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First time making a post on here in a while. I guess you could say I had been going my own way for as long as I could remember. Introverted, good at sports, nice to everyone, but I never really was a part of any crowd.
My dad is/was an Alpha. As a child, I very much remember him telling me to never get married. Ever. I was confused at the time, but I completely understand where he is coming from. Love my mom, but I am her son and he was just the husband. Two very different situations.
I had an ideal. All the way until a few months ago. The ideal was the stoic husband. The Hollywood husband of old. Stoic family man with a loving wife.It’s a hard pill to swallow. To see our world today. The nature of the average western female.
I’m posting this, because I dodged a bullet and am very thankful to this community (I have lurked around) for opening my eyes.
Had found a potential “unicorn”. Nerdy, but good looking and wanting the family life and kids. Right up my alley at the time. Things were good. I was starting to really like her. One constant was the soft shouldered orbiter that she had dumped a few times and kept around as an emotional tampon. They were “best friends.” His long game was very impressive for a simp. I think he sat on the sidelines while she went through a couple flings? Stayed committed.
Long story short…
She did eventually show her true colors. Judgmental, somewhat controlling and she comes from a wealthy family were her future husband will no doubt have to live up to expectations of her father.
The orbiter, BFF got his wish and they are set to get married. I am eternally thankful for this process and awakening. Truthfully, she is getting a great deal out of it. She gets a wage slave who works in an industry that will pay him fairly well. She’ll stop working in a few years to start raising the kids. She’ll have about 3 or 4 and do the stay at home mom thing while the poor guy busts his ass all the way up to middle management and bringing home the bacon for her.
She doesn’t love the guy, but to fulfill her dreams of motherhood, it is better to settle for Plan B orbiter and not risk the chance of being unattached and approaching the wall. She’ll grow to resent him. He’ll get cut off from any of his needs and will be low on her priority list.
I am so glad that isn’t me. It will never be me. The atomic family of the modern western world is a wage slave husband who will get nothing out of the wife except his own children, who she might use against him down the road.
I recently read the manipulated man and can’t help but laugh at it all. Messed up world we live in.
I have gladly dodged some major bullets.
1. A South African girl whom I met on an internship. We shared nights of kissing and intense fondling. There was no sex, however, because I wasn’t certain she felt the same. When I tried to explain this to her, she shrugged it off like it was nothing and was already eyeing other guys. I was crushed as a blue pill man at the time. Looking back, however, I am grateful that I didn’t get her pregnant. That would have been another ordeal in itself.
2. A Brazilian girl, though attractive, gave me her number at a wholesale store. We met at McDonald’s and had lunch. Shortly after, she goes back to Brazil, writes me a 4 page letter claiming her love for me. I never replied, because we only knew each other for 2 weeks.
3. A girl from New Jersey who shared my enthusiasm for band 311. We chatted online when AOL messenger was popular, and even spoke on the phone about the things we wanted to do with each other. She went through some mood swings, however, and called me prejudice about my views on certain things even though I am by no means prejudice or racist. I was going to buy a plane ticket to go see her, and once the arguments started to intensify over time, I decided against it.Welcome to MGTOW, your path was similar to mine, dad who told me not to get married, then met what I thought was a unicorn but not, and then I found MGTOW and that I was not alone.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Think of the poor guys that will end up with those charmers.
What percentage of long term relationships are even considered healthy?
10% ?
Being that the male has money, is independent and the female is still good looking and not trying to start s~~~ every second f the day?
No wonder when I walk around and look at all the married dudes. The only happy ones are blissfully ignorant to their slave role and actually welcome it as they need that kind of direction or it’s wealthy men who have a good looking partner that ins’t about to get off his train.
Welcome to MGTOW, your path was similar to mine, dad who told me not to get married, then met what I thought was a unicorn but not, and then I found MGTOW and that I was not alone.
Alpha male dad? Mine has been saying, don’t get married since I was about 6.
Anonymous5What percentage of long term relationships are even considered healthy?
10% ?
I’d say it was about 10%, possibly a bit higher, hopefully not lower.
About 50% of marriages mercifully end in divorce, and as bitter as a divorce is, I doubt there’s many who say it wasn’t worth it.
It used to be that any marriage that didn’t end in divorce was “Successful” Now, it’s acknowledged that about 20% of marriages are perpetual horror where people can’t or won’t divorce because of financial, religious or social restraints.
I seriously question the remaining 30% because for decades my marriage was seen as ideal to other people, including our families. This was at a time I used to go to bed most nights wishing I could die peacefully in my sleep. I didn’t want to shame my family with suicide, especially my children, so it wasn’t an option.
