Japan, the Soviets again were getting ready to launch a mass invasion into Japanese heartland that’s why we dropped nukes on them as a warning to Stalin.

    USA was supposed to protect Civilization from the Barbarous German Attacks. Portraying the Germans as “Huns.” We “Liberated” Europe from Tyranny and all that.

    Yet we look at England today and Gangs of Pakistanis are raping small children with impunity. An English Man is arrested for Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of Press for just talking about it.

    Is that what we fought WWI and WWII for? The USA laid down their soldiers for the British Empire and now a Muslim is the Mayor of London?

    To be honest, most of the blame can be directed towards the crazy drug addict Fuhrer who overstretched his forces on multiple fronts, took on several super powers at once, and ultimately brought Germany into ruins which gave rise to the left in taking over and shaping the future of the Western world. If Hitler wasn’t such a moron Europe’s fate would have been very different to this day.

    What an insult to all the Men, who died “Saving Europe.”

    I am more and more convinced that we should never have entered the World Wars, especially not to protect the British Empire.

    Historically, the British Empire had always been our Arch-Enemy. Woodrow Wilson and FDR were treasonous SCUM for making allies with “The Crown.”

    I hate to say it, but Carnage is right. The WWI and WWII soldiers died for nothing…Or at least everything they fought for, has been UNDONE.

    Depends. Would you rather have the Soviets take over instead? Communism would have been a thousand times worse.

    Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

    #826163
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    Anonymous
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    I can tell you why I feel the Elite wanted to fight WWI and WWII.

    WWI was to break up the Ottoman Empire so that Western interests/Israel can be inserted/created to get a foothold in an oil rich region. 1895 was when the idea of Zionism was organized… Hmmm…Ten years after the first gas powered automobile went into production a bunch of rich Jewish bankers (Rothschilds) and cohorts (Herzl, Zionist leader and Atheist) decided they needed to take Palestinian land using religion to justify the killing and theft that goes on to this day in the oil rich Mid East where it was bubbling out of the ground…coincidence? Move ahead to the Western backed 1953 coup in Iran which had to do with Western oil interests… the more you know the more clear the picture becomes…And here we are today, the West still f~~~ing with the same countries that landed on the wrong side of the Ottoman divide…Oh, and by the way, WWI started the year after the Federal Reserve was set up in the U.S. … Hitler was allies with Iraq and Palestine… Himmler basically wrote love letters to Palestine discussing how Zionists were intent on stealing their lands…There were even black Muslim Nazis…

    WWII was fought in part to establish Israel, and they got that done rather hastily complete with letters from the Brits to the Rothschilds…

    Why individual men fought in these wars? Various reasons, none of them good. You are only fighting for which Elite will be in power after the war, they care nothing for you, your children, nor your grandchildren.

    My Grandfather fought in WWII, nearly died in the Pacific, if he were alive today he would 100% be saying “We should have just let the Japs have it, they would have ran this place much better than our politicians.” He was a staunch Republican, John Wayne type, liked Indians, and was not a racist. In fact the only slur I ever heard him use was “Jap”, which I can understand as they did attack us and he saw many of his buddies die due to having to deal with them.

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    Anonymous
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    I can tell you why I feel the Elite wanted to fight WWI and WWII.

    WWI was to break up the Ottoman Empire so that Western interests/Israel can be inserted/created to get a foothold in an oil rich region. 1895 was when the idea of Zionism was organized… Hmmm…Ten years after the first gas powered automobile went into production a bunch of rich Jewish bankers and cohorts decided they needed Palestinian land in the oil rich Mid East where oil was bubbling out of the ground…coincidence? Move ahead to the 1953 coup in Iran which had to do with Western oil interests… the more you know the more clear the picture becomes…And here we are today, the West still f~~~ing with the same countries that landed on the wrong side of the Ottoman divide…

    WWII was fought in part to establish Israel, and they got that done rather hastily.

    Why individual men fought in these wars? Various reasons, none of them good. You are only fighting for which Elite will be in power after the war, they care nothing for you, your children, nor your grandchildren.

    My Grandfather fought in WWII, nearly died in the Pacific, if he were alive today he would 100% be saying “We should have just let the Japs have it, they would have ran this place much better than our politicians.”

    #826172
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    Anonymous
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    WWII was fought in part to establish Israel, and they got that done rather hastily complete with letters from the Brits to the Rothschilds

    Yes and Rothschild was the Treasurer of the “Milner Group.”

    Caroll Quigley, exposed the “Milner Group” as being the principal architects of WWI and presumably WWII. Of course Zionism is also part of their agenda.

    This group later became the “Royal Institute of International Affairs” and the “Council On Foreign Relations.”

    #826173
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    My grandfather was told one day, shortly after the Anschluss, that he was now in the German Army. He had to report immediately to the nearest detachment.

    He was of above average intelligence (thankfully), so he did his time as a supply officer. He survived the war, which is why our bloodline is continuing.

    The greatest fortune he had during the war, from his own words, was being captured by the Americans. He was so thankful the Soviets didn’t get to him first. He spoke a good deal of English, so he was made an interpreter. This was a plum job at the time. He always spoke highly of the Americans, they fed him well and treated him with dignity. A few years later, my family settled in Canada, and here I am. History is crazy when you think of it. The odds of my existing are essentially zero. Yet here I am.

    The answer, is no.

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