We virtually never fought or argued. On the surface, it was perfect. We would have nailed any “Happy” marriage survey. I wonder how many others reporting “Happy” are doing just the same. Most marriages are just fronts.On a brighter note, I’ve dodged a s~~~ load of shotgun blasts since.
There was a time after that I used to fall in love with a different woman every 4 to 6 weeks. I used to fall out of love and get another one just as quickly.
You learn a lot about women with repetition.
It isn’t till you find red pills and read “The Manipulated Man” in particular that you fit all the jigsaw pieces together and see the whole scary picture.
Women never have their hearts broken, they have their hopes broken.
Substitute “Hopes” for “Hearts” every time you hear or see it said and you’ll be right every time for the rest of your life.Lucky you for realizing reality before you had to learn it the hard way.
When I was about 17. I bought my father a lottery ticket. The jackpot was something like $ 100 Million. When I asked him what he would do with the money, he said something I will never forget. ” I would give you 10 million. Your brother 10 million. Your mother 10 million. And I would f~~~ off to my home country”.
Came as a real surprise to hear him say it. I didn’t get it then, but I get it now. I understand him 10 years after his death and everything he did NOT say – way better than when he was alive. It’s remarkable.
Not long after we went fishing and I asked him about being married.. “Don’t do it” he said. Nobody has any problem telling you that you should see a movie or they rave about a new restaurant. But I don’t think I ever met a man who said “F~~~ YES!!! DO IT!!!! IT”S FANTASTIC!!!”.. To me, just the concept kneeling down to ask a woman for permission to love her until death is the most f~~~ed and stupid concept there is. And then work a year to save 2-3 months of after tax savings just a buy a ring for her anxious little hand??
My mother never got an engagement ring and she never wanted one. She told my father “we’re going to take that money and put it towards the house”. She sees a diamond ring on a woman’s finger and thinks “a man would be a FOOL to marry a woman who accepts an engagement ring”. The woman who accepts it is not even worth marrying. She only cares about herself.
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As far as dodging bullets is concerned. I dodged a false rape accusation successfully. Bitch made the mistake of thinking I was stupid. And I could have been married at LEAST 4 times. Possibly even 7 or more if I really WANTED to and was aggressive about it. It seemed like girlfriends would marry EVERY GUY …….. or any guy……. as if who he is doesn’t even matter. This creeped me out quite a bit.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Two or three women I was with were probably wanting to get pregnant, I realize in retrospect. Thankfully they all failed.
A big picture bullet that I dodged was marriage. Luckily, I managed to be incapable of it. When I was young I was too clueless with women to attract one who was remotely marriage material. Later in life I was incapable of having deep enough feelings for a woman to want a relationship, much less marriage. So despite the angst along the way, it worked out well for me.
When I was 12, I had to go to a family friend’s wedding. The extravagance and some of the peoples conversations made me highly of this marriage. I remember the father of the bride laughing at her and talking about how she swore she would never get married once upon a time. That helped me dodge the bullet of teenage stupidity. I never dated then or now. That father challenged the rebel inside of me. Because of this, I noticed how foolish it was when my peers started spending their cash on their bitchy ungrateful girlfriends. I admit, the blue pill myths tantillized me with the fantasies of a happy ltr. My senior year of high school, I wrote a great pop song for a crush. However, a combination of my introversion and memories of that day convinced me to keep it to myself. I learned to channel my sexual energy into writing more music and eventually forgot about the crush. To think that my one childhood redpill moment and luck has led me to the place I am now gives me a strange feeling. I dodged a bullet, even if just barely. Dam , I just remembered that I had asked one of my band mates at the time to talk to her for me because they were friends. We had just performed that song and she was in the addience. The blue pill loosened me for just that moment. Thankfully he declined and I never asked him that a second time. Sorry, your thread has really got me reminiscing about the past. To think that things could have easily gone otherwise and I could’ve become something else is a scary thought. Oh well, as others have said, I’m just glad I dodged the bullet.
Most marriages are just fronts.
No truer words have been spoken.
Many people remain in a marriage because they simply cannot face or imagine not being in a marriage.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous182 girls showed interest during college years when we were just friends; but I never took up the offer so can’t say. Both are married now.
1 sly full metal jacket single mom got me though. Just sheer mind f~~~ing. Turned out to be promiscuous (respectfully) and a bit neurotic. Didn’t take time out of c~~~-carousel even though her ex-husband committed suicide.
she goes back to Brazil, writes me a 4 page letter claiming her love for me.
I unfortunately fell for the love letters. The sooner the letters (and bigger the number of pages/letter) come to you the bigger a sociopath you’re dealing with. Time tested MGTOW rule. Never forget.
Two or three women I was with were probably wanting to get pregnant, I realize in retrospect. Thankfully they all failed.
Forgot to mention I impregnated two women . When I was 20 and when I was 24.. Correction. Since sex doesn’t happen unless the female wants it to……. they allowed THEMSELVES to get pregnant — when they didn’t really want to be. They both aborted. 100% choice requires us to edit ourselves when we say “I impregnated a female”. Since she could have had it (or not) without my consent, she allowed herself to get pregnant.
That’s more than two bullets. That’s two warheads I avoided.
Turns out ONE of them ended up having 3 abortions that I am aware of.
She told me she was pregnant while I was in the passing lane on a 5 lane freeway. What a bitch.And after sucking me dry emotionally and terrorizing me for a month she decides not to have it anyway.
So why tell me if you don’t give a s~~~? F~~~ING DRAMA that’s why.I wanted to be a father more than I wanted to be a husband, and even said that out loud several times over the years. I was a coach and teacher of kids for a few years and really enjoyed it and everyone told me that I was great with kids. My students loved me too. But I am glad I didn’t have kids with these women. My god what a relief. My life with them would have been hell.
I worked with a guy who is married to a single mother of two kids AND HAD A THIRD WITH HER – WHILE HE IS PAYING A PREVIOUS GIRLFRIEND CHILD SUPPORT! He hates my f~~~ing guts because I actually smile when I say “good morning”.
Another I guy I worked with – let’s call him “George” – once saw me spring out of my chair at the end of the day to announce I was taking myself on a 4-day road trip with no map and no plan. I wasn’t even packing a razor and the phone would be off in the trunk. He just had a 2nd child with his wife who is one of those bossy loud and fat ones. He said “When I grow up, I want to be you”.. That was hilarious.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Alpha male dad? Mine has been saying, don’t get married since I was about 6.
[/quote]I wouldn’t consider him an Alpha male dad, once he went down the marriage path that was lost. He pretty much discouraged marriage to me, but when he saw I was really considering a marriage type relationship with a girl in college, the kid gloves were off, during the last week of his life he maintained “don’t marry”. I told a friend tonight that my father loved building model airplanes and flying them before his marriage and for a short time into it. But, I never saw him work on one, no way to live. Live your passion gentlemen.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Yep,ex girlfriend got pregnant. .lots of drama. .we were in high school. .she got an abortion. .I was so blue pill I cried like a baby. .f~~~ed.up my head for years. .it was a blessing in disguise. .
Damn. Some hard truths being dealt in here. Thanks for the words.
I’ve dodged a few. Some by my wits and some by s~~~ blind luck. I’ve been lucky.
At 24 I was stationed in California and already tired of “pump & dump” scene the rest of my running buddies on the ship were busily following. I’m riding the BART out to a married shipmate’s apartment for dinner and helped a young woman with her bicycle. Next thing I know we’ve been dating for 9 months and she’s dropping hints like Bugs Bunny drops anvils. The relationship was nothing I’ve planned, it all just seemed to happen. Bad things happen when you’re on autopilot. I got out of it because my ship deployed for 8 months and she decided not to wait. I really got lucky there.
Early 30s, I’m traveling for a living and seeing a woman when I’m home. I should have been more wary when she didn’t seem to mind drop-of-a-hat travel schedule, but everyone else in the office was married so they’d found wives that didn’t mind. I’d seen too many guys trapped by “baby rabies” and was very conscientious about condoms. She was always hinting I should stop using them, i.e. But I want to feel you…, but I stood firm. I don’t know exactly why, but I became suspicious. Among other things, she’d been too interested in what brands I’d bought. I was stupid and kept condoms at her place but decided to inspect them. Sure enough, she’d been messing with them. I didn’t say anything, threw them out, and being bringing them instead while starting to work on an easy exit. (Blue pill I know, I should have just confronted her and ended it then.) It took a while but I eased her to the curb.
Mid-40s, tough time in my life, and I’m stupid again. I’m so focused on career/business that I’m just on autopilot for my personal life so I sleepwalked into a relationship with a sneakily controlling bitch. When I luckily “woke up” I was actually frightened. No “easing out” of it this time, I ended it all in a day.
There have been a few others including a girlfriend in high school, but I’ve been smart enough sometimes, wily enough other times, and lucky enough often enough to successfully dodge those killer bullets.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Dodged a real crazy once, that was a mix of funny, confusing and kinda scary. I probably should have bailed after the first time she had a little fit and kicked me in the guts, but I’ve never had my end sucked quite so much or quite so well and she was pretty hot too. I’d literally get woken up by bj, go out for the day, come home, f~~~, watch tv, get blown, eat, go to bed, get blown, sleep, repeat. She was obsessed, I didn’t know it was possible for a fella to get multiples, the sex was mind blowing and I probably would have stuck around for all the gratutitous c~~~ polishing, so I’m really glad she went flakey – did me a huge favour.
Anyway, one day out of the blue she decided she was gonna drop everything and move to Paris. She was convinced her french was awesome, didn’t give me a second thought in any of this and promptly f~~~ed off. Oh well, that’s that i thought. I was pretty sad about the BJs though.
I got a teary phone call two days into her fantastic new life in Paris saying she was coming home. Apparently it was expensive, cramped, she was lonely and no one could understand a word she was saying. No s~~~.
i was amazed to find that there wasn’t a Gallic bad boy somewhere in all of this, and she had actually just gone off to Paris on her own with zero planning and very little cash. It was about this time it started to dawn on me that she really was a full flavoured fruitcake. I may have intimated over the phone that I was struggling to give a s~~~ about her predicament, and when she came back home I gave her zero air time. *Poof*, vanished, full phantom mode, byesey bye.
And thank god, because she really went off the rails on her return. I heard she got into bodybuilding for a short time, did a competition that apparently was about the most erotic and disturbing posing the judges had ever seen, then followed up her short bodybulding career by becoming a pole dancing instructor. I gave up following her antics after that, no idea what she’s doing now, but it’s probably insane.
Oh, and there was the time where she suddenly froze stiff as a board and started crying when we were getting it on because, ‘she thought I was going to rape her’ (if you knew me in person, you’d know I don’t have it in me, s~~~ I shouldn’t even feel the need to defend myself on this). I was pretty disgusted by the implication tbh, and ffs, we were both happily getting naked at the time. Was like a switch flipped in her head. F~~~ing sick weirdo, probably some disturbing little fantasy going on.
Aaaaand the fake attention seeking ‘AIDS scare’, yeah, that was fun.
To this day I still look back and think ‘WTF’?, and obviously, ‘thankyoubabyjesus’. Yah, dodged that one. Funny thing was, she was from a pretty wealthy family, though she sounds about as classy as a gangbang in a graveyard. Now that I type this all out for the first time ever, it seems even more crazy than I though it was. The hell was I thinking??!! Gah! Betrayed by my own penis. Never, ever, ever again. Ever.
We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda
Like a marriage… AVOID BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS.
I agree! Solo is the only way to fly. I’ve tried it both ways (business partnerships, not marriage).
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Spot on Papermaker. Especially about today’s western woman. Most if not all have ZERO concept of the importance of family. Their lives revolve around one upping each other – the house, the car, the kids, the kids sports, honor clubs, etc. They define their success by how far ahead of the curve they have run. It is a one sided business deal to them. And they know they are in control. You are just the “silent” partner – without any voting strength. Why would any man commit himself to this? I will tell you why – because I was that man. For the same reasons we celebrate holidays, dress a certain way, observe bulls~~~ holidays. Its always been that way. Last time I checked, you needed only a few things to survive. Water, food and depending on the climate, some sort of clothing/shelter. Anything else is an accessory. Marriage included. It is a financial relationship and nothing more. If you are religious (and I am NOT) – then it takes on a different meaning. But as for secular marriage – it is a scam and men are starting to wake up. Marriage today is a Casino. The “House” (aka “bride”) is programmed to win – no matter what. You may pull the slot machine and occasionally get some “coin” spit out or spin the roulette wheel and draw the right number a few times – but in the end – HOUSE WINS – YOU LOOSE. Period. Always. End of story.
My body is littered with bullets that I took head on. Still chewing on them and spitting them out.
Still managed to miss quite a few though.
Had a few of the “I can’t get pregnant because I am infertile” girls.
One of them had a kid a few years later. More than likely all, didn’t follow up with the others.Quite a few of the sex buffet girls, chasing commitment tactic.
Some are more convincing than others, but always show their true colors by branching on at a whore’s pace instead of giving a s~~~ about what a guy thinks a comfortable pace is.A couple of crazy, “I can’t live without you” after only a week or two girls.
When their tears were rolling, it was quite convincing. But after realizing that there wasn’t even a reason for the drama, common sense overrode ego for the logical conclusion…she is bat s~~~ crazy.One was all of the above three, a tripple threat. And was gorgeous to boot. Experience had taught me to get out quick by that point.
But the one that got me was the damsel in ditress behind a machine gun bunker postion. Took me a long while to get close enough to see that she was the one firing the bullets at me. She still has plenty of ammunition. But am gladly getting beyond her range of fire.
Will be out of the tenches of the front lines for good before giving thanks for thanksgiving.
But may wonder along the flanks every once in a while, always keeping an exit strategy or three.
